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Pixmedic, did you just have a ton of money and buy that all at once? Take out a loan? Or slowly build up to that? That's a lot of stuff, and I'd really love to have that and some point, but right now it's not in my budget.

I'm really wondering how other photographers do it. I've thought about taking out a loan, but everyone has told me not to do that until the business grows enough to justify the expenses. I go back and forth though because I feel like I could have better business with more equipment. :/
 
Yeah, I get what you're saying. He's a GREAT attorney, but he's a family friend and filed my LLC as a favor. He wasn't super helpful in answering questions, I'm sure because he wasn't being paid. I will definitely start checking into insurance now. Thanks!

... I don't feel quite as guilty taking on weddings right now.
Do you at least have insurance, especially E&O?
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If your attorney told you that you do not need insurance, GET A NEW ATTORNEY! I'm not especially familiar with the differences between US and Canadian incorporation law, but they are more-or-less similar and while forming an LLC may protect your personal assets, it's not an iron-clad guarentee either.

What would be the ramifications to you personally, your business and your family & possessions if your studio light started a fire at a wedding venue which resulted in injury/death to guests, damage to the venue, and loss of all images?[/QUOTE]
 
Another question, where do you put the lights at weddings? I guess because I've done smaller weddings, I can't imagine where I would have put them without them being in the way.
 
Pixmedic, did you just have a ton of money and buy that all at once? Take out a loan? Or slowly build up to that? That's a lot of stuff, and I'd really love to have that and some point, but right now it's not in my budget.

I'm really wondering how other photographers do it. I've thought about taking out a loan, but everyone has told me not to do that until the business grows enough to justify the expenses. I go back and forth though because I feel like I could have better business with more equipment. :/

my wife "interned" with a portrait and wedding photographer for a few years. He had a studio not too far from where we lived and he was a friend of the family.
we eventually bought some of his gear when he upgraded (he gave us a good deal) and we built from there.
my wife second shot weddings years before she ever did one on here own, and I only second shoot. I dont do anything but formal portraits myself.
we didn't do any wedding work on our own until we had most of that gear.
 
Ultimately camera gear is just tools and like any tool, you want to select the right one for the job. Good camera gear also doesn't mean that you'll get great photos. That's your responsibility. The camera merely takes a picture but you're the one that makes a picture. What I'm basically saying is that the equipment doesn't define the photographer.

Having said that, it does make a photographer's job easier and enable you to push the boundaries or work in more challenging lighting locations. While others may be shooting with non-professional equipment in your state, they also may be shooting weddings in well lit venues. In nominal lighting conditions even old entry level cameras will still hold their own. That doesn't mean at some point in the future those same photographers won't come unstuck.

I'll give you a real life example of what happened to me. I shot a wedding for a family member a few years ago. I'd only been into photography about a year or so at the time and despite my protests, they wanted me to do it just for sentimental reasons. Reluctantly I said okay. The location was a chapel that was beautifully lit, with light pouring in from both sides. My old Nikon D90 was certainly up to the task, so I was more relaxed about shooting there. However, on the day of the wedding, we arrived at the venue only to be told that the night before, thieves had stolen the lead from roof and water had been pouring in, making the chapel unusable and unsafe. Just what you want to hear!

All was not lost, at least as far as the wedding was concerned. They had a different chapel in another part of the building. It originally belonged to Anne Of Cleves, one of Henry VIII's wives. Bearing in mind that the building dated back to the 16th century and everybody apparently was a Munchkin by today's standards, I was faced with very low ceilings. To make matters worse, the ceilings had heavy oak beams every 3ft, which formed little square enclaves. This resulted in any flash being fired at the ceiling, being contained in those enclaves and not traveling where I needed it.

The entire room was lit by 3 very old fluorescent strip bulbs that were throwing out a 50w of light each - and that's probably being a bit generous with the wattage. 2 small windows lined a wall in the room. This would have been some small saving grace if it weren't for the fact a 6ft flint wall was directly opposite it and blocking out the majority of what little external light there was. It was also late December at about 2.30pm, on a grey day and the light was fading fast. To make matters worse, the guy performing the ceremony told me that flash was not permitted during it. I could have punched him!

There I was with a Nikon D90, in the most poorly lit room you can imagine. I could have cried. I had to raise the ISO up to 6400 and rest the camera on the Best man's shoulder to stabilize it. I was shooting a Tokina 28-80 f/2.8D at the time, which was soft wide open anyway. Coupled with the ISO6400, the resulting image quality was utter garbage. Needless to say, that kind of put me off doing weddings.

