The changing field of professional cameras

[skieur]

Yes, Skieur still refuses to see that the A77 will not be a camera that is well received among professional photographers. Mostly due to it's poor ISO handling, also due to the EVF.

Who cares whether it is well received? Some reviews have indicated that it is a flag camera for Sony, and it fits the bill as being equal to the other cameras in my list.
At 1600, its ISO handling is equal to the others on my list and slightly better than the Canon IDS Mark III when you look at the photos side by side. I even pointed out where to look in the image. That is better proof than any "opinion".

Sony is the only current camera with an OLED viewfinder with a higher resolution than any other at 2.2 million dots, greater contrast, and brighter colour. It is also a full size viewfinder screen and not at all similar to any other EVF in any other camera. It is better than an optical viewfinder in low light as has also been indicated in many reviews.

The bottom line assessment from pros is that it is different and therefore some will get used to it and embrace the advantages, whereas other will stick to their optical viewfinders. but that is typical of any improvement/change in photographic technology. There will always be for example, some photographers trying to stick to large format black and white film or plate technologies.


skieur

 

[Destin]

Who cares whether it is well received? Some reviews have indicated that it is a flag camera for Sony, and it fits the bill as being equal to the other cameras in my list.
At 1600, its ISO handling is equal to the others on my list and slightly better than the Canon IDS Mark III when you look at the photos side by side. I even pointed out where to look in the image. That is better proof than any "opinion".

Sony is the only current camera with an OLED viewfinder with a higher resolution than any other at 2.2 million dots, greater contrast, and brighter colour. It is also a full size viewfinder screen and not at all similar to any other EVF in any other camera. It is better than an optical viewfinder in low light as has also been indicated in many reviews.

The bottom line assessment from pros is that it is different and therefore some will get used to it and embrace the advantages, whereas other will stick to their optical viewfinders. but that is typical of any improvement/change in photographic technology. There will always be for example,
some photographers trying to stick to large format black and white film or plate technologies.

skieur

So you're comparing a new camera to a camera that is almost 2 generations old? For real?

 

[skieur]

Well, based on what you are saying and Derrel's definition the Nikon D3S is NOT a pro camera because it is NOT the best in current technology. Maybe the Canon IDS Mark III is NOT a pro camera either.????

skieur

Give it about 2 more months, and no it won't be. What you are doing is manipulating the current situation and playing semantic patty cake like a 14 year old girl. It's to the point where you are just embarrassing yourself and getting nothing accomplished. You think the A77 is as good as any camera on the market and there is no need for the 8 thousand dollar bodies. Right, we got it.

No, you don't have it. The 3 cameras I mentioned are pretty well equal in specifications and image quality when looking at photos side by side at www.imaging-resources,com All 3 cameras have pluses and minuses. Any successful pro would be able to take advantages of the pluses of any of these 3 cameras and work around any perceived weaknesses.

I find it funny that while lauding new technology as represented by some of the features of the A77, some are very fast to call it gimmicky....until of course it comes out in a Canon or Nikon version. Then of course, they will change their view.

skieur

 

[Ballistics]

Yes, I do have it. I don't consider anything a gimmick that is useful. You think the A77 is the camera to own, and we all disagree.

 

[gsgary]

The A77 is no where near as good as the A900

 

[mjhoward]

 

[unpopular]

^^ I tried, but even 'your mom' jokes wouldn't kill it.

It's hopeless.

 

[table1349]

Sony's First Betamax VCR, the SL-7200 from 1976

Another wonderful Sony Invention.

Excuse me, I have to go alphabetize my 8 Track Collection now.

 

[Nikon_Josh]

THE A77 is no where near as good as my Iphone 3GS camera, the images it produces are simply ordinary in comparison to iphone images! :er:

SO my conclusion is this... My compact camera and my Iphone produces better images than the Sony A77!! END OF STORY!!

 

[unpopular]

your mom is no where near as good as my iphone 3gs.

... ok maybe that one was a little over the top.

 

[unpopular]

and skieur i swear to god if you somehow think that was about your mom, i'd suggest you go visit sigmund!

 

[nickzou]

THE A77 is no where near as good as my Iphone 3GS camera, the images it produces are simply ordinary in comparison to iphone images! :er:

SO my conclusion is this... My compact camera and my Iphone produces better images than the Sony A77!! END OF STORY!!

Test shots! I demand test shots!

 

[Nikon_Josh]

THE A77 is no where near as good as my Iphone 3GS camera, the images it produces are simply ordinary in comparison to iphone images! :er:

SO my conclusion is this... My compact camera and my Iphone produces better images than the Sony A77!! END OF STORY!!

Test shots! I demand test shots!

Haha, don't worry Nick. I have shown 'Skieur' the test shots, he is head of Research and development at Sony! He designed the A77's sensor, when he WAS designing the sensor the camera uses. He famously said 'I am going to make a 24MP A77 and it will be a professional camera without professional features, it will also be a professional camera that photographers do not view as a pro camera. And also, the A77 will have IQ as good as a Nikon d3S.'

When I showed him the test shots just now, he was astounded. He couldn't believe my Iphone was outperforming the sensor he designed for the A77! He is now as we speak back in the lab, improving the A77's sensor. His ambition now is to get it so it produces better images than an Iphone... he also feels slightly ashamed that he started this thread now...I mean, he now realises the A77 is not even as good as an iphone camera let alone a Pro DSLR!

Stay tuned folks....

I will be keeping you updated on Skieur's progress...

 

[skieur]

THE A77 is no where near as good as my Iphone 3GS camera, the images it produces are simply ordinary in comparison to iphone images! :er:

SO my conclusion is this... My compact camera and my Iphone produces better images than the Sony A77!! END OF STORY!!

Test shots! I demand test shots!

Go back and find the links to the test shots.

skieur

 

[skieur]

The A77 is no where near as good as the A900

So, you would prefer to wait for the A99 full frame with 36 megapixels, next year?

skieur