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Something equivalent to driving full speed in a dodge viper without insurance would be borrowing a 1Dmk4 and taking underwater photos with it without an underwater housing.

Not really. You can drive without insurance, but you cannot take pictures underwater without underwater housing. lol
Borrowing a camera with no insurance is like driving a car with no insurance. My example is more accurate than yours lol.

No, it isn't. Coupled with the fact that you put "lol" after every statement you make. In turn negating your statements and making you look like an imbecile.
 
o hey tyler said:
No, it isn't. Coupled with the fact that you put "lol" after every statement you make. In turn negating your statements and making you look like an imbecile.
Oh it's not? How? Explain it then. lol

"lol" has nothing to do with you. Why are you keep complaining about about simple little things? What a cry baby lol..
 
unpopular said:
So then, it's compensated in analog gain rather than the "right way", by exposure. Essentially instead of shooting at ISO 800, you're really at 1064. Instead of 400, you're really at 532.

And that's if it's just 1/3 stop.

I could deal with 1/3-1/2 stop less light if compensation was being done optically. It would have been pretty cool if you could choose how you wanted it compensated (can you?). But man. That kind of blows.

I'll just wait for the 7.

Sony patented a vertical photodiode with greater light gathering ability. The ISO 400,800, are still the measurement.
 
Oh, and you use a handheld meter to compensate for 1/3 of an f stop. :lmao:

skieur

I think you guys need to take a step back, Skier has been a professional photographer for over 30-50-70 years now and you guys keep questioning him... every thread he is on goes on for about twenty pages because simply put.. NO ONE listens to Skier, when he is an experienced PRO who values his Sony products. This one is currently 11 pages, ONLY 9 pages to go before you get the message Skier is correct!

Well, you got everything else wrong, why should I not be surprised that you cannot even get my username correct either. LEARN TO READ AND SPELL.

skieur

Sorry IMO, you are a SKIER as all your posts go down a sharp and slippery slope in to 'skieur' land.
 
o hey tyler said:
No, it isn't. Coupled with the fact that you put "lol" after every statement you make. In turn negating your statements and making you look like an imbecile.
Oh it's not? How? Explain it then. lol

"lol" has nothing to do with you. Why are you keep complaining about about simple little things? What a cry baby lol..

I am sorry, I can't take you seriously. Not that I ever could...

From UrbanDictionary:


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The theory that the internet phrase lol,meaning "laugh out loud", can be placed at any part in any sentence and make said sentence lose all credibilty and seriousness.
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Me: Will you marry me? Lol.

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o hey tyler said:
I am sorry, I can't take you seriously. Not that I ever could...

From UrbanDictionary:


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The theory that the internet phrase lol ,meaning "laugh out loud", can be placed at any part in any sentence and make said sentence lose all credibilty and seriousness.
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Doc: We need to operate on your colon lol, you have cancer.

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Jesus: Take this all of you and eat it, it is my body, lol.

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Me: Will you marry me? Lol.


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"lol" I love putting that when replying to you. Because you are a mad fanboy who got nothing to do but to troll around the thread. I am laughing at you son. Get a clue. Just taste your own medicine lol lol lol lol!!!
 
I think you guys need to take a step back, Skier has been a professional photographer for over 30-50-70 years now and you guys keep questioning him... every thread he is on goes on for about twenty pages because simply put.. NO ONE listens to Skier, when he is an experienced PRO who values his Sony products. This one is currently 11 pages, ONLY 9 pages to go before you get the message Skier is correct!

Well, you got everything else wrong, why should I not be surprised that you cannot even get my username correct either. LEARN TO READ AND SPELL.

skieur

Sorry IMO, you are a SKIER as all your posts go down a sharp and slippery slope in to 'skieur' land.

Non, je suis un skieur et te don bein gougoune! :lol:

skieur
 
o hey tyler said:
I am sorry, I can't take you seriously. Not that I ever could...

