Sony downgraded to JUNK rating?

[Overread]

I suspect R&D is always an investment for them that can make its money back - even if they can't make use of the product they can licence or outright sell it to generate some income. Also lets not forget many of these companies like to play the denial game with copyright and patents.

 

[manaheim]

Burn Sony, Burn.

I can think of no company more deserving.

That said, the loss of competition for the Xbox would be unfortunate (and I'm saying this as an Xbox owner), and obviously Sony makes a lot of products (sensors, batteries) that are in a LOT of things we use today, so that would cause some issues.

Still...

Burn SONY BURN.

 

[cosmonaut]

I think Sony cameras are doing very well. Nikon and Canon both are losing out on a huge market by slacking in the compact area. Yeah Sony I think is about to have a full frame compact to compete with the Leica M cameras. The Leica clan will go nuts when they have a full frame camera to put their Leica glass on.
IMO The a99 is a technical marvel. If you look at how far Sony has come since the release of the a900 it's unreal. They have come a long way in a short time. The last three outing with it I had no post work to do on the final image. The exposure was perfect out of the camera.

 

[rexbobcat]

Burn Sony, Burn.

I can think of no company more deserving.

That said, the loss of competition for the Xbox would be unfortunate (and I'm saying this as an Xbox owner), and obviously Sony makes a lot of products (sensors, batteries) that are in a LOT of things we use today, so that would cause some issues.

Still...

Burn SONY BURN.

Having only the Xbox is...terrifying.

Microsoft is like that company who says "hey look guys! I totally created this new thing!"
*coughBingcoughSurface*

When in actuality Apple or Google did it three years earlier

And better.

Seriously is Windows 8 not the stupidest OS to ever exist?

 

[unpopular]

Seriously is Windows 8 not the stupidest OS to ever exist?

what, the whole picture password thing isn't selling it for you?

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I love how Microsoft is trying to be all hip lately. I guess that "I'm not kewl enough for a mac" campaign didn't work out so well.

imagine that.

 

[rexbobcat]

what, the whole picture password thing isn't selling it for you?

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I love how Microsoft is trying to be all hip lately. I guess that "I'm not kewl enough for a mac" campaign didn't work out so well.

imagine that.

Exactly. It's like Microsoft is that awkward uncle who tries to relate to all of the youngsters but just keeps making bad decisions.

They're taking everything awesome about Windows and assimilating into the pseudo- technology-savvy youth.

 

[cgipson1]

Having only the Xbox is...terrifying.

Microsoft is like that company who says "hey look guys! I totally created this new thing!"
*coughBingcoughSurface*

When in actuality Apple or Google did it three years earlier

And better.

Seriously is Windows 8 not the stupidest OS to ever exist?

They still have about 84% of the OS market.... and while businesses wont adopt Win 8, it will probably be really popular with a certain segment of home users... the ones that mostly text, email, and surf. Most people will just wait until they give back the standard desktop... or use something like Classic Shell to get rid of the stupid interface that Win 8 has.

Apple might get a small share of users.. as will Linux. But most will stick with MS (especially if MS will get their head our of their A$$)

 

[unpopular]

well, their new logo certainly isn't inspiring hipness.

It's like something a committee of MBAs would design. I can just see it "you know what's hip? helvetica!" ... "yeah and simple stuff ... like squares" ... "yeah, and business people like us are squares. it's a win-win!"

 

[rexbobcat]

They still have about 84% of the OS market.... and while businesses wont adopt Win 8, it will probably be really popular with a certain segment of home users... the ones that mostly text, email, and surf. Most people will just wait until they give back the standard desktop... or use something like Classic Shell to get rid of the stupid interface that Win 8 has.

Apple might get a small share of users.. as will Linux. But most will stick with MS (especially if MS will get their head our of their A$$)

But that 84% is coming from Windows 7, which is actually pretty awesome.

I guess doing what works over and over again is just too "boring" for Microsoft.

I liked Windows because you could actually take the hood off of the OS and look around inside. With iOS it's not as accessible.

 

[unpopular]

Having only the Xbox is...terrifying.

