sony a77

[unpopular]

^^ 1/2ev would be absolutely intolerable if true. 1/3ev is bad enough.

 

[ConradM]

How many times do you have to be told gsgary that your speed issue is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT, considering that NO OTHER CAMERA can shoot at even 8 frames per second at 24 megapixels.????

skieur

It's not irrelevant. What good is 24 megapixels if your missing shots waiting for the buffer to clear? Heck I would rather have the a700 5 fps than buffer issues.

If you have an a77, how many shots can you take at 8 fps before you fill the buffer? How long does the buffer take to clear?

I just read up on this and tested it on my A33. In Jpeg I can shoot up to ~20 frames before it'll slow down to 3 bursts. But it never actually stops for the buffer. So with my a33, I can easily take 5 - 10 shot bursts without ever having to wait for anything.

I'm not sure where you guys got that there was a "write time" wait.

 

[mjhoward]

How many times do you have to be told gsgary that your speed issue is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT, considering that NO OTHER CAMERA can shoot at even 8 frames per second at 24 megapixels.????

skieur

It's not irrelevant. What good is 24 megapixels if your missing shots waiting for the buffer to clear? Heck I would rather have the a700 5 fps than buffer issues.

If you have an a77, how many shots can you take at 8 fps before you fill the buffer? How long does the buffer take to clear?

I just read up on this and tested it on my A33. In Jpeg I can shoot up to ~20 frames before it'll slow down to 3 bursts. But it never actually stops for the buffer. So with my a33, I can easily take 5 - 10 shot bursts without ever having to wait for anything.

I'm not sure where you guys got that there was a "write time" wait.

Well you are at only half the resolution.

 

[ConradM]

It's not irrelevant. What good is 24 megapixels if your missing shots waiting for the buffer to clear? Heck I would rather have the a700 5 fps than buffer issues.

If you have an a77, how many shots can you take at 8 fps before you fill the buffer? How long does the buffer take to clear?

I just read up on this and tested it on my A33. In Jpeg I can shoot up to ~20 frames before it'll slow down to 3 bursts. But it never actually stops for the buffer. So with my a33, I can easily take 5 - 10 shot bursts without ever having to wait for anything.

I'm not sure where you guys got that there was a "write time" wait.

Well you are at only half the resolution.

Doesn't matter. I tried it in RAW too. There's still no write to card time. Just slow down in between frames.

 

[kassad]

I just read up on this and tested it on my A33. In Jpeg I can shoot up to ~20 frames before it'll slow down to 3 bursts. But it never actually stops for the buffer. So with my a33, I can easily take 5 - 10 shot bursts without ever having to wait for anything.

I'm not sure where you guys got that there was a "write time" wait.

Well you are at only half the resolution.

Doesn't matter. I tried it in RAW too. There's still no write to card time. Just slow down in between frames.

I appreciate you testing this on your testing this on your camera. The results your giving would be acceptable for me if they were on the a77. Even with the advertising specs ie 14 shot buffer the a77 is the worst of the enthusiast level cameras. Canon 7d 8fps 100+ shot buffer Nikon d300s 8fps @50 shot buffer.

One of the major problems of the a55 and a33 when they first came out was that after some one did a full burst in the high speed mode the camera completely locked up for several seconds while the buffer cleared. With the later firmware updates that problem was fixed. Now they throttle back the burst rate when the buffer is full.

I wish someone with a a77 would do this same test and post the results.

 

[argieramos]

The problem is that less light reaches the primary imaging sensor.

indeed, but look what you are gaining in return. Faster Liveview and Video Autofocus Speed, faster fps with uninterrupted AF, no mirror blur(for macro).. The result could be better without that fixed mirror inside (see the NEX-7), but the fact that a77 IQ is still better in terms of IQ than most SLR based on DXoMark test result. If you compare the sample shot of a77 and Canon 7D in imagingresource.com, they're both equal in terms of noise level, but a77 has better color, dynamic range and has more detail if you do a pixel peeping.

