Why am I so Annoyed...can someone knock some sense into me? Please!

[nokili]

The story:

I have a friend, she wants to break into modeling.

I tell her that I am not a "people" photographer. She rides off into the sunset and finds someone else.

She comes back (very upset) and explains that she hates the photos, but signed a model release so she can't "make" the "photographer" take down the photos. He wants the exposure to his portfolio.

I say SURELY they can't be THAT bad....

Well Courtney - a set on Flickr

Some of them are ok...at least the ones outside...but the studio ones...I can't believe he wants to post those in his portfolio.

I know this isn't my problem, but I feel slightly guilty about not warning her about those select few within the community that don't care about learning the basics. Yes she should have asked for HIS portfolio before signing anything...but well too little too late.

I am going to attempt to help her now, take some shots of here that are more flattering...but can you all do me a HUGE favor? Take a look at those photos...there...and let me know if her and I are being OVER critical??

I need a 3rd party (or a few) to let me know if I'm crazy?


This one (Courtney Hughes IV 267_BW | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ) in particular blows my mind

 

[clanthar]

Woah! They are that bad, but you got to admit that doing the saddle and the railroad tracks together in the same set is so incredibly creative -- I mean, who could have thought that up -- brilliant!

 

[nokili]

Woah! They are that bad, but you got to admit that doing the saddle and the railroad tracks together in the same set is so incredibly creative -- I mean, who could have thought that up -- brilliant!

Ha!

I just like the black dress, backgound, and balloons....uhhh HELLO

 

[lyonsroar]

Courtney Hughes IV 319 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I like this one!

Courtney Hughes II 177 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

and this one...


Bad news bears. Probably would have been better off with you...

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

The story:

I am going to attempt to help her now, take some shots of here that are more flattering...

Oooh! A photography showdown!!!

 

[nokili]

Hahahah no no no. I am NOT a pro at portraits by any means...BUT i do understand the basics of light...i mean COME ON!

If you don't have the correct lighting...then DO IT OUTSIDE WTF ERG FACE lol

Well it's nice to know that I'm not insane..

Also..his name is Martini Mike...nice

 

[nokili]

Courtney Hughes IV 319 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I like this one!

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I feel so bad for her I mean these are his forever...

AND HE WON'T GIVE HER THE RAWS....WTF

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

I anxiously await the results of your shoot.

 

[clanthar]

This one (Courtney Hughes IV 267_BW | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ) in particular blows my mind

Martini Mike! I knew I recognized this image; it's breakfast at Tiffany's.

 

[Robin Usagani]

Hahah bitter, this reminds me of one of my posts when I talked **** about other photog I shot with for an e-session and you gave me a hard time. Good ol time.

The story:

I am going to attempt to help her now, take some shots of here that are more flattering...

Oooh! A photography showdown!!!

 

[nokili]

I anxiously await the results of your shoot.

I nervously await my results lol.

Not saying that I am perfect...i don't claim to be...I think that is more my annoyance... I don't pretend to be anything more than amatuer. Especially at modeling/portraits/people in general. I can attempt...and we can work together to figure it out...but come on if you say you are a duck BE a duck...lol

I will be (obviously I'll need it) posting the "results" of my shoot with her as soon as we have it.

Guilt is really the only reason I have agreed to try lol

 

[Robin Usagani]

Just tell her to talk to the photog and tell him which photos she hates. I'm sure he'll take it down.

 

[nokili]

Just tell her to talk to the photog and tell him which photos she hates. I'm sure he'll take it down.

She did. He says it's his best work, his friends (who are pros) like them, and he needs them for his portfolio.

 

[Shadowbox]

I recommend for her shoot that you do not have her in such heavy makeup. Most models have portfolio's which show them without makeup, and in natural makeup. They can include 'shoot' type photos, I would recommend fashion centered, more than poses. These pictures look like poses and don't sell the props at all. The photographer reminds me of someone who was in the fetish scene and carried that over with him. Perhaps not, but it gives me that vibe. Suckers and balloons relates to children, his comment about her long legs etc.. all lead me to believe this. I suggest that you do a search on model portfolio's if that is her true motivation, because these photos of her in this heavy make up will not go over well at any modeling agency. How do I know? Tyra Banks, duh lol

 

[nokili]

I recommend for her shoot that you do not have her in such heavy makeup. Most models have portfolio's which show them without makeup, and in natural makeup. They can include 'shoot' type photos, I would recommend fashion centered, more than poses. These pictures look like poses and don't sell the props at all. The photographer reminds me of someone who was in the fetish scene and carried that over with him. Perhaps not, but it gives me that vibe. Suckers and balloons relates to children, his comment about her long legs etc.. all lead me to believe this. I suggest that you do a search on model portfolio's if that is her true motivation, because these photos of her in this heavy make up will not go over well at any modeling agency. How do I know? Tyra Banks, duh lol

Ha! Thanks for the tips Shadow

I was thinking along the more natural, well lit way also!

I agree that these aren't something she would be putting in her portfolio...and not mine either to be honest. Like I said I am trying to make her feel a little better