Microsoft is like that company who says "hey look guys! I totally created this new thing!"
*coughBingcoughSurface*

When in actuality Apple or Google did it three years earlier

And better.

Seriously is Windows 8 not the stupidest OS to ever exist?

They still have about 84% of the OS market.... and while businesses wont adopt Win 8, it will probably be really popular with a certain segment of home users... the ones that mostly text, email, and surf. Most people will just wait until they give back the standard desktop... or use something like Classic Shell to get rid of the stupid interface that Win 8 has.

Apple might get a small share of users.. as will Linux. But most will stick with MS (especially if MS will get their head our of their A$$)

And the spice girls sold millions of albums, too.

 

[cgipson1]

I think Sony cameras are doing very well. Nikon and Canon both are losing out on a huge market by slacking in the compact area. Yeah Sony I think is about to have a full frame compact to compete with the Leica M cameras. The Leica clan will go nuts when they have a full frame camera to put their Leica glass on.
IMO The a99 is a technical marvel. If you look at how far Sony has come since the release of the a900 it's unreal. They have come a long way in a short time. The last three outing with it I had no post work to do on the final image. The exposure was perfect out of the camera.

Too bad they can't stay in business just based on camera sales... right? They used to have a huge share of the TV market, and lost it due to bad decisions, and better products from the competition. Even with cameras, if they concentrate on the non-photographer market (as they seem to do)... that won't get them out of the red. They may sell a body.. maybe a kit lens, but those buyers won't buy much more. That is where the majority of the money is made... sells AFTER the body and kit lens, and that market won't provide those sales.

 

[cgipson1]

Having only the Xbox is...terrifying.

Microsoft is like that company who says "hey look guys! I totally created this new thing!"
*coughBingcoughSurface*

When in actuality Apple or Google did it three years earlier

And better.

Seriously is Windows 8 not the stupidest OS to ever exist?

They still have about 84% of the OS market.... and while businesses wont adopt Win 8, it will probably be really popular with a certain segment of home users... the ones that mostly text, email, and surf. Most people will just wait until they give back the standard desktop... or use something like Classic Shell to get rid of the stupid interface that Win 8 has.

Apple might get a small share of users.. as will Linux. But most will stick with MS (especially if MS will get their head our of their A$$)

And the spice girls sold millions of albums, too.

Hey, some people like the Spice Girls... I have to admit I don't really consider your post pertinent to the issue.... care to explain your logic?

 

[cgipson1]

Seriously is Windows 8 not the stupidest OS to ever exist?

Little Thread jack, huh?

 

[rexbobcat]

Too bad they can't stay in business just based on camera sales... right? They used to have a huge share of the TV market, and lost it due to bad decisions, and better products from the competition. Even with cameras, if they concentrate on the non-photographer market (as they seem to do)... that won't get them out of the red. They may sell a body.. maybe a kit lens, but those buyers won't buy much more. That is where the majority of the money is made... sells AFTER the body and kit lens, and that market won't provide those sales.

What about Canon, who sells a 5D here and there but then totally BANKS on the 10 million grandmas who buy Rebels and never remove the lens lol.

 

[cgipson1]

Too bad they can't stay in business just based on camera sales... right? They used to have a huge share of the TV market, and lost it due to bad decisions, and better products from the competition. Even with cameras, if they concentrate on the non-photographer market (as they seem to do)... that won't get them out of the red. They may sell a body.. maybe a kit lens, but those buyers won't buy much more. That is where the majority of the money is made... sells AFTER the body and kit lens, and that market won't provide those sales.

What about Canon, who sells a 5D here and there but then totally BANKS on the 10 million grandmas who buy Rebels and never remove the lens lol.

Canon has the market share to do that.. and the rep (as does Nikon). They are considered a real camera, by most people. Almost everyone knows Canon and Nikon... but there are a lot of people that don't even know Sony makes a DSLR. Or at least Canon and Nikon are the first names they think of when they think of a camera... not Sony. There again, market share, and the amount of time they have been around.

Your point above is also a reason I much prefer Nikon!