The Pact

[Parago]

Ok I have two questions

1. What in the world has happened to this forum..?
2. Why doesn't manaheim sport his own brainchild signature link anymore?

:meh:

 

[Overread]

What happened in condensed form:

1) Case sold the forum to new site owners - from the outset this was a fiancial move by them to use the site as an income source rather than from a desire to own a photography forum in general. This caused one or two people to jump ship, but at the time nothing major really happened

2) New site owners made quite a few promises (including an overhaul to the paid members features) but as yet many of these have not been fullfilled

3) Site owners opened a new NSFW gallery subsection - as a result of this this subsection actually became quite popular. Replies were respected and in general it was going along very well

4) Site owners closed the NSFW section and banned NSFW photos from the site without consulting members (nor the moderators either). In the end we've never had any offical reply back from them regarding this so we are left to assume one of the site advertisers showed an objection. Further several suggestions were made to allow a restricted access NSFW section to be allowed - again no reply

To summaries the forum runs but without anyone at the head of the ship with an interest to photography nor to the users of the site. As a result (as well as a few other things) two splinter groups (at least) formed away from TPF though I have to say most of the uses in them also still use TPF as a main site.
The downside is that it means we have lost many of the more experienced contributing members of the site and as a result of this (plus a healthy influx of new photographers) we have a somewhat bottom heavy community with a lot of new beginners and fewer more established members.

 

[Parago]

What happened in condensed form:

1) Case sold the forum to new site owners - from the outset this was a fiancial move by them to use the site as an income source rather than from a desire to own a photography forum in general. This caused one or two people to jump ship, but at the time nothing major really happened

2) New site owners made quite a few promises (including an overhaul to the paid members features) but as yet many of these have not been fullfilled

3) Site owners opened a new NSFW gallery subsection - as a result of this this subsection actually became quite popular. Replies were respected and in general it was going along very well

4) Site owners closed the NSFW section and banned NSFW photos from the site without consulting members (nor the moderators either). In the end we've never had any offical reply back from them regarding this so we are left to assume one of the site advertisers showed an objection. Further several suggestions were made to allow a restricted access NSFW section to be allowed - again no reply

To summaries the forum runs but without anyone at the head of the ship with an interest to photography nor to the users of the site. As a result (as well as a few other things) two splinter groups (at least) formed away from TPF though I have to say most of the uses in them also still use TPF as a main site.
The downside is that it means we have lost many of the more experienced contributing members of the site and as a result of this (plus a healthy influx of new photographers) we have a somewhat bottom heavy community with a lot of new beginners and fewer more established members.

Wow, well first of all thanks for the quick and concise response. I have to say I'm rather shocked. I've never been extremely active on here or anything but always regarded TPF as one of the best online communities for professionals as well as beginners out there.

Now, the whole forum has this air of elitist snobbishness (is that even a word..? Oh whatever.) to it and this so called "Pact" reminds me of some kind of fascist frat codex. Awful.

Well.. I'll be looking around a little more in the subforums since I haven't been here for over a year but as of right now this is not a place I want to come back to, to be honest. Arrogance is toxic in a place that is supposed to embrace curiosity, creativity, and a sense for community.

 

[Village Idiot]

Well.. I'll be looking around a little more in the subforums since I haven't been here for over a year but as of right now this is not a place I want to come back to, to be honest. Arrogance is toxic in a place that is supposed to embrace curiosity, creativity, and a sense for community.

I wouldn't bother. The only forum here that gets used is the beginner's forum.

What can I say? It's a ship of fools caught in a current that keeps taking us in one big circle.

Now maybe if the people that owned the key to unlock the wheel hadn't jumped overboard, then maybe things would be a bit different.

 

[manaheim]

The Pact was just an attempt by me to try to establish some kind of code the membership could live by to try and bolster up the forum a bit.

One interpretation of it is that it is elitist or snobbish or whatever. I don't see it, but then I've also found over time that people who are in a defensive position for whatever reason find most kinds of alternate suggestions as arrogant.

I'm sure that will be interpreted as arrogant. It probably is. The real sad truth of it is I can't even myself live up to my own pact anymore. I've grown too tired of candy-coating everything all the time to keep people from getting their hackles up.

It is what it is. I tried. *shrug*

 

[Parago]

The Pact was just an attempt by me to try to establish some kind of code the membership could live by to try and bolster up the forum a bit.

One interpretation of it is that it is elitist or snobbish or whatever. I don't see it, but then I've also found over time that people who are in a defensive position for whatever reason find most kinds of alternate suggestions as arrogant.

I'm sure that will be interpreted as arrogant. It probably is. The real sad truth of it is I can't even myself live up to my own pact anymore. I've grown too tired of candy-coating everything all the time to keep people from getting their hackles up.

It is what it is. I tried. *shrug*

LOL wow.. I hope you feel sufficiently sorry for yourself.

Anyhow, after seeing more of what's been happening on here since the last time I logged in, I, too, shall find me some other place to network, learn, play, and exchange ideas and advice. This here sure isn't the place for it anymore.

Good luck.

 

[manaheim]

^^^ statements/attitudes like that are a big part of what wore me down on this place, though in truth I think it's just an artifact of any large internet community.

Again... *shrug*.

 

[Petraio Prime]

1. Know Thyself
   • I hereby acknowledge that I am not Ansel Adams.

For this we should all be most grateful. One of him was one too many.

 

[usayit]

1. Know Thyself
   • I hereby acknowledge that I am not Ansel Adams.

For this we should all be most grateful. One of him was one too many.

We all know that you don't want to be around or acquainted with photographers.... So why are you still here?

 

[white]

Internet forums are srs bsns.

 

[Petraio Prime]

1. Know Thyself
   • I hereby acknowledge that I am not Ansel Adams.

For this we should all be most grateful. One of him was one too many.

We all know that you don't want to be around or acquainted with photographers.... So why are you still here?

I don't want to be confused with the typical photographer or bourgeois thinking about photography.

 

[manaheim]

^^^ LMFAO

Boy did you just paint a big target on your head, mr. non-typical photographer hanging out on a big mainstream photo-forum.

I SALUTE THEE!



(I'm still trying to figure out how a typical photographer is bourgeois...)

 

[SrBiscuit]

i came back for the lulz.

 

[smokinphoto]

This was a good laugh. Thank you very much.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

1. Know Thyself
   • I hereby acknowledge that I am not Ansel Adams.

For this we should all be most grateful. One of him was one too many.

We all know that you don't want to be around or acquainted with photographers.... So why are you still here?

He's here for the chicks.