Ya! Dude!

[table1349]

It is against the law in virtually any US municipality to discharge a firearm within the city limits, except in the case of LEGAL use of force...even "firing a warning shot" has landed people in jail and court...blasting an $1,800 drone in the airspace above one's home would probably fall into the "criminal" spectrum, and is probably a catch-all charge designed to encompass illegal discharge of a firearm, willful destruction of private property, menacing of the men who owned the drone and who showed up, and recklessly endangering the town/neighbors. As far as his claim that #8 birdshot is harmless...not so much when it rains down...there are over 500 pellets in each average 12-gauge low-base load of 8's...and he shot three times into the air--enough shot to blind some kid six to ten blocks away out playing, or somebody just walking along. Our Kentucky genius threatened people with being shot, while wearing an openly carried pistol...that is menacing. All in all, a series of criminal acts, each with legal penalties.

His next logical step: Getting out his scope-sighted .300 Win Magnum deer rifle and firing shots at a news helicopter...you know, because it was "hu'vrin!"

I quite agree with recklessness of shooting at the drone, and don't get the shooter's distinction between shooting a 22 and the buckshot. As I learned in high school physics, whatever is shot upward will slow down due to gravity until at its apex it will have all its kinetic energy converted to potential energy. Then it starts down an all that potential energy is converted kinetic energy. In other words, it comes down basically as fast as it went up (a little energy is lost due to air friction). That buckshot can do damage and hurt innocent people. I think of this lesson in physics whenever I see read about people celebrating by shooting guns in the air. What do they think happens to the bullets?

Sorry, but terminal velocity will keep the falling shot from reaching anywhere near the initial velocity it had when it left the barrel of the shotgun.

A 30-06 fired up into the air will have an initial velocity of 2,900 feet per second when it leaves the rifle barrel. A .30 caliber rounds will reach terminal velocities of 300 feet per second on descent.

Since bullets almost never fall straight down (long axis vertical) would the difference in drag realative to a round object be significant? Also would the buckshot have a smaller area? I thought both were true, but the last gun I fired was my Red Rider pump action BB gun.

Shot is not unlike the round-ball used in muzzle loaders. Thing about the roundball vs the more aerodynamic bullet, the curvature of the ball or shot causes a higher rage of drag. If you compare the velocity charts over various ranges from the muzzle of the weapon you will see that the ball looses velocity much more rapidly then the cylindrical bullet.

 

[snerd]

Speaking of criminality; what would we call taking video of the girl sunbathing? Assuming she was wearing a swim suit, it would not be classified as child pornography, but what about just a video? Is that legal, considering that she had the expectation of privacy in her own backyard?

In the case of the drone we're discussing here, now we have the other side of the story. Flyer says he wasn't over the shooter's property, but was looking towards another house. And I can tell you, from first-hand experience, at 250' feet altitude, no photo or video will show you "anything" identifiable about "any" person or object of that size. The shooter overreacted. It's called vigilante justice, and it's frowned upon because as in the case here, he had no clue what the flyer was "actually" doing. He "assumed" a scenario, then took violent action. Strange that some here seem to approve of that. But again I state my personal preference...................... the owner, nor "anyone", should fly these things over populated neighborhoods. Why go looking for trouble?!

"......... The drone's owner, David Boggs, says the drone wasn't hovering low over anyone's property, showing flight tracking data to local media that indicates an altitude of more than 250 feet. And he says he wasn't trying to invade anyone's privacy.

"No. 1, I was having fun with my friends and family," Boggs tells WDRB, adding that he was trying out the drone he had only recently bought. He said he was trying to film the house of a friend who lives in the area but was visiting Las Vegas.

"Now the drone is getting a bad name because the Drone slayer made a bad decision and went skeet shooting in a neighborhood," Boggs told local WHAS Channel 11................"

Dispute Emerges Over Drone Shot Down By Kentucky Man The Two-Way NPR

 

[The_Traveler]

External Ballistics - Hornady Manufacturing Inc

 

[table1349]

Speaking of criminality; what would we call taking video of the girl sunbathing? Assuming she was wearing a swim suit, it would not be classified as child pornography, but what about just a video? Is that legal, considering that she had the expectation of privacy in her own backyard?

Funny thing about the concept of pedophelia. From my experience over 30+ years virtually every pedophile we arrested had underwear catalogs depicting children in underwear and/or swimsuits. Most also had copies of Jock Sturges's books. The children, most underage and often prepubescent girls, were nude but not in obvious sexual positions or actions.

I'm not saying that the owner of the drone is a pedophile but the fact that the girl had on a swimsuit has no bearing on whether she could be an object of sexual stimulation to a pedophile.

 

[table1349]

Speaking of criminality; what would we call taking video of the girl sunbathing? Assuming she was wearing a swim suit, it would not be classified as child pornography, but what about just a video? Is that legal, considering that she had the expectation of privacy in her own backyard?

In the case of the drone we're discussing here, now we have the other side of the story. Flyer says he wasn't over the shooter's property, but was looking towards another house. And I can tell you, from first-hand experience, at 250' feet altitude, no photo or video will show you "anything" identifiable about "any" person or object of that size. The shooter overreacted. It's called vigilante justice, and it's frowned upon because as in the case here, he had no clue what the flyer was "actually" doing. He "assumed" a scenario, then took violent action. Strange that some here seem to approve of that. But again I state my personal preference...................... the owner, nor "anyone", should fly these things over populated neighborhoods. Why go looking for trouble?!