However, the example stands testament to what can happen through no fault of your own and even scoping a venue out prior, so you know what to encounter. Had the roof not been stolen off the building the night before, my photos would have turned out okay. At the last minute, that venue got scrapped and I got dropped in the proverbial manure and I wasn't coming up smelling like roses. Had that of been a paid event, I would have been in serious trouble. I'd of had nothing to present to the client. My reputation could have been ruined. I could have been sued. I could have had lovely composition and captured some great moments (I didn't as I pretty much sucked at that point in time lol) but the limited low light performance of the D90 was woefully not up to the job.
 
Another question, where do you put the lights at weddings? I guess because I've done smaller weddings, I can't imagine where I would have put them without them being in the way.

we usually only use the off camera lights for formal pictures before and/or after the ceremony.
depending on the reception venue, we may use a flash on camera there too either with a rogue flashbender for bounce or a small softbox.
 
Ultimately camera gear is just tools and like any tool, you want to select the right one for the job. Good camera gear also doesn't mean that you'll get great photos. That's your responsibility. The camera merely takes a picture but you're the one that makes a picture. What I'm basically saying is that the equipment doesn't define the photographer.

Having said that, it does make a photographer's job easier and enable you to push the boundaries or work in more challenging lighting locations. While others may be shooting with non-professional equipment in your state, they also may be shooting weddings in well lit venues. In nominal lighting conditions even old entry level cameras will still hold their own. That doesn't mean at some point in the future those same photographers won't come unstuck.

I'll give you a real life example of what happened to me. I shot a wedding for a family member a few years ago. I'd only been into photography about a year or so at the time and despite my protests, they wanted me to do it just for sentimental reasons. Reluctantly I said okay. The location was a chapel that was beautifully lit, with light pouring in from both sides. My old Nikon D90 was certainly up to the task, so I was more relaxed about shooting there. However, on the day of the wedding, we arrived at the venue only to be told that the night before, thieves had stolen the lead from roof and water had been pouring in, making the chapel unusable and unsafe. Just what you want to hear!

All was not lost, at least as far as the wedding was concerned. They had a different chapel in another part of the building. It originally belonged to Anne Of Cleves, one of Henry VIII's wives. Bearing in mind that the building dated back to the 16th century and everybody apparently was a Munchkin by today's standards, I was faced with very low ceilings. To make matters worse, the ceilings had heavy oak beams every 3ft, which formed little square enclaves. This resulted in any flash being fired at the ceiling, being contained in those enclaves and not traveling where I needed it.

The entire room was lit by 3 very old fluorescent strip bulbs that were throwing out a 50w of light each - and that's probably being a bit generous with the wattage. 2 small windows lined a wall in the room. This would have been some small saving grace if it weren't for the fact a 6ft flint wall was directly opposite it and blocking out the majority of what little external light there was. It was also late December at about 2.30pm, on a grey day and the light was fading fast. To make matters worse, the guy performing the ceremony told me that flash was not permitted during it. I could have punched him!

There I was with a Nikon D90, in the most poorly lit room you can imagine. I could have cried. I had to raise the ISO up to 6400 and rest the camera on the Best man's shoulder to stabilize it. I was shooting a Tokina 28-80 f/2.8D at the time, which was soft wide open anyway. Coupled with the ISO6400, the resulting image quality was utter garbage. Needless to say, that kind of put me off doing weddings.

However, the example stands testament to what can happen through no fault of your own and even scoping a venue out prior, so you know what to encounter. Had the roof not been stolen off the building the night before, my photos would have turned out okay. At the last minute, that venue got scrapped and I got dropped in the proverbial manure and I wasn't coming up smelling like roses. Had that of been a paid event, I would have been in serious trouble. I'd of had nothing to present to the client. My reputation could have been ruined. I could have been sued. I could have had lovely composition and captured some great moments (I didn't as I pretty much sucked at that point in time lol) but the limited low light performance of the D90 was woefully not up to the job.


we have had cameras fail, flashes fail, batteries fail...all at weddings. The equipment failures always seem to be at weddings...
thankfully, between having backups of everything, and me running around making sure the wife has working equipment...we haven't had any real disasters yet...(knocks on wood)
 
That made me want to cry even thinking about it. I can not even imagine.


Ultimately camera gear is just tools and like any tool, you want to select the right one for the job. Good camera gear also doesn't mean that you'll get great photos. That's your responsibility. The camera merely takes a picture but you're the one that makes a picture. What I'm basically saying is that the equipment doesn't define the photographer.

Having said that, it does make a photographer's job easier and enable you to push the boundaries or work in more challenging lighting locations. While others may be shooting with non-professional equipment in your state, they also may be shooting weddings in well lit venues. In nominal lighting conditions even old entry level cameras will still hold their own. That doesn't mean at some point in the future those same photographers won't come unstuck.

