Something I'm struggling with...

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  1. wyogirl

    wyogirl Oh crop!

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    OK... I realize that there is an easy answer here, but I'm struggling none the less. With landscape photos in particular but sometimes others... this is a long description of my problem...

    1. I see a shot and I set up for it.
    2. I frame it in the viewfinder and its perfect
    3. I edit it and am happy enough with the results that I want to print it
    4. The majority of popular print sizes (and frame options) requre cropping my image.
    5. I DO NOT WANT MY IMAGE CROPPED

    So I guess, what are some tips to help me frame something in camera with specific print sizes in mind?
    I shoot with a 7dmkii which I think has 100% viewfinder coverage.

    Here are two shots that I am particularly wanting to print, but I'm getting frustrated with my cropping options:
    [​IMG]Mountain Reflection at Dawn by Amanda McClure, on Flickr

    [​IMG]Sunrise Barn by Amanda McClure, on Flickr


     
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    Derrel Mr. Rain Cloud

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    The "problem" is one that was created long, long, long ago. Today's most popular cameras shoot images in a 3:2 aspect ratio, based off of the old 135 film's image size standard, that of a frame that measures 24mm x 36mm, give or take a half millimeter or less per side. Popular print sizes however, like 8 x 10 inches, or 16 x 20 inches, are the wrong aspect ratio for an image that was originally composed and then shot with a camera that captures using a 3:2 aspect ratio. When printing from 35mm negatives, the once popular 11 x 14 inch enlargement wasted a positively obscene amount of the left and right margins or a horizontally-composed image!

    The real issue is that the 3:2 aspect ratio camera's images do not match many common, popular print sizes! So...you might have to start printing images with custom sizes, and have custom-sized mattes made, or make them yourself.
     
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    SCraig Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Or shoot wide enough to leave room for cropping.
     
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    john.margetts No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    If you do not want to crop your pictures, crop the paper. I cut a slther off the long side of A format papers to make the print 200 mm by 300 mm. If you cannot get A format paper where you are, large margins will sort it out for you.

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    Print 8x12.
     
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    I bought a print that was 8 x 12 and had to rebuild an 8 x 14 frame to fit it.

    I thought briefly about going into the custom framing business. :biggrin-93:
     
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    The_Traveler Completely Counter-dependent Supporting Member

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    Lots of people sell both mats and frames that are in the 2:3 aspect ratio.
    That ratio works quite well in landscape for landscapes but not so well, imo, for portrait aspect.



    For example.
    upload_2015-12-4_17-41-1.png
     
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    Set the aspect ratio on your camera to the print size. Not sure if your 7dmkii aspect ratio can be changed. I have both S700 and X-T1. Not sure which one but one of it is customisable

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    D700. Sorry for the typo

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  10. wyogirl

    wyogirl Oh crop!

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    this is where I struggle.... I mean if I could get an overlay inside the viewfinder I could do this more effectivly but I cant' seem to judge this properly on my own.
     
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    wyogirl Oh crop!

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    So, I figured out that I can shoot 4:3 on my camera but now I'm curious as to how exactly that works... Like if I shoot in 4:3 but RAW... is the "cropped" portion's information still there to recover if I wanted to? (like when shooting RAW but black and white, the color info is still there) I mean its not like the sensor size changed.
     
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    That's your native aspect ratio; you want to be able to shoot 4:5 (for 8x10). On my cameras, there's a menu-selectable overlay that appears in the viewfinder to indicate a 4:5 ratio.
     

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