 

[argieramos]

Have you used one ? it had a fast card fitted,

SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC 95MB/sec and it works fine

 

[argieramos]

I appreciate you testing this on your testing this on your camera. The results your giving would be acceptable for me if they were on the a77. Even with the advertising specs ie 14 shot buffer the a77 is the worst of the enthusiast level cameras. Canon 7d 8fps 100+ shot buffer Nikon d300s 8fps @50 shot buffer.

One of the major problems of the a55 and a33 when they first came out was that after some one did a full burst in the high speed mode the camera completely locked up for several seconds while the buffer cleared. With the later firmware updates that problem was fixed. Now they throttle back the burst rate when the buffer is full.

I wish someone with a a77 would do this same test and post the results.

The a55 and a33 had that issue. They said the sensor overheats quickly.. But if you turn the IS off, you can shoot longer in full burst. The issue has been fixed in a35. When I rented my a77, I tried doing a full burst 12fps but for only like maybe 15-20 seconds and stopped. That's all I can tell bro. I just wanted to try out the 12fps but didn't want to break my rented camera.

 

[belial]

indeed, but look what you are gaining in return. Faster Liveview and Video Autofocus Speed, faster fps with uninterrupted AF, no mirror blur(for macro).. The result could be better without that fixed mirror inside (see the NEX-7), but the fact that a77 IQ is still better in terms of IQ than most SLR based on DXoMark test result. If you compare the sample shot of a77 and Canon 7D in imagingresource.com, they're both equal in terms of noise level, but a77 has better color, dynamic range and has more detail if you do a pixel peeping.

Faster video focus doesn't exactly matter in a still camera

 

[belial]

The main disadvantage of Sony is always going to be inferior glass. They spend too
much time making trendy bodies and fully lack in optics

 

[argieramos]

Faster video focus doesn't exactly matter in a still camera

But a77 is not only a still camera. Get the point

 

[argieramos]

The main disadvantage of Sony is always going to be inferior glass. They spend too
much time making trendy bodies and fully lack in optics

Carl Zeiss glass put the Nikon and Canon glass to their place

 

[belial]

Carl Zeiss glass put the Nikon and Canon glass to their place

Zeiss offers lenses for both canon and Nikon. And a lot of zeiss glass for Sony gets horrible reviews. But the fact that there's Nikon glass for canon and Nikon as well as the normal pro offerings puts sony in more than its place

 

[unpopular]

The problem is that less light reaches the primary imaging sensor.

indeed, but look what you are gaining in return. Faster Liveview

can be obtained with a mirrorless

Video Autofocus Speed

Who cares?

faster fps with uninterrupted AF

can be obtained with a mirrorless

no mirror blur(for macro)

Can be obtained with a traditional SLR in mirror lockup, and again, mirrorless

.. The result could be better without that fixed mirror inside (see the NEX-7), but the fact that a77 IQ is still better in terms of IQ than most SLR based on DXoMark test result.

statement about dslrs has nothing to do with mirrorless cameras. In the end SLTs are the worst of both world.

a77 has better color, dynamic range and has more detail if you do a pixel peeping.

Perhaps true but I kind of doubt it. Though this statement shows how little you know about what makes a good camera a good camera. detail and dynamic range are far from features which appeal to "pixel peepers". They are what makes a camera.

 

[argieramos]

Zeiss offers lenses for both canon and Nikon. And a lot of zeiss glass for Sony gets horrible reviews. But the fact that there's Nikon glass for canon and Nikon as well as the normal pro offerings puts sony in more than its place

Nikon glass for Canon? You do know that it is only possible with an adapter, right? Do you want to see the comparison of Sony CZ,Nikon, and Canon 24-70mm? Canon got the worst review and CZ is the sharpest. CZ on canon and nikon are old MF lens. Now let me see the reviews that you are talking about