I'll give you a real life example of what happened to me. I shot a wedding for a family member a few years ago. I'd only been into photography about a year or so at the time and despite my protests, they wanted me to do it just for sentimental reasons. Reluctantly I said okay. The location was a chapel that was beautifully lit, with light pouring in from both sides. My old Nikon D90 was certainly up to the task, so I was more relaxed about shooting there. However, on the day of the wedding, we arrived at the venue only to be told that the night before, thieves had stolen the lead from roof and water had been pouring in, making the chapel unusable and unsafe. Just what you want to hear!

All was not lost, at least as far as the wedding was concerned. They had a different chapel in another part of the building. It originally belonged to Anne Of Cleves, one of Henry VIII's wives. Bearing in mind that the building dated back to the 16th century and everybody apparently was a Munchkin by today's standards, I was faced with very low ceilings. To make matters worse, the ceilings had heavy oak beams every 3ft, which formed little square enclaves. This resulted in any flash being fired at the ceiling, being contained in those enclaves and not traveling where I needed it.

The entire room was lit by 3 very old fluorescent strip bulbs that were throwing out a 50w of light each - and that's probably being a bit generous with the wattage. 2 small windows lined a wall in the room. This would have been some small saving grace if it weren't for the fact a 6ft flint wall was directly opposite it and blocking out the majority of what little external light there was. It was also late December at about 2.30pm, on a grey day and the light was fading fast. To make matters worse, the guy performing the ceremony told me that flash was not permitted during it. I could have punched him!

There I was with a Nikon D90, in the most poorly lit room you can imagine. I could have cried. I had to raise the ISO up to 6400 and rest the camera on the Best man's shoulder to stabilize it. I was shooting a Tokina 28-80 f/2.8D at the time, which was soft wide open anyway. Coupled with the ISO6400, the resulting image quality was utter garbage. Needless to say, that kind of put me off doing weddings.

However, the example stands testament to what can happen through no fault of your own and even scoping a venue out prior, so you know what to encounter. Had the roof not been stolen off the building the night before, my photos would have turned out okay. At the last minute, that venue got scrapped and I got dropped in the proverbial manure and I wasn't coming up smelling like roses. Had that of been a paid event, I would have been in serious trouble. I'd of had nothing to present to the client. My reputation could have been ruined. I could have been sued. I could have had lovely composition and captured some great moments (I didn't as I pretty much sucked at that point in time lol) but the limited low light performance of the D90 was woefully not up to the job.
 
People on here have given you some great suggestion. Most of them have years of experience and shoot for money. I would suggest that you go to their profile page and follow the link to their pictures. This will give you an idea where your pictures stand in comparison to theirs. I think seeing other members work is very enlightening.
 
Yes, it is. This forum has helped me learn a lot about areas I need to improve. Before I started reading here, I thought my photos were great. Compared to other local photographers, they're definitely equal, if not better. All of my clients have been happy. I would have thought I was good to go, haha. However, looking at others on here, I know I have a lot of room to improve and can make my clients even happier.

People on here have given you some great suggestion. Most of them have years of experience and shoot for money. I would suggest that you go to their profile page and follow the link to their pictures. This will give you an idea where your pictures stand in comparison to theirs. I think seeing others members work is very enlightening.
 
Granted it's not your every day scenario but, it only takes one occasion like that to land you with a law suit or a badly damaged reputation. Most work like that comes from word of mouth and if someone is spreading the word that you ruined the photos of their big day, you can kiss goodbye to a large percentage of new business.

What I would suggest you do is stick to the existing genres you already do. You can also undertake posed wedding photography. Some couples want to wear their wedding attire in a nice location for some romantic or artsy shots after the fact. This is perfectly safe, as you can always re-shoot if the worst happens, well apart from trashing the dress or getting the bride anywhere near a water source and her falling in and drowning, as happened to one photographer in the US last year, if I recall correctly.

Always err on the side of caution and only ever take calculated risks. Aim to save up enough money doing what you already do and perhaps expand into other areas like the post-wedding shoots. Then when you have the funds, add the FF camera and 70-200mm. Alternatively, hire a FF camera for the day and always have a backup. As the old saying goes - Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
 
You can shoot with what you have and aim for the sub $1,000 budget weddings. There are couples out there who are unwilling to pay the usual $2,500 to $3,000 a regular Wedding photographer would charge and you can cater to them.

I've moved away from shooting weddings but my gear list was
D810 and D700
24-70/2.8
70-200/2.8
105/2.8 macro
50/1.4

2x SB600
1x SB800

and vertical grips and spare batteries and about 10 compactflash cards
 
I've been wanting to buy an off camera flash for awhile because I've definitely struggled some with balancing the exposure outside. I have no clue what the difference is in TTL and manual, but I can research that

But didn't you write that you have purchased two Alien Bees? Why do you think you have to purchase something more that those?

FYI: PCB makes an RF remote.
 
AKUK; I would have clicked on the "sympathy" button had there been one.
 

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