sony a77

[unpopular]

I still wouldn't buy one for studio use

For serious studio use, rent a Red One, Epic Red, or Leica S9. Why consider anything else?skieur

You're recommending somebody use a digital cinema video camera for studio photography use?

And he said I was ignorant of technology.

Skieur, can you please just admit you have no idea what you're talking about and at this point you're just fighting for your ego.

 

[Nikon_Josh]

From what I read the ISO is the one thing that the canon 7d still beat the a77 at. This is crucial for night photography at concerts. of course 1600 is okay but i really wanted to see sony come out with something that could do 3200 or 6400 with less noise.

Actually if you look at the Canon 7D image side by side with the A77 image on www.imaging-resource.com you will see a slightly better image from the A77 at 6400, although both the Canon 7D and Sony A77 show noise, the random noise from the Canon that shows up as incorrect coloured pixels in the grain is more pronounced in the 7D.

skieur

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... YOU HAVE STARTED HIM OFF AGAIN! JUST AS I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL OVER!

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I think we at least know what Skieur does with his spare time, he sits going through www.imaging-resource.com again and again and again and well again! It really is camera porn all the way for him.

 

[skieur]

I still wouldn't buy one for studio use

For serious studio use, rent a Red One, Epic Red, or Leica S9. Why consider anything else?

skieur

You're recommending somebody use a digital cinema video camera for studio photography use?

You clearly don't know what you're talking about if you seriously just called a red one or a red epic a medium format camera. The red sensor is super35 and it isn't even as large as a full frame photography sensor.
Why they hell would you use a video camera with a small sensor for studio photography over a photography camera with a larger sensor designed for photography?

Red One or Red Epic are modular cameras that can shoot 35mm, medium format and large format digital depending on the installed module. Sensors start at 2/3 of an inch and go up to 6 by 17 CENTimeters and over 200 megapixels.

skieur

 

[skieur]

For serious studio use, rent a Red One, Epic Red, or Leica S9. Why consider anything else?skieur

You're recommending somebody use a digital cinema video camera for studio photography use?

And he said I was ignorant of technology.

Skieur, can you please just admit you have no idea what you're talking about and at this point you're just fighting for your ego.

Ah, you don't read very thoroughly, Red is a modular system camera. With the appropriate module it can shoot 35mm, medium format or large format digital still photos.

skieur

 

[skieur]

From what I read the ISO is the one thing that the canon 7d still beat the a77 at. This is crucial for night photography at concerts. of course 1600 is okay but i really wanted to see sony come out with something that could do 3200 or 6400 with less noise.

Actually if you look at the Canon 7D image side by side with the A77 image on www.imaging-resource.com you will see a slightly better image from the A77 at 6400, although both the Canon 7D and Sony A77 show noise, the random noise from the Canon that shows up as incorrect coloured pixels in the grain is more pronounced in the 7D.

skieur

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... YOU HAVE STARTED HIM OFF AGAIN! JUST AS I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL OVER!

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I think we at least know what Skieur does with his spare time, he sits going through www.imaging-resource.com again and again and again and well again! It really is camera porn all the way for him.

Interesting the direction your posts take, when I prove my point.

skieur

 

[skieur]

For serious studio use, rent a Red One, Epic Red, or Leica S9. Why consider anything else?skieur

You're recommending somebody use a digital cinema video camera for studio photography use?

And he said I was ignorant of technology.

Skieur, can you please just admit you have no idea what you're talking about and at this point you're just fighting for your ego.

Why don't you just admit that I have proved my point.

skieur

 

[unpopular]

^^ I am not even sure where to begin with this.

The red is not designed to be a still camera, it's a cinema camera. It does great at what it's designed for, but it is not designed for studio use. It does not have a flash sync, or even single frame exposure. Maybe there is a traditional single frame exposure module?

But this is totally beside the point. You don't need a $30k+ to shoot in the studio. That's just ridiculous.

 

[gsgary]

^^ I am not even sure where to begin with this.