"......... The drone's owner, David Boggs, says the drone wasn't hovering low over anyone's property, showing flight tracking data to local media that indicates an altitude of more than 250 feet. And he says he wasn't trying to invade anyone's privacy.

"No. 1, I was having fun with my friends and family," Boggs tells WDRB, adding that he was trying out the drone he had only recently bought. He said he was trying to film the house of a friend who lives in the area but was visiting Las Vegas.

"Now the drone is getting a bad name because the Drone slayer made a bad decision and went skeet shooting in a neighborhood," Boggs told local WHAS Channel 11................"

Dispute Emerges Over Drone Shot Down By Kentucky Man The Two-Way NPR

From the article you linked to: "Both Boggs and Merideth say they want to see the video that the drone captured but neither seems to know what happened to the memory card inside the drone that saved the video."

I'm guessing that the dentist that shot Cecil the lion is hiding the memory card as well.

 

[Designer]

Two different points of view:

The first story, written from the point of view of a journalist (free press) has the property owner as the dangerous gun-wielding saboteur who not only shoots private property out of the air, but apparently can do so at a height of over 250 feet. Quite remarkable shooting, and extraordinarily powerful ballistics.

The second version has that the property owner watched as the drone CAME DOWN and hovered over his back deck. No estimate of the height in that story.

Then there is the seemingly unrelated bit about the drone pilot coming to confront the man WITH THREE FRIENDS, which is a clear attempt to cause or threaten physical harm to the property owner. Why do you suppose he felt as though he needed three friends to go with him?

I've known for years that there are usually two (or more) versions of the same incident.

Now I'm all for a free press, and that includes taking pictures of anybody in public, but this is not the case.

 

[snerd]

Speaking of criminality; what would we call taking video of the girl sunbathing? Assuming she was wearing a swim suit, it would not be classified as child pornography, but what about just a video? Is that legal, considering that she had the expectation of privacy in her own backyard?

In the case of the drone we're discussing here, now we have the other side of the story. Flyer says he wasn't over the shooter's property, but was looking towards another house. And I can tell you, from first-hand experience, at 250' feet altitude, no photo or video will show you "anything" identifiable about "any" person or object of that size. The shooter overreacted. It's called vigilante justice, and it's frowned upon because as in the case here, he had no clue what the flyer was "actually" doing. He "assumed" a scenario, then took violent action. Strange that some here seem to approve of that. But again I state my personal preference...................... the owner, nor "anyone", should fly these things over populated neighborhoods. Why go looking for trouble?!

"......... The drone's owner, David Boggs, says the drone wasn't hovering low over anyone's property, showing flight tracking data to local media that indicates an altitude of more than 250 feet. And he says he wasn't trying to invade anyone's privacy.

"No. 1, I was having fun with my friends and family," Boggs tells WDRB, adding that he was trying out the drone he had only recently bought. He said he was trying to film the house of a friend who lives in the area but was visiting Las Vegas.

"Now the drone is getting a bad name because the Drone slayer made a bad decision and went skeet shooting in a neighborhood," Boggs told local WHAS Channel 11................"

Dispute Emerges Over Drone Shot Down By Kentucky Man The Two-Way NPR

From the article you linked to: "Both Boggs and Merideth say they want to see the video that the drone captured but neither seems to know what happened to the memory card inside the drone that saved the video."

I'm guessing that the dentist that shot Cecil the lion is hiding the memory card as well.

My strategy........................... I'll wait until all of the evidence is in, then make up my mind. I just thought I'd try countering some of the knee-jerk, negative reactions here, based on nothing but hearsay. I'm out.

 

[Designer]

From the article you linked to: "Both Boggs and Merideth say they want to see the video that the drone captured but neither seems to know what happened to the memory card inside the drone that saved the video."

Uh-huh. The memory card cannot be found. Right.

 

[tirediron]

One excellent method to resolve the issue........Doves. Raise doves, lots of doves. Ever see a flock of doves taking off. Like herding chickens. A natural deterrent. The turbulence they would create could give the little bugger a wonderful ride.

Even better a small AVE (Atmospheric Vortex Engine). Nothing like a small invisible tornado like spiral of air to give the little bugger a dizzying ride.

I'd take that to the next level; never mind doves, go for Canada geese. If one of them can bring down a commercial airliner, imagine what a flock would do to a drone?

 

[table1349]

Maybe this is just an upgrade to the age old sport.........

 

[table1349]

A startling revelation has come in this case. It has recently been learned that Merideth was a graduate of the Dick Cheney school of shooting and that the drone had a striking resemblance to Harry Whittington. Meredith assumed that he was just shooting at another lawyer and as such was justified. Case Dismissed.

 

[snerd]

And I can always change my mind. I just went to fetch my mail, the apartment complex swimming pool is packed with babes! I'm charging my drone batteries as I type!

 

[table1349]

And I can always change my mind. I just went to fetch my mail, the apartment complex swimming pool is packed with babes! I'm charging my drone batteries as I type!

Is this yours???

 

[snerd]

And I can always change my mind. I just went to fetch my mail, the apartment complex swimming pool is packed with babes! I'm charging my drone batteries as I type!

Is this yours???

I kept trying to hit the the Play button before realizing it was a photo lol!

 

[The_Traveler]

The drone at ~80 yards (250 feet) off the ground and some unknown deflection is one hell of a lucky shot with a shotgun.