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Talent vs Skills — where’s the magic coming from?

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(The topic already exists, but I don't want to get an angry DM from a moderator again, for bumping an old one.)

Ever notice how, after putting hours into a photo — planning, buying gear, traveling, shooting, editing, tweaking every pixel — someone says, “Wow, you’re so talented!”
And somehow, it doesn’t really feel like a compliment?
It’s like all that effort, all those years of trial and error, just got taken for granted.
Because “talent” sounds like magic dust you were born with — not something you built.

But here’s the thing: if someone’s truly born with talent, why would they even need praise? You don’t compliment a bird for flying, right?

I’ve always felt it’s more of a combo — a spark of talent maybe, but a mountain of skill, patience, and persistence that actually makes the work happen.

And funny enough, that’s also where imposter syndrome sneaks in for many. You know that little voice whispering, “You’re not really talented, you just got lucky”? Yeah, that one.
But... as with photography in general — everyone can point their phone at a sunrise and get a decent shot. The magic is already happening in front of you.
If you hear someone say: “Woah! How did you do that?”... and you feel you didn’t do anything at all, it’s the nature in front of the lens that did all the work, you just pressed a button on a phone.

Ok yeah, sometimes, turning that into something that actually moves people? That takes vision, timing, editing, technical skill, and a bit of your own soul poured in.
Maybe the truth is that talent gives you a starting line — but skill, sweat, and stubbornness get you to the finish.

Curious how you all see it. When someone calls your work “talented,” does it feel flattering or kinda dismissive?
 
I personally think that talent is something that's built up, even if part of it comes naturally to someone. No one will ever pick up a camera and automatically become a master, but talent is certainly a big part of what it takes to be a master at anything. I'd take it as a compliment, not as having your hard work taken for granted.
 
do people really say "you're so skilled" in naturally occurring speech? that's not a phrase i hear too often, so even if someone understands the nuances between skill and talent, i would still expect to hear "you're so talented" instead. if someone said i was talented, i'd thank them and be happy that they didn't say "you must have a nice camera."
 
(The topic already exists, but I don't want to get an angry DM from a moderator again, for bumping an old one.)

Ever notice how, after putting hours into a photo — planning, buying gear, traveling, shooting, editing, tweaking every pixel — someone says, “Wow, you’re so talented!”
And somehow, it doesn’t really feel like a compliment?
It’s like all that effort, all those years of trial and error, just got taken for granted.
Because “talent” sounds like magic dust you were born with — not something you built.

But here’s the thing: if someone’s truly born with talent, why would they even need praise? You don’t compliment a bird for flying, right?

I’ve always felt it’s more of a combo — a spark of talent maybe, but a mountain of skill, patience, and persistence that actually makes the work happen.

And funny enough, that’s also where imposter syndrome sneaks in for many. You know that little voice whispering, “You’re not really talented, you just got lucky”? Yeah, that one.
But... as with photography in general — everyone can point their phone at a sunrise and get a decent shot. The magic is already happening in front of you.
If you hear someone say: “Woah! How did you do that?”... and you feel you didn’t do anything at all, it’s the nature in front of the lens that did all the work, you just pressed a button on a phone.

Ok yeah, sometimes, turning that into something that actually moves people? That takes vision, timing, editing, technical skill, and a bit of your own soul poured in.
Maybe the truth is that talent gives you a starting line — but skill, sweat, and stubbornness get you to the finish.

Curious how you all see it. When someone calls your work “talented,” does it feel flattering or kinda dismissive?
Many of us take credit for G-d's work. :)
 
Talent is natural ability and skill is acquired through knowledge, practice and experience. Me personally my skill is photography and restoring cars but my talent is playing the drums.
 
Take a deep dive into Garry Winogrand and tell me how you'd apply the talent/skills scale to him.
 
I think talent has to do with knowing what to shoot and having the inner vision of knowing what you want the final print to look like. But, talent is often wasted on those that don't have the gumption to develop the skills it takes to complete the task. So, it takes both talent and gumption to be a good/great photographer. We often put way too much emphasis on having the latest and greatest gear. As I look back on all the pictures I have taken over the past 50 years, most of the best ones were taken with very modest equipment a few even with an old blackberry cell phone.
 
Talent is natural ability and skill is acquired through knowledge, practice and experience. Me personally my skill is photography and restoring cars but my talent is playing the drums.
Not so sure of this. Talent seem's to me. can be developed. Shooting good photo's requires knowing where to stand and what to frame the photo to and that takes talent, a learned talent!
 
Not so sure of this. Talent seem's to me. can be developed. Shooting good photo's requires knowing where to stand and what to frame the photo to and that takes talent, a learned talent!
Yes it can be that. In the dictionary -Talent -1. A natural or acquired ability; aptitude. Key word for your statement is "acquired".
 
Always a mix of both imo: a talent of noticing amazing things around you and a solid bunch of skills and knowledge to make a perfect image out of the good picture. Most of us also use photo editing software and some skills are needed for that as well, just compare your first attempt to edit something to your latest Photoworks miracle and you'll see the difference immediately.
 

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