You Are Not A Photographer...

e.rose · Mar 15, 2011

Kyna said:
I wasn't calling you an ass

Still... I've been called an ass many times. :biglaugh:

Kyna said:
but just mean, you suck criticism isn't really constructive at all.

True enough. :lol:

But even if the comments on these blogs *were* constructive... someone somewhere (again, I don't mean you) would be crying about how mean it is. :lol:

Kyna · Mar 15, 2011

Agreed

I just think there's a happy medium somewhere.

PhotoWrangler · Mar 15, 2011

Kyna said:
I wasn't calling you