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"lol" I love putting that when replying to you. Because you are a mad fanboy who got nothing to do but to troll around the thread. I am laughing at you son. Get a clue. Just taste your own medicine lol lol lol lol!!!

O hey tyler, I wouldn't worry about this 'CREATURE'. I mean look at his profile photo, he isn't even Human?? :lol:
 
unpopular said:
So then, it's compensated in analog gain rather than the "right way", by exposure. Essentially instead of shooting at ISO 800, you're really at 1064. Instead of 400, you're really at 532.

And that's if it's just 1/3 stop.

I could deal with 1/3-1/2 stop less light if compensation was being done optically. It would have been pretty cool if you could choose how you wanted it compensated (can you?). But man. That kind of blows.

I'll just wait for the 7.

Sony patented a vertical photodiode with greater light gathering ability. The ISO 400,800, are still the measurement.

Can you supply me with a link regarding this? Are you saying that the sensor's native ISO is 400,800? Because you can literally increase ISO however far you want, but even images produced from the greatest sensor ever made will eventually look like TV snow.
 
unpopular said:
Can you supply me with a link regarding this? Are you saying that the sensor's native ISO is 400,800? Because you can literally increase ISO however far you want, but even images produced from the greatest sensor ever made will eventually look like TV snow.

I read that couple months ago. I couldn't find the link. You can try looking it up. I can't keep babysitting you. Haha!
What i was trying to say is if your ISO is 400, it is not going to be anything other than 400.
 
Nikon_Josh said:
O hey tyler, I wouldn't worry about this 'CREATURE'. I mean look at his profile photo, he isn't even Human?? :lol:

What a nonsense corny joke :D
 
unpopular said:
Can you supply me with a link regarding this? Are you saying that the sensor's native ISO is 400,800? Because you can literally increase ISO however far you want, but even images produced from the greatest sensor ever made will eventually look like TV snow.

I read that couple months ago. I couldn't find the link. You can try looking it up. I can't keep babysitting you. Haha!
What i was trying to say is if your ISO is 400, it is not going to be anything other than 400.

I did look, and I found nothing. You don't need to be condescending about it.

And yes. You're right, if your ISO is 400 it's going to be 400 because ISO is arbitrarily determined by system sensitivity. However, because ISO in digital cameras is adjusted by analog gain, and because it appears that the SLT series compensates for the loss resulting from the pellicle, you can estimate the equivalent ISO if the mirror were not there within that particlaur system. Because I am arguing that the technology is the problem, and not comparing it against other cameras it's a valid point.

Sony should have compensated this loss optically rather than electronically, or given the operator that option.
 
unpopular said:
Can you supply me with a link regarding this? Are you saying that the sensor's native ISO is 400,800? Because you can literally increase ISO however far you want, but even images produced from the greatest sensor ever made will eventually look like TV snow.

I read that couple months ago. I couldn't find the link. You can try looking it up. I can't keep babysitting you. Haha!
What i was trying to say is if your ISO is 400, it is not going to be anything other than 400.

So far you've had a lot of so called "factual" information (according to you) with no means to back it up. It shouldn't take long to do a google search if you'd read the article once and know exactly what it pertains to.
 
Canon 7D vs Sony SLT A77

A77 destroy the Canon 7D

Canon 7D vs Sony A77 – Camera Comparison

A77 destroy the Canon 7D again

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Studio Shot sample of a77 vs the Canon 7D. A77 once again destroy the 7D :)

You can call the a77 "suck, bad camera, noisy," etc. you cannot change the fact that it is better than most camera on the market.

Ummm, yeah. I don't think destroy is the right word. Most of the features that push the A77 ahead in those "comparisons" are options that pros do not use. You know, those "toy" features.

Also its sad when someone says this camera is better than most on the current market, considering this is one of sony's newer releases, and everyone keeps comparing it to bodies who's successors are on the way. Sad.

Not knocking sony, just the fanboy's.
 
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