Sunrise bikini beach shoot - settings?

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    Hello all,
    I'm doing a bikini beach shoot early during sunrise and I wanted to get some advice on camera / flash settings. I'm using a Godox octabox 37.5 with a Yongnuo YN560 Speedlite to light the model and have the option of using a grid with the octabox and a polarizer filter. Using a Canon L series 70-200mm f2.8 on a Canon 5D Mark II.

    Any advice is much appreciated.


     
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    Light levels will change very quickly as the sun rises. If your camera can do high-speed synch, that would allow you more shutter speed/aperture flexibility.
     
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    Before you do, with ANY setup, shoot a few days before some practice shots. Ive done on the spot shooting before with little set up time, and blown it.

    know what your in for first before you shoot it up.

    Lens flare is one of the biggies.
     
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    The YN560 will not do HSS as it only has the single hot shoe pin so your are limited to maximum sync speed of the camera.

    As @Soocom1 stated, do some testing so you know the range of exposures with your combo. My suspicion is the YN560 will be maxed out with such a large modifier and you will be limited with the shutter speed even if you turn up the ISO for better flash exposure. The use of a polarizer will further complicate flash output. Additionally, keep your modifier as close as possible for softer light and reducing the power output for better recycle times. Test, test, test is the name of the game.
     
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    Make sure your lens front element and rear elements are clean....shooting into a low sun can cause weird streaky flares if the lens is not spotless.
     
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    You might need or want to "drag the shutter" depending on the desired effect/conditions.
     
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    I can't help with your settings and I'm not a portrait tog. However I am looking forward to seeing the results:greendevil:
     
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    My two cents worth. Beaches are notoriously windy, a modifier of any size is going to be a giant kite waiting to launch. I have a YN560 I use occasionally outside, as JB mentioned above you'll really cut your output in a softbox. Instead if the wind isn't to bad, I'd use a 42" white reflective umbrella on a stand, and a lot of sand bags to stabilize it. If the wind is really up ditch the umbrella and go with a 4x5 modifier on the flash like this. You aren't really looking to light the subject, just fill in the shadows on the subject.
    prod_16436569436.jpg You have two different exposures to contend with, the "ambient light" will be the main light, and the "flash" provides the fill. As Derrel mentioned you may have to slow down or "Drag the shutter" to get a good exposure overall.

    If you have a meter, then take a reflective reading of the light in the background, that's your camera setting. Then set the meter to incident, place it under the subject's chin and adjust the power on your flash till it reads at or slightly above the ambient (depending on your preference). If you don't have a meter use your camera meter to set your scene exposure average for the ambient background light, then turn it 1-2 stops below, the indicated setting. You shouldn't have to take more then a couple test shots with the flash to dial in the power for the fill.

    Lastly mixing flash with one color temperature with ambient light of another color temperature requires the addition of a CTB or CTO gel, and a WB shift in your camera settings to make them match. Here's a good reference How to Use CTO and CTB Gels to Change the Color of Your Background
     
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    I would like to see some pre-scouting shots so as to compare to the shoot and see the difference in changes. =]
     
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    We all just wanna see some bikini sunrise shots...let's be honest here.
     
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    Brilliant!!:D:D:D:D
     
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    A C Stand, which is quite heavy at the base, is better than a conventional stand for use in the wind.A metal beauty dish or metal parabolic catches less wind than any umbrella or box.
     
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