sony a77

[argieramos]

So far you've had a lot of so called "factual" information (according to you) with no means to back it up. It shouldn't take long to do a google search if you'd read the article once and know exactly what it pertains to.

A lot of "factual" information? Your bff was asking for a link, it is not my fault that the link is buried. Whatever you find on google today will not always be as easy to find in the future. Have you ever used the google search before. That is why I told your bff to look harder. Why would I do that for him?
When I said that a77 destroy the the canon's top aps-c camera, I provided you links to prove my claim. That's not a factual information.

 

[unpopular]

I have never ever had a hard time finding an article I've once read - provided it was actually published and not just some doughhead making stuff up.

Speaking of which, the only reference I've found to this patent specifically was this thread.

 

[unpopular]

Wait, are you talking about back-illuminated cmos??

 

[argieramos]

I did look, and I found nothing. You don't need to be condescending about it.

And yes. You're right, if your ISO is 400 it's going to be 400 because ISO is arbitrarily determined by system sensitivity. However, because ISO in digital cameras is adjusted by analog gain, and because it appears that the SLT series compensates for the loss resulting from the pellicle, you can estimate the equivalent ISO if the mirror were not there within that particlaur system. Because I am arguing that the technology is the problem, and not comparing it against other cameras it's a valid point.

Sony should have compensated this loss optically rather than electronically, or given the operator that option.

I don't disagree that there is a drawback with the SLT technology, but a couple IQ points drop is a small price to pay consider what you will achieve in return.
Sony has something in the sensor to help compensates for that lost light. It may not as good as not loosing any light at all, but it's helping. When you compare the NEX-7 and a77 that both uses the same sensor, DXoMark overall IQ lab test result for the NEX-7 is 81, a77 is 78. It's not a lot considering the IQ test result of the Canon 7D is 66. Imagingresource picture tests showing the superiority of the a77 to 7D in terms of IQ with about the same noise level.
I know you are just looking for flaws of the SLT technology because you are a hater. But a camera that performs faster and better than most camera on the market because of this technology, who are you to complain?

 

[jake337]

So far you've had a lot of so called "factual" information (according to you) with no means to back it up. It shouldn't take long to do a google search if you'd read the article once and know exactly what it pertains to.

A lot of "factual" information? Your bff was asking for a link, it is not my fault that the link is buried. Whatever you find on google today will not always be as easy to find in the future. Have you ever used the google search before. That is why I told your bff to look harder. Why would I do that for him?
When I said that a77 destroy the the canon's top aps-c camera, I provided you links to prove my claim. That's not a factual information.

Again, you used the term destroy, hardly fitting. Although the links you provide may have shown some factual information, how they derived at there final conclusion was based on features many professionals may, or may not ever use,



Again, not bashing sony. Just the fanboys.

 

[Derrel]

Man...I thought the Canon versus Nikon threads were drama-filled....

This Sony A77 versus A Real Camera thread is like the second one in two weeks...lots of exciting fanboy claims being bandied back and forth, back and forth!!

I think I'm going to have some vinyl bumper stickers made up, "Sony A77 versus A Real Camera", and sell them for $6 a pop!

 

[unpopular]

I am skeptical of the SLT, though I am also a Sony user. So this isn't about brand.

My criticism is not really about how the SLT camera compares against other cameras, but rather the technology itself - what it offers verses what you get back. There are advantages to the SLT, namely in focus performance. Video aside (this is a photography forum), how often though is the continuous focus really needed?

If continuous focus isn't that useful, then all you have is a boost in analog gain, which isn't very useful at all.

Other features like sweep pano are neat, but wholly unnecessary and are returned as 8-bit jpegs.

 

[argieramos]

I am skeptical of the SLT, though I am also a Sony user. So this isn't about brand.

My criticism is not really about how the SLT camera compares against other cameras, but rather the technology itself - what it offers verses what you get back. There are advantages to the SLT, namely in focus performance. Video aside (this is a photography forum), how often though is the continuous focus really needed?

If continuous focus isn't that useful, then all you have is a boost in analog gain, which isn't very useful at all.

Other features like sweep pano are neat, but wholly unnecessary and are returned as 8-bit jpegs.

Let me ask you first what camera are you using?

 

[unpopular]

a350. I plan to upgrade to the NEX 7 or that weird full frame hybrid thing they are talking about.

 

[argieramos]

a350. I plan to upgrade to the NEX 7 or that weird full frame hybrid thing they are talking about.

Another question. Are you happy with the a350?

 

[unpopular]

Relatively. The biggest problem I have is that I cannot use my whole selection of manual focus lenses without an infinity-corrected adapter.

It's a bit noisy at above ISO 400. What exactly is your point?

 

[Nikon_Josh]

Man...I thought the Canon versus Nikon threads were drama-filled....

This Sony A77 versus A Real Camera thread is like the second one in two weeks...lots of exciting fanboy claims being bandied back and forth, back and forth!!

I think I'm going to have some vinyl bumper stickers made up, "Sony A77 versus A Real Camera", and sell them for $6 a pop!

HAHAHAHA! :lmao: Ah Derrel, you really are the best!!! Skieur and ArgieRamos will appreciate this.

 

[LightSpeed]

PENTAX K5 BLOWS THE A77 AWAY.
PENTAX RULES!

 

[gsgary]

PENTAX K5 BLOWS THE A77 AWAY.
PENTAX RULES!

No way my Zorki 4 with some tri-x will blow it out of the water

 

[skieur]

Man...I thought the Canon versus Nikon threads were drama-filled....

This Sony A77 versus A Real Camera thread is like the second one in two weeks...lots of exciting fanboy claims being bandied back and forth, back and forth!!

I think I'm going to have some vinyl bumper stickers made up, "Sony A77 versus A Real Camera", and sell them for $6 a pop!

My bumper sticker would read: "Wealth (not using a "real camera") vs Poverty using a Canon or Nikon. :lmao:

skieur