The boys with Lucha masks

Vicelord John · Dec 21, 2009

The overwhelming messGe im getting out of this thread is that if you are from europe, its ok to make your kids touch.

Inst!nct · Dec 21, 2009

Vicelord John said:
The overwhelming messGe im getting out of this thread is that if you are from europe, its ok to make your kids touch.

no, he was saying that its normal for people to touch each other more, like guys to hold hands without being gay and more hugs and kisses type of ****, but i dont think OP realizes what his pictures come off as..

c.cloudwalker · Dec 21, 2009

Well, I'm American and I have no problem with those photos. Would it be because I travel quite a bit and realize that the US is not the world?

French men of the same family kiss when they see each other; Russians do it too, on the mouth. Men hold hands in a lot of arab countries. Should photos of those acts not be posted because some uptight Americans don't know there is a whole other world beyond our borders? Or because they don't even realize this is an international site?

If you can't deal with the world, please stay inside, lock your doors and don't look out the windows.

Iron Flatline · Dec 21, 2009

My US wife thinks they're ok, we're using them as part of our holiday website.

Here, maybe you think she is too pornographic, too:

PhotoXopher · Dec 21, 2009

Likewise; When you post images on an international site, expect international comments.

PS
There's just as much high and mighty attitude about these photos being acceptable as there is about them being a bit over the edge. I call it as I see it, and this set of photos caused me some concern. It wasn't one oops, it was a few various poses... all of which are subjective. Remove the second one and it may tell a bit different story... that's the nail in the coffin for me.

As far as your wife goes... totally different photo, I like this one. But put her in the same age group with her hand on another girls breast or crotch and yes, I'd think the same thing as I would is she was the age she is now.

The_Traveler · Dec 21, 2009

There is an old joke about a man taking a Rorschach and seeing people having sex in various positions in every one of the abstract displays. At the end, when the therapist talks to him about his seeming preoccupation with sex, he said," Me, You're the one showing me all those dirty pictures."

Stamp · Dec 22, 2009

c.cloudwalker said:
Should photos of those acts not be posted because some uptight Americans don't know there is a whole other world beyond our borders?

What a stupid and ignorant comment. Everyone voices their opinions (which is what this thread is for), and you (as I'm guessing a liberal) bash the ones you don't like and call the posters "uptight Americans", who you don't think are as culturally diverse as you. Get real. Because one culture does it, that doesn't make it acceptable in others, but I guess you think I'm too high and mighty and I should be more empathetic and open minded, right? Try crossing one of your legs in Iraq with the bottom of your shoe pointing towards a traditional Iraqi, or talking directly to/about one of their wives, and see if they are empathetic towards your customs.

c.cloudwalker said:
Or because they don't even realize this is an international site?

Now you're getting it!!! :thumbup: International site, international differences. If photos are posted for INTERNATIONAL viewing for C&C, then roll with the punches and shut your mouth. :mrgreen:

Stamp · Dec 22, 2009

Oh, and to the OP, I found the pictures disturbing as well. Like others had said, they looked too posed and not playful (maybe the masks are hiding the smiles that's doing it).

And BTW, I love the picture of your wife. I think its very tasteful and well composed (and she's pretty hot too.

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The_Traveler · Dec 22, 2009

c.cloudwalker said:
Well, I'm American and I have no problem with those photos. Would it be because I travel quite a bit and realize that the US is not the world?

French men of the same family kiss when they see each other; Russians do it too, on the mouth. Men hold hands in a lot of arab countries. Should photos of those acts not be posted because some uptight Americans don't know there is a whole other world beyond our borders? Or because they don't even realize this is an international site?

If you can't deal with the world, please stay inside, lock your doors and don't look out the windows.

Totally agree with cloudwalker.
Note that those who are themselves offended, take as other examples of the appropriateness of their behavior, attitudes in the least accepting and most repressive of the world's other populations.

Stamp · Dec 22, 2009

The_Traveler said:
Note that those who are themselves offended, take as other examples of the appropriateness of their behavior, attitudes in the least accepting and most repressive of the world's other populations.

I don't think anyone found it offending, however, they/I wouldn't find it acceptable to the masses. Although, it's pretty much impossible to please the masses as a whole, so you're either on one side or the other side... this just so happens to be on the other side for many of us, but if that's the style you're going for, more power to you.

We're just voicing our critique on it. That's what this great site is for... feedback :hug::

The_Traveler · Dec 22, 2009

Vicelord John said:
The overwhelming messGe im getting out of this thread is that if you are from europe, its ok to make your kids touch.

Oh, yahh. And this isn't an offensive remark. and from a man who uses ViceLord as his screen name.

Inst!nct · Dec 22, 2009

@ The traveler

They are in pants, with seemingly no underwear, no shirts, in masks, touching themselves.. honestly, im all for adults taking pictures of their children wrestling/playing together, but these are way out there. I asked someone that has spent 50 years in belgium/europe , and she said also that a weird vibe was coming from these photos. But no, think about a little out of context, you show these photos to the cops, or try and print them somewhere, im sure youll get in a bit of trouble.

btw the traveler, 1 thank and +2000 posts? how does that happen

The_Traveler · Dec 22, 2009

Inst!nct said:
@ The traveler

They are in pants, with seemingly no underwear, no shirts, in masks, touching themselves.. honestly, im all for adults taking pictures of their children wrestling/playing together, but these are way out there. I asked someone that has spent 50 years in belgium/europe , and she said also that a weird vibe was coming from these photos. But no, think about a little out of context, you show these photos to the cops, or try and print them somewhere, im sure youll get in a bit of trouble.

btw the traveler, 1 thank and +2000 posts? how does that happen

You might indeed get in trouble in backwoods Virginia.

'The 2000 posts and 1 thank you' is clearly an ad hominem attack meant to devalue what I say.
But I will tell you since you asked. If you go back over my history, you'll find I left TPF about 18 months ago, frustrated with the poor quality of the c&c's and moderation. This was before this 'thank you' system was enacted. I came back out of curiosity because, out of nowhere, I got an email/pm from an old member.

This kind of discussion reminds me of why I left.

Inst!nct · Dec 22, 2009

Ahh ok i see, and maybe it could be due to me living in virginia, but im not allowed to voice my opinion without getting bashed for being an "uptight american"

and no, i was not trying to diminish the value of what you were saying, i was sincerely wondering

Stamp · Dec 22, 2009

Getting off topic here, but post count and thank yous, have nothing to do with the value of your advice/critique/suggestions. It only shows that you have more time to dedicate to interaction on a forum. I would suggest that the Admins remove the post counts and thank yous from under our names, as everyone is judged too much by them, and not their knowledge and experience.