The changing field of professional cameras

[skieur]

THE A77 is no where near as good as my Iphone 3GS camera, the images it produces are simply ordinary in comparison to iphone images! :er:

SO my conclusion is this... My compact camera and my Iphone produces better images than the Sony A77!! END OF STORY!!

Test shots! I demand test shots!

Haha, don't worry Nick. I have shown 'Skieur' the test shots, he is head of Research and development at Sony! He designed the A77's sensor, when he WAS designing the sensor the camera uses. He famously said 'I am going to make a 24MP A77 and it will be a professional camera without professional features, it will also be a professional camera that photographers do not view as a pro camera. And also, the A77 will have IQ as good as a Nikon d3S.'

When I showed him the test shots just now, he was astounded. He couldn't believe my Iphone was outperforming the sensor he designed for the A77! He is now as we speak back in the lab, improving the A77's sensor. His ambition now is to get it so it produces better images than an Iphone... he also feels slightly ashamed that he started this thread now...I mean, he now realises the A77 is not even as good as an iphone camera let alone a Pro DSLR!

Stay tuned folks....

I will be keeping you updated on Skieur's progress...

Completely full of bull!

skieur

 

[skieur]

Sony's First Betamax VCR, the SL-7200 from 1976

Another wonderful Sony Invention.

Excuse me, I have to go alphabetize my 8 Track Collection now.

Interesting that Sony features are being copied by Nikon and Canon, but not as well. Live view anyone???

:lmao:

skieur

 

[skieur]

your mom is no where near as good as my iphone 3gs.

... ok maybe that one was a little over the top.

Your ignorance of my mom's photographic work and reputation is downright funny! :lmao::lmao::lmao:

skieur

 

[unpopular]

this thread is hopeless

 

[unpopular]

Interesting that Sony features are being copied by Nikon and Canon, but not as well. Live view anyone???

:lmao:

skieur

skieur is right on this one. when sony started with the articulating back pros bocked and said it was a worthless feature only enjoyed only by amateurs, it's such an obviously good idea, I wondered how much of this was fanboism.

Regardless, SLT is just a bad idea and can't ever be made a good idea. Even if sensors become so effective that the translucent mirror could be used effectively, you will always have greater signal intensity if it were a clear path. I think a better investment for camera manufacturers would be faster contrast detection AF.

 

[skieur]

Yes, I do have it. I don't consider anything a gimmick that is useful. You think the A77 is the camera to own, and we all disagree.

Gee, you don't read. I said ALL THREE CAMERAS IN MY LIST ARE EQUAL!

skieur

 

[skieur]

Interesting that Sony features are being copied by Nikon and Canon, but not as well. Live view anyone???

:lmao:

skieur

skieur is right on this one. when sony started with the articulating back pros bocked and said it was a worthless feature only enjoyed only by amateurs, it's such an obviously good idea, I wondered how much of this was fanboism.

Regardless, SLT is just a bad idea and can't ever be made a good idea. Even if sensors become so effective that the translucent mirror could be used effectively, you will always have greater signal intensity if it were a clear path. I think a better investment for camera manufacturers would be faster contrast detection AF.

Boy, you have just demonstrated how really far behind you are in the technology. The Sony live view is being copied on several DSLRs.

Contrast detection AF has always been a failure and Sony's super fast phase detection autofocus even for video will I am sure be copied by Nikon and Canon as well.

skieur

 

[skieur]

this thread is hopeless

No, what is hopeless is your limited vision of photographic technology and your bias against one camera maker.

skieur

 

[unpopular]

Well. Skieur. I'm not going to fall for your insults.

But i do know that contrast detection is being used in the NEX, and yes, it is slower than phase contrast. But i think the reason why any manufacturer would produce a pellicle-type SLR still camera is to reduce cost, not to improve image quality.

 

[unpopular]

this thread is hopeless

No, what is hopeless is your limited vision of photographic technology and your bias against one camera maker.

skieur

LMFAO. You realize I am using an a350 and plan to upgrade to an NEX-7, right?

 

[Nikon_Josh]

Test shots! I demand test shots!

Haha, don't worry Nick. I have shown 'Skieur' the test shots, he is head of Research and development at Sony! He designed the A77's sensor, when he WAS designing the sensor the camera uses. He famously said 'I am going to make a 24MP A77 and it will be a professional camera without professional features, it will also be a professional camera that photographers do not view as a pro camera. And also, the A77 will have IQ as good as a Nikon d3S.'