The red is not designed to be a still camera, it's a cinema camera. It does great at what it's designed for, but it is not designed for studio use. It does not have a flash sync, or even single frame exposure. Maybe there is a traditional single frame exposure module?

But this is totally beside the point. You don't need a $30k+ to shoot in the studio. That's just ridiculous.

I just use my Mamiya C330 if i want big prints

 

[unpopular]

^ you do NOT use a $600 camera from the 1960's!

 

[gsgary]

^ you do NOT use a $600 camera from the 1960's!

I do but it is not that old they were made in 70's to mid 90's and an old zorki 4 plus quite a few digital

 

[o hey tyler]

From what I read the ISO is the one thing that the canon 7d still beat the a77 at. This is crucial for night photography at concerts. of course 1600 is okay but i really wanted to see sony come out with something that could do 3200 or 6400 with less noise.

Actually if you look at the Canon 7D image side by side with the A77 image on www.imaging-resource.com you will see a slightly better image from the A77 at 6400, although both the Canon 7D and Sony A77 show noise, the random noise from the Canon that shows up as incorrect coloured pixels in the grain is more pronounced in the 7D.

skieur

This is coming from the same person who thought that the A77 outperformed the 5D2 at ISO 1600.

What a joke.

 

[Derrel]

The A77 is great, but for professional use, no thanks.

Professionel fotograf i hele Danmark

"[h=3]Kamera liste[/h]

• Hasselblad H4D - 200MS - studie/location
• Phase One 645DF - IQ180 digital bagstykke - studie/location
• Canon EOS 5D Mark II - studie og location
• Canon EOS 1DX - sport og studio
• Nikon D3S - sport
• Nikon D3X - studie

 

[Crollo]

Red One or Red Epic are modular cameras that can shoot 35mm, medium format and large format digital depending on the installed module. Sensors start at 2/3 of an inch and go up to 6 by 17 CENTimeters and over 200 megapixels.

skieur

"The Red One has a 11.5 megapixelbayer pattern CMOS sensor. The sensor, called Mysterium measures 24.4 mm by 13.7 mm, and has 4,520 by 2,540 active pixels, though the camera only records a window of those pixels in normal operation. The sensor is about the surface area of a traditional Super 35 film frame, creating a similar angle of view and depth of field as the Super 35 film format. When shooting at 2k resolution the used sensor window is the same as Super 16 film. This allows the camera to be used with Super 16 lenses."
"The camera sensor, called Mysterium-X, is a 27.7 by 14.6 mm 13.8 (5120 by 2700 pixels) megapixel bayer patternCMOS 14 bit sensor which is rated at ISO 800 at daylight with a dynamic range of 13.5 stops. It has approximately the same surface area of a traditional Super 35 film frame masked to the 1.85:1 aspect ratio, creating a similar angle of view and depth of field as the Super 35 film format."

Funny how it says nothing about other sensors.
You know why you can't change the sensor? Because you can't put a large format sensor in a camera designed to hold a s35 sensor. It's not physically possible, and it's not technologically possible because it would overload the processor which was only designed to function with a s35 sensor.

 

[skieur]

^^ I am not even sure where to begin with this.

The red is not designed to be a still camera, it's a cinema camera. It does great at what it's designed for, but it is not designed for studio use. It does not have a flash sync, or even single frame exposure. Maybe there is a traditional single frame exposure module?

But this is totally beside the point. You don't need a $30k+ to shoot in the studio. That's just ridiculous.

Of course it is ridiculous,....but not everyone does LOW end stuff and the competition at the high end is rather cut-throat.

skieur

 

[skieur]

There is no way any sports photographer will buy the A77, I rang a friend at a shop and was able to tried one this afternoon to find out and i was not impressed so it is a big fail on Sony's part

Now you're just blatantly showing your hate for Sony. Maybe you should just stop posting in this section.

i don't hate them, the A900 was a good camera

So, wait for the A99 at 36 megapixels full frame, if that is your style.

skieur