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Sony downgraded to JUNK rating?

They still have about 84% of the OS market.... and while businesses wont adopt Win 8, it will probably be really popular with a certain segment of home users... the ones that mostly text, email, and surf. Most people will just wait until they give back the standard desktop... or use something like Classic Shell to get rid of the stupid interface that Win 8 has.

Apple might get a small share of users.. as will Linux. But most will stick with MS (especially if MS will get their head our of their A$$)

And the spice girls sold millions of albums, too.

Hey, some people like the Spice Girls... :) I have to admit I don't really consider your post pertinent to the issue.... care to explain your logic?

I, likewise don't understand why the number of Windows users is pertinent. I read this as an appeal to the populace.
 
rexbobcat said:
Having only the Xbox is...terrifying.

Microsoft is like that company who says "hey look guys! I totally created this new thing!"
*coughBingcoughSurface*

When in actuality Apple or Google did it three years earlier

And better.

Seriously is Windows 8 not the stupidest OS to ever exist?

Companies that truly innovate are rarely the ones that succeed with their innovation.

Microsoft is very good at taking something someone else created and making it a mainstream success. You can balk all you like but the Xbox is obviously not only successful but very viable.

I'll be the first to tell you I expected a gaming console based on Windows to be a mess, but it worked brilliiantly.
 
manaheim said:
Companies that truly innovate are rarely the ones that succeed with their innovation.

Microsoft is very good at taking something someone else created and making it a mainstream success. You can balk all you like but the Xbox is obviously not only successful but very viable.

I'll be the first to tell you I expected a gaming console based on Windows to be a mess, but it worked brilliiantly.

Yes but the popularity doesn't necessarily prove that it's one of the best things. Take the MIDI music format. It has been used in EVERYTHING since the 80s. Not because it's awesome, but because it's about the only mainstream file format that is compatible with a lot of other things.

. I've never gone to someone's house who's like "hey dude can I borrow your Sega Dreamcast game" so why would I buy a Dreamcast if obviously nobody else I buying them. Even though they're probably just as good as the Xbox. Lol

I don't like the Xbox because if I wanted to feel like I was using PC I would use a PC. The UI and basic usability is not streamlined enough like the Playstation is for me. Even though it works fine,

Sooooo anyways.... Thread hijack again lol
 
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cosmonaut said:
I think Sony cameras are doing very well. Nikon and Canon both are losing out on a huge market by slacking in the compact area. Yeah Sony I think is about to have a full frame compact to compete with the Leica M cameras. The Leica clan will go nuts when they have a full to put their Leica glass on.
IMO The a99 is a technical marvel. If you look at how far Sony has come since the release of the a900 it's unreal. They have come a long way in a short time. The last three outing with it I had no post work to do on the final image. The exposure was perfect out of the camera.

They will never compete with Leica they will never go from Leica to Sony, you can already fit Leica lenses on most mirror less cameras and Nex
 
cosmonaut said:
I think Sony cameras are doing very well. Nikon and Canon both are losing out on a huge market by slacking in the compact area. Yeah Sony I think is about to have a full frame compact to compete with the Leica M cameras. The Leica clan will go nuts when they have a full to put their Leica glass on.
IMO The a99 is a technical marvel. If you look at how far Sony has come since the release of the a900 it's unreal. They have come a long way in a short time. The last three outing with it I had no post work to do on the final image. The exposure was perfect out of the camera.

They will never compete with Leica they will never go from Leica to Sony, you can already fit Leica lenses on most mirror less cameras and Nex

I agree! Sony and Leica?? That is like comparing KIA and Ferrari, lol!
 
So what Sony's bust really matters in your consumer choice? What a first world problem!

When the big three were begging for bail out, I didn't hear Americans complain about fewer choices at the dealer's parking lot.
 
molested_cow said:
So what Sony's bust really matters in your consumer choice? What a first world problem!

When the big three were begging for bail out, I didn't hear Americans complain about fewer choices at the dealer's parking lot.

Ah yes. The old "somebody always has it worse than you" argument.

Too bad we're not all ten years old.
 
It seemed sony's tvs were always priced about $100 higher then other tv's and when the majority of people are lookign for tv's there not checking pixel count or quality there going, this one is 50" and its $100 cheaper. same with ps3 when it came out I had a lot of friends jumping ship from the ps2 to the xbox 360 merely on price and this is when the red ring of death was going on. people were willing to take the chance of there system burning up over paying a higher cost. there car audio line started having reliability issues and what do they do. they rename there audio line "xplod" yeah lets take a reliability issue and put it right into the name of our product.
 
molested_cow said:
So what Sony's bust really matters in your consumer choice? What a first world problem!

When the big three were begging for bail out, I didn't hear Americans complain about fewer choices at the dealer's parking lot.

Ah yes. The old "somebody always has it worse than you" argument.

Too bad we're not all ten years old.

I don't know. He's got a point. What great travesty is it if the price of television sets goes up, or we're forced to choose between LG and Samsung? So we're forced between two crappy, overpriced television sets; we could always go without, you know.
 
unpopular said:
I don't know. He's got a point. What great travesty is it if the price of television sets goes up, or we're forced to choose between LG and Samsung? So we're forced between two crappy, overpriced television sets; we could always go without, you know.

Except that we don't have to?

This is super off-topic but...

I'm sick of the starving children in China bit

I'm not going to apologize for being more well off than someone else, and I'm not going to complain about someone being more well off than me.
 
It's not really the "starving children" argument. It's more that we;re making a huge issue out of something that ultimately doesn't matter. Literally nothing Sony does really makes that you and I use on a regular basis makes the world a better place, just a more comfortable one.

Nothing horrible is going to happen if Sony goes out of business. At least from a product availability point-of-view.
 
Well I think for those, like me, that have film Ms it is an option as the current Leica digital cameras are just to costly to me for what one gets. By the time I can afford one they are obsolete. I am sure no one will ditch their M9s for Sony. But to put my Summicron on a camera that doesn't have a crop factor would be nice. Not that I would only want the Sony full frame for that purpose only just an added treat to be able to do it.
 
^^ you must be like a billionaire.

Now, you are being silly, which is no surprise. Irrespective of what/if anything happens to the company, your Sony camera is useful until it becomes obsolete, like any other camera.

skieur
 
When I go to the supermarket and stare at the wall of TVs, the Sony ones usually stand-out, to me,
as having a better picture than most of the others.

Apple are trumpeted as the great tech innovators; not in the same league as Sony if you consider all things Sony created since the 1970s. There would be no IPod without the Walkman, decades earlier.
 

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