Thinking bout going to digital

[timor]

I'm on the piwo again again

Well, looks like you can watch this thread only being on piwo.

 

[gsgary]

I'm on the piwo again again

Well, looks like you can watch this thread only being on piwo.

Got a lovely pint of raspberry wheat beer in my hand

 

[timor]

I'm on the piwo again again

Well, looks like you can watch this thread only being on piwo.

Got a lovely pint of raspberry wheat beer in my hand

Raspberry wheat beer doesn't have for me enough dynamic range in taste, that's one, second, I prefer beer with much more megapixels. However ,, they go only up to 8-9, not 36. But then I can always interpolate them artificially using a bottle of strong algorithm ! :idea: !

 

[gsgary]

This is only 4mp but it loves a bit of Rodinal

 

[vintagesnaps]

"It depends" seems to describe it well, that's I think how I go about it. I haven't read up on dynamic range, I go by what I see and to me there's a different look to images from film. I think it depends on the film you use and the camera and lens and the light you were shooting in etc. etc. - there are lot of variables but good is good, there are just various ways to get there.

My digital camera is DNG so it automatically produces a Raw image and a JPEG from that which I rarely use (I typically save a copy of the Raw as a JPEG if I need it because the quality looks better). I print my own and may print from the media card what I got in camera, or I may brighten it up or adjust contrast, etc. that's what works for me.

Same basic idea when I've done darkroom work, once I've determined exposure time if I shot a roll in the same place, same lighting I can often crank out prints pretty efficiently. Other times I might have to do more adjusting and burn in a light corner or dodge out some detail in a dark area, it depends on any particular frame of film. And sometimes I may have to do further adjustments to a film or a digital image, I do whatever needs to be done for a particular photo. It just depends! LOL

Ansel Adams did Polaroids and encouraged people to try out the 'new' technology at the time (which he corresponded with Edwin Land about) but I don't think by trying something new that meant he had to give up B&W film work. You don't have to stop shooting film to shoot digital.

The OP asked - could he get good quality color images using a digital camera compared to the good quality color photos he got from film, yes I would think so; good but most likely somewhat different. I think it's a matter of developing skills in using whatever technologies you use.


But... it should go to 11!

 

[limr32 1]

But... it should go to 11!

:lmao:

 

[jtmiv]

Well, looks like you can watch this thread only being on piwo.

Got a lovely pint of raspberry wheat beer in my hand

Raspberry wheat beer doesn't have for me enough dynamic range in taste, that's one, second, I prefer beer with much more megapixels. However ,, they go only up to 8-9, not 36. But then I can always interpolate them artificially using a bottle of strong algorithm ! :idea: !

+ 1000, million zillion and then some

 

[dubiousone]

Hello
Several years ago I got started with photograph as a hobby and pretty much what I’ve learned was self taught. I have a Canon AE1 with a variety of lenses and filters which I really like and have taken some really nice pictures with it in the past. I kinda let it go for a long time but recently I got the ole girl out and with a fresh battery it still works like a charm the problem is that I didn’t realize that the cost of film and processing had went up so much. I have been entertaining the idea of stepping up to a digital SLR which brings me to another problem. Please excuse my ignorance but what little experience I’ve had with digital has been only with my smart phone, which has an eight mega pixel camera. It does take pretty decent photos but it just doesn’t do well with sunsets and rises and in low light it is noisy. So here are my questions if I may. First, do the digital SLR cameras really capture color as well as a film camera? And second, I’ve been looking at the Canon digital s, primarily because I’ve been happy with my AE1, and also the Nikon’s and wondering which may be the better of the two?

Thanks

The AE-1 is a fine camera, I have several that I like to use myself. I took the jump to DSLR a ways back because I was tired of crappy pictures. When you compare a P&S camera or cellphone camera to a DSLR just remember this is the 1980 comparison to a Kodak Instamatic to a Pentax or Nikon or Canon...whatever. Not even close.

Now, since the opinions on this here thread range from digital is better than film and your Canon FD lenses will work fine on a DSLR Canon, I figured I ought to throw my equally worthless opinion in...

Canon FD lenses will NOT work on a Canon DSLR. The mount is different. There are third party adapters and I have 'heard' that some people have got them to work but the adapter I have doesn't...yet.

Nikon lenses of most any vintage except pre-AI lenses will work on almost every Nikon camera there is including digital. Depending on the model that manual lens may not meter (use a handheld or adjust after the picture is taken by looking at the LCD) and of course focus in manual.

Film is NOT better than digital and digital is DEFINITELY not better than film. They are two distinct media. Yes I think film has richer colors and greater detail and depth but I've taken some very nice digital shots.

The principles are the same. Shooting film I guarantee you will be more caring with each shot in composition and exposure. With digital it costs nothing to fill up an entire CF card with crappy images to find...the one. Do that with film and you'll break the bank in a hurry!! (Fuji Pro400@ $15 a 36 roll, developing and printing at $12)

 

[Derrel]

Nikon lenses of most any vintage except pre-AI lenses will work on almost every Nikon camera there is including digital.

The "baby Nikons" D40, D40x, D60, D3000-series, and D5000-series will accept unmodified pre-Ai lenses, as well as Ai, Ai-S, AF, AF-D, Af-i, AI-S P (both 45mm f/2.8 P- and 500mm f/4 P-Nikkors) and AF-S and AF-S G series lenses.

 

[timor]

Got a lovely pint of raspberry wheat beer in my hand

Raspberry wheat beer doesn't have for me enough dynamic range in taste, that's one, second, I prefer beer with much more megapixels. However ,, they go only up to 8-9, not 36. But then I can always interpolate them artificially using a bottle of strong algorithm ! :idea: !

+ 1000, million zillion and then some

:???: Are this numbers of megapixels you will need in the nearest future ? Zillion is a nice, round number...

 

[pez]

Nikon lenses of most any vintage except pre-AI lenses will work on almost every Nikon camera there is including digital.

The "baby Nikons" D40, D40x, D60, D3000-series, and D5000-series will accept unmodified pre-Ai lenses, as well as Ai, Ai-S, AF, AF-D, Af-i, AI-S P (both 45mm f/2.8 P- and 500mm f/4 P-Nikkors) and AF-S and AF-S G series lenses.

Awesome- I have a friend with a D5200 and she is in a quandary about this point. This thread on DP review is a little confusing, however.

 

[limr32 1]

So...seven pages and the OP's last activity was three days ago. Should we start the betting on whether or not he'll come back?

 

[timor]

So...seven pages and the OP's last activity was three days ago. Should we start the betting on whether or not he'll come back?

Well, if OP comes back and reads this discussion, which is now our discussion, he may go two ways. Or may recognise the technical expertise of Joe, derrel and others, who seriously and accurately answered his questions and he may see the passion for photography of the other folks. Or he may decide, that we are nuts and stay away from us. :no smile:

 

[The_Traveler]

Deciding that digital or film is 'better' because of some arbitrary contest at the extremes doesn't seem the right way to do it.

There are other questions that could be asked

Do the bulk of users (lets say the middle 65%) produce better photos in terms of image quality on average now as opposed to the bulk of users film days?

(Using the current film users as a comparison group is wrong because they self-select)​

Do the bulk of users (lets say the middle 65%) have more control now than as opposed to the bulk of users film days?

and a loaded question-

Is the barrier to full enjoyment of taking pictures higher or lower now?

 

[limr32 1]

No. There's only one question to be asked, and each person needs to answer for him or herself:

"Which one is better for me to fulfill ​my own creative vision."

Nothing else matters.