When I showed him the test shots just now, he was astounded. He couldn't believe my Iphone was outperforming the sensor he designed for the A77! He is now as we speak back in the lab, improving the A77's sensor. His ambition now is to get it so it produces better images than an Iphone... he also feels slightly ashamed that he started this thread now...I mean, he now realises the A77 is not even as good as an iphone camera let alone a Pro DSLR!

Stay tuned folks....

I will be keeping you updated on Skieur's progress...

Completely full of bull!

skieur

I'm glad you recognise bull when you see it, because you certainly are full of BULL!

Can I say on behalf of the whole forum.. SHUT THE HELL UP and stop continuing this pointless Frickin Boring Thread. You are clearly INSANE!

 

[skieur]

Haha, don't worry Nick. I have shown 'Skieur' the test shots, he is head of Research and development at Sony! He designed the A77's sensor, when he WAS designing the sensor the camera uses. He famously said 'I am going to make a 24MP A77 and it will be a professional camera without professional features, it will also be a professional camera that photographers do not view as a pro camera. And also, the A77 will have IQ as good as a Nikon d3S.'

When I showed him the test shots just now, he was astounded. He couldn't believe my Iphone was outperforming the sensor he designed for the A77! He is now as we speak back in the lab, improving the A77's sensor. His ambition now is to get it so it produces better images than an Iphone... he also feels slightly ashamed that he started this thread now...I mean, he now realises the A77 is not even as good as an iphone camera let alone a Pro DSLR!

Stay tuned folks....

I will be keeping you updated on Skieur's progress...

Completely full of bull!

skieur

I'm glad you recognise bull when you see it, because you certainly are full of BULL!

Can I say on behalf of the whole forum.. SHUT THE HELL UP and stop continuing this pointless Frickin Boring Thread. You are clearly INSANE!

So, you make up stories, such as the above when you are bored. This is only frustrating to you, because I won't accept your incorrect premise that Nikon is somehow better. It is similar to the Canon and Sony camera I mentioned in both specifications and image quality.

With more experience as a photographer, and when you get a chance to use different cameras, you might even learn that they are very similar in everything but design and placement of features.

skieur

 

[skieur]

Well, pros will chose cameras based on the type of photography that they do and what level of shooting they do as well. DSLRs are starting to push out the medium format cameras with 36 megapixels starting next year with Nikon and Sony. The sensor was produced by Sony. I am sure that Canon will not be far behind with their own camera in that range as well. Multiple in camera processors and firmware is starting to make a difference in the technology as well.

Some photographers have always been in a rut and unwilling and resistant to change and to move to new technology unless they are forced kicking and screaming into it. In that regard, the film fanatics, and black and white photographers come to mind. Others however will be making money out on the cutting edge of the newest photography features of both hardware and software. Virtual tours, 3D panoramas, simulated tilt-shift photos that eliminate wide angle distortion to name a few.

So, take your choice. Be on the front end or the rear end of change in photography. Choose the camera that is feature rich and quick to change or the camera that is somewhat behind and less inclined to add certain features. Now you can even chose whether to pay a lot or pay less. Of course it makes a difference, if you are planning to keep your camera(s) for a long time or are going to use them like consumables.

There is no best camera. The Canon, Nikon and Sony that I mentioned were equal in specs and image quality. Leica also has great classic pro cameras in their M and R series.

skieur

 

[Ballistics]

Completely full of bull!

skieur

I'm glad you recognise bull when you see it, because you certainly are full of BULL!

Can I say on behalf of the whole forum.. SHUT THE HELL UP and stop continuing this pointless Frickin Boring Thread. You are clearly INSANE!

So, you make up stories, such as the above when you are bored. This is only frustrating to you, because I won't accept your incorrect premise that Nikon is somehow better. It is similar to the Canon and Sony camera I mentioned in both specifications and image quality.

With more experience as a photographer, and when you get a chance to use different cameras, you might even learn that they are very similar in everything but design and placement of features.

skieur

So you've compared (and used) the A77, D7000, D3, D700, 5DII,7D, 60D, 1D all side by side?

 

[thereyougo!4]

I think it unlikely that Nikon will bring out a 36 mp camera to replace a 12mp. In any case Skieur you have limited knowledge about the differences between sensor sizes and their relationship to image quality. If you think it is all about number of mp you are very much mistaken. The Nikon or canon having a 36 mp sensor will not kill digital medium format. It's a different market. It's like saying crop will kill full frame and we know that's not true.