sony a77

[ConradM]

Just read my first reveiw of the A77 in a pro UK mag can't see any pro sports shooters buying it write speads slow so you struggle to get 12fps and you can only use it in AE (auto exposure) mode set, so the only way to control exposure is by ISO or exposure compensation, another thing the was concerning was the tester would not use it over ISO400 and didn't consider it suitable for low-light work

Sounds like a biased tester.

 

[gsgary]

Just read my first reveiw of the A77 in a pro UK mag can't see any pro sports shooters buying it write speads slow so you struggle to get 12fps and you can only use it in AE (auto exposure) mode set, so the only way to control exposure is by ISO or exposure compensation, another thing the was concerning was the tester would not use it over ISO400 and didn't consider it suitable for low-light work

Sounds like a biased tester.

No it is one of the top UK mags been going for decades, what i didn't know untill i read the reveiw was that it will only shoot 12Fps (and that is a stretch even with fast cards) in Auto if you shoot sports in manual like me it only shoots 8fps which is not the way i shoot anyway

 

[skieur]

From what I read the ISO is the one thing that the canon 7d still beat the a77 at. This is crucial for night photography at concerts. of course 1600 is okay but i really wanted to see sony come out with something that could do 3200 or 6400 with less noise.

Actually if you look at the Canon 7D image side by side with the A77 image on www.imaging-resource.com you will see a slightly better image from the A77 at 6400, although both the Canon 7D and Sony A77 show noise, the random noise from the Canon that shows up as incorrect coloured pixels in the grain is more pronounced in the 7D.

skieur

 

[skieur]

Just read my first reveiw of the A77 in a pro UK mag can't see any pro sports shooters buying it write speads slow so you struggle to get 12fps and you can only use it in AE (auto exposure) mode set, so the only way to control exposure is by ISO or exposure compensation, another thing the was concerning was the tester would not use it over ISO400 and didn't consider it suitable for low-light work

Sounds like a biased tester.

No it is one of the top UK mags been going for decades, what i didn't know untill i read the reveiw was that it will only shoot 12Fps (and that is a stretch even with fast cards) in Auto if you shoot sports in manual like me it only shoots 8fps which is not the way i shoot anyway

Ah, NO other camera shoots faster than the Sony A77 in 24 megapixel full resolution, even the Canon or Nikon, so speed is not an issue.

skieur

 

[skieur]

Sony Alpha SLT-A77 Camera Operation - Hands-On Preview

"The Sony A77's EVF does an excellent job of gaining-up when the light gets dim. There's no free lunch, in that the trade-offs are that the image gets a bit grainy looking, and the refresh rate drops dramatically, but the net result is I was much more able to see what I was shooting after dark with the A77 than I've ever been with any optical-viewfinder camera I've used in the past."

I still wouldn't buy one for studio use

I would not buy a Nikon or Canon for studio use either. I would buy or rent a medium format Red Epic.

skieur

 

[skieur]

If it is like the A55 there may be trouble using it when it gets dark

Different camera. Brighter, more contrast, higher resolution viewfinder, for example.

skieur

 

[skieur]

i was thinking about getting one... but not sure i have read about it the pros the cons but i want some more people views on it
not trying to get professional just mainly pictures for concerts and videos of them and

Sony has the best video with smooth 60 frames per second, full HD, and the only camera with fast phase detection autofocus during video shooting.

skieur

 

[gsgary]

From what I read the ISO is the one thing that the canon 7d still beat the a77 at. This is crucial for night photography at concerts. of course 1600 is okay but i really wanted to see sony come out with something that could do 3200 or 6400 with less noise.

Actually if you look at the Canon 7D image side by side with the A77 image on www.imaging-resource.com you will see a slightly better image from the A77 at 6400, although both the Canon 7D and Sony A77 show noise, the random noise from the Canon that shows up as incorrect coloured pixels in the grain is more pronounced in the 7D.

skieur

The reveiw i read said the opposite and the Sony had noise in the lowest ISO's that had to be remove, tracking focus was inconsistant and stuggled to keep up with fast moving action, and as soon as you fire off a 12frame burst it is imposible to track the subject it also said images shot at ISO6400 or 12800 were unusable, they said images were good if there was good light
There is now way this is good enough for a sports camera

 

[skieur]

From what I read the ISO is the one thing that the canon 7d still beat the a77 at. This is crucial for night photography at concerts. of course 1600 is okay but i really wanted to see sony come out with something that could do 3200 or 6400 with less noise.

