Taylor510ce
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Whats really killing the forum are these damn 10 page threads. WTF!
I will agree with a few things I saw mentioned, that I do not feel like going back and trying to actually quote, but I am not reading 10 pages of this. I skimmed maybe 5.
I think even the inexperienced are able to give C+C. It doesn't say that this is nothing but experts. If someone has been doing this for 6 months, and I have been doing it for a week, they should still be able to pass on some knowledge. The other thing is that much of what everyone says on here is opinion based. Many people do things different ways, have different beliefs, and have different reasons for pursuing photography. So if you come on here expecting that every response you get to a picture posting is the gospel, then you need a reality check. On the Flip side I think a lot of people on here are just posting for C+C because they want to hear an "Atta Boy". Its rare anymore that I actually see people courteous and thankful to the responses. It always turns into a bickering match amongst responders, or a big excuse fest by the OP. Also, would it kill people to start using the thanks button?
THE THANKS BUTTON IS OUR FRIEND!!! this is how you weed out the morons from the people that are actually useful. You are only allowed three thanks per day, so you have to actually CARE who you give them to. Its not just willy nilly. How about a sticky about this? This would cure the whole problem and act as a barometer of whether to listen to someone more than the other guy. ( again, thats assuming its a factual question as opposed to an opinionated one ).
The last thing I will touch on is the term "PROFESSIONAL."
While I tend to think of a professional being more a skill level/self-conduct type thing, the reality is, that a professional is anyone who gets paid to do a task. Sure some people IMO shouldn't be charging, but who the hell are we to tell them that they aren't entitled to be a "professional" photographer? Maybe thats the biggest problem with this forum, the sense of entitlement and the sense of superiority. There are many seasoned pros that could stand to learn a thing from time to time from a total newbie. Whether its a creative new technique, or a new technology they have yet to try. If someone is making money catering to low income families on a shoestring budget that need a wedding photog, then great. Good for them. They are helping the less fortunate, AND making a living off of it. Much less than I can say for most of the "so called experts" on here. Armani doesn't ***** because Kmart is having a sale on Lee Dungarees. Quality sells itself. So lets get off the high horse.
With that said, I don't want to come off as biting the hand that has fed me. I learned a LOT on this forum by some very smart and helpful people ( you know who you are ) but I think we can all ( including myself ) stand to step back a bit and assess how we can make this forum better. Whether its going downhill or not. There is always room for improvement.
I will agree with a few things I saw mentioned, that I do not feel like going back and trying to actually quote, but I am not reading 10 pages of this. I skimmed maybe 5.
I think even the inexperienced are able to give C+C. It doesn't say that this is nothing but experts. If someone has been doing this for 6 months, and I have been doing it for a week, they should still be able to pass on some knowledge. The other thing is that much of what everyone says on here is opinion based. Many people do things different ways, have different beliefs, and have different reasons for pursuing photography. So if you come on here expecting that every response you get to a picture posting is the gospel, then you need a reality check. On the Flip side I think a lot of people on here are just posting for C+C because they want to hear an "Atta Boy". Its rare anymore that I actually see people courteous and thankful to the responses. It always turns into a bickering match amongst responders, or a big excuse fest by the OP. Also, would it kill people to start using the thanks button?
THE THANKS BUTTON IS OUR FRIEND!!! this is how you weed out the morons from the people that are actually useful. You are only allowed three thanks per day, so you have to actually CARE who you give them to. Its not just willy nilly. How about a sticky about this? This would cure the whole problem and act as a barometer of whether to listen to someone more than the other guy. ( again, thats assuming its a factual question as opposed to an opinionated one ).
The last thing I will touch on is the term "PROFESSIONAL."
While I tend to think of a professional being more a skill level/self-conduct type thing, the reality is, that a professional is anyone who gets paid to do a task. Sure some people IMO shouldn't be charging, but who the hell are we to tell them that they aren't entitled to be a "professional" photographer? Maybe thats the biggest problem with this forum, the sense of entitlement and the sense of superiority. There are many seasoned pros that could stand to learn a thing from time to time from a total newbie. Whether its a creative new technique, or a new technology they have yet to try. If someone is making money catering to low income families on a shoestring budget that need a wedding photog, then great. Good for them. They are helping the less fortunate, AND making a living off of it. Much less than I can say for most of the "so called experts" on here. Armani doesn't ***** because Kmart is having a sale on Lee Dungarees. Quality sells itself. So lets get off the high horse.
With that said, I don't want to come off as biting the hand that has fed me. I learned a LOT on this forum by some very smart and helpful people ( you know who you are ) but I think we can all ( including myself ) stand to step back a bit and assess how we can make this forum better. Whether its going downhill or not. There is always room for improvement.