Actually if you look at the Canon 7D image side by side with the A77 image on www.imaging-resource.com you will see a slightly better image from the A77 at 6400, although both the Canon 7D and Sony A77 show noise, the random noise from the Canon that shows up as incorrect coloured pixels in the grain is more pronounced in the 7D.

skieur

The reveiw i read said the opposite and the Sony had noise in the lowest ISO's that had to be remove, tracking focus was inconsistant and stuggled to keep up with fast moving action, and as soon as you fire off a 12frame burst it is imposible to track the subject it also said images shot at ISO6400 or 12800 were unusable, they said images were good if there was good light
There is now way this is good enough for a sports camera

Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page This is the image comparometer. Choose Canon 7D on the left menu and Sony A77 on the right menu. Double click and then move down to the photo of the girl in green at ISO 6400 in zoom mode. Look at the text on the back of the book that she is reading and the noise at the top of the book. The results are as I indicated above. The lab results for noise at Popular Photography magazine indicated very low noise at low ISOs for Sony A77 and I would trust lab results more than review opinions. I should also note that these tests were not even done with fast frame noise reduction mode on which further reduces noise reduction while maintaining the high resolution and quality.

I would also point out that the Sony A77 is the ONLY camera with even 8 fps or faster at the full resolution of 24 megapixels, so complaints about 12 fps are a bit of a stretch. Moreover the viewfinder lag is apparently no greater than 1/10 of a second which is still faster than 5fps cameras or fast fps cameras at much lower resolution.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS_7D-vs-Sony-A77

skieur

 

[gsgary]

Actually if you look at the Canon 7D image side by side with the A77 image on www.imaging-resource.com you will see a slightly better image from the A77 at 6400, although both the Canon 7D and Sony A77 show noise, the random noise from the Canon that shows up as incorrect coloured pixels in the grain is more pronounced in the 7D.

skieur

The reveiw i read said the opposite and the Sony had noise in the lowest ISO's that had to be remove, tracking focus was inconsistant and stuggled to keep up with fast moving action, and as soon as you fire off a 12frame burst it is imposible to track the subject it also said images shot at ISO6400 or 12800 were unusable, they said images were good if there was good light
There is now way this is good enough for a sports camera

Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page This is the image comparometer. Choose Canon 7D on the left menu and Sony A77 on the right menu. Double click and then move down to the photo of the girl in green at ISO 6400 in zoom mode. Look at the text on the back of the book that she is reading and the noise at the top of the book. The results are as I indicated above. The lab results for noise at Popular Photography magazine indicated very low noise at low ISOs for Sony A77 and I would trust lab results more than review opinions. I should also note that these tests were not even done with fast frame noise reduction mode on which further reduces noise reduction while maintaining the high resolution and quality.

I would also point out that the Sony A77 is the ONLY camera with even 8 fps or faster at the full resolution of 24 megapixels, so complaints about 12 fps are a bit of a stretch. Moreover the viewfinder lag is apparently no greater than 1/10 of a second which is still faster than 5fps cameras or fast fps cameras at much lower resolution.

Canon 7D vs Sony SLT A77

skieur

There is no way any sports photographer will buy the A77, I rang a friend at a shop and was able to tried one this afternoon to find out and i was not impressed so it is a big fail on Sony's part

 

[skieur]

The reveiw i read said the opposite and the Sony had noise in the lowest ISO's that had to be remove, tracking focus was inconsistant and stuggled to keep up with fast moving action, and as soon as you fire off a 12frame burst it is imposible to track the subject it also said images shot at ISO6400 or 12800 were unusable, they said images were good if there was good light
There is now way this is good enough for a sports camera

Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page This is the image comparometer. Choose Canon 7D on the left menu and Sony A77 on the right menu. Double click and then move down to the photo of the girl in green at ISO 6400 in zoom mode. Look at the text on the back of the book that she is reading and the noise at the top of the book. The results are as I indicated above. The lab results for noise at Popular Photography magazine indicated very low noise at low ISOs for Sony A77 and I would trust lab results more than review opinions. I should also note that these tests were not even done with fast frame noise reduction mode on which further reduces noise reduction while maintaining the high resolution and quality.

I would also point out that the Sony A77 is the ONLY camera with even 8 fps or faster at the full resolution of 24 megapixels, so complaints about 12 fps are a bit of a stretch. Moreover the viewfinder lag is apparently no greater than 1/10 of a second which is still faster than 5fps cameras or fast fps cameras at much lower resolution.

Canon 7D vs Sony SLT A77

skieur

There is no way any sports photographer will buy the A77, I rang a friend at a shop and was able to tried one this afternoon to find out and i was not impressed so it is a big fail on Sony's part

Well, the statement above is TOO SHORT, to be believable. If you really thoroughly tried it out, you would be able to tell us in detail your impressions of perceived weaknesses and provide sample shots.

You have not even commented on the shots I directed you to, above, so you did not look at them either......or perhaps you did and they proved what I have been saying all along.

skieur

 

[ConradM]

The reveiw i read said the opposite and the Sony had noise in the lowest ISO's that had to be remove, tracking focus was inconsistant and stuggled to keep up with fast moving action, and as soon as you fire off a 12frame burst it is imposible to track the subject it also said images shot at ISO6400 or 12800 were unusable, they said images were good if there was good light
There is now way this is good enough for a sports camera

Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page This is the image comparometer. Choose Canon 7D on the left menu and Sony A77 on the right menu. Double click and then move down to the photo of the girl in green at ISO 6400 in zoom mode. Look at the text on the back of the book that she is reading and the noise at the top of the book. The results are as I indicated above. The lab results for noise at Popular Photography magazine indicated very low noise at low ISOs for Sony A77 and I would trust lab results more than review opinions. I should also note that these tests were not even done with fast frame noise reduction mode on which further reduces noise reduction while maintaining the high resolution and quality.

I would also point out that the Sony A77 is the ONLY camera with even 8 fps or faster at the full resolution of 24 megapixels, so complaints about 12 fps are a bit of a stretch. Moreover the viewfinder lag is apparently no greater than 1/10 of a second which is still faster than 5fps cameras or fast fps cameras at much lower resolution.

Canon 7D vs Sony SLT A77

skieur

There is no way any sports photographer will buy the A77, I rang a friend at a shop and was able to tried one this afternoon to find out and i was not impressed so it is a big fail on Sony's part

Now you're just blatantly showing your hate for Sony. Maybe you should just stop posting in this section.

 

[gsgary]

Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page This is the image comparometer. Choose Canon 7D on the left menu and Sony A77 on the right menu. Double click and then move down to the photo of the girl in green at ISO 6400 in zoom mode. Look at the text on the back of the book that she is reading and the noise at the top of the book. The results are as I indicated above. The lab results for noise at Popular Photography magazine indicated very low noise at low ISOs for Sony A77 and I would trust lab results more than review opinions. I should also note that these tests were not even done with fast frame noise reduction mode on which further reduces noise reduction while maintaining the high resolution and quality.

I would also point out that the Sony A77 is the ONLY camera with even 8 fps or faster at the full resolution of 24 megapixels, so complaints about 12 fps are a bit of a stretch. Moreover the viewfinder lag is apparently no greater than 1/10 of a second which is still faster than 5fps cameras or fast fps cameras at much lower resolution.

Canon 7D vs Sony SLT A77

skieur

There is no way any sports photographer will buy the A77, I rang a friend at a shop and was able to tried one this afternoon to find out and i was not impressed so it is a big fail on Sony's part

Now you're just blatantly showing your hate for Sony. Maybe you should just stop posting in this section.

i don't hate them, the A900 was a good camera

 

[Crollo]

Sony Alpha SLT-A77 Camera Operation - Hands-On Preview

"The Sony A77's EVF does an excellent job of gaining-up when the light gets dim. There's no free lunch, in that the trade-offs are that the image gets a bit grainy looking, and the refresh rate drops dramatically, but the net result is I was much more able to see what I was shooting after dark with the A77 than I've ever been with any optical-viewfinder camera I've used in the past."

I still wouldn't buy one for studio use

For serious studio use, rent a Red One, Epic Red, or Leica S9. Why consider anything else?

skieur

You're recommending somebody use a digital cinema video camera for studio photography use?

You clearly don't know what you're talking about if you seriously just called a red one or a red epic a medium format camera. The red sensor is super35 and it isn't even as large as a full frame photography sensor.
Why they hell would you use a video camera with a small sensor for studio photography over a photography camera with a larger sensor designed for photography?

 

[unpopular]

I knew it would only be a matter of time until Skieur came here and took a giant poo on this thread also.

OP: unless you have some specific need toe very fast AF in video or continuous drive mode, then there is no reason to get tha a77 over a similar traditional dslr or the NEX 5 or 7. Despite skieur's bizarre enthusiasm, the SLT series' drawbacks does not warrant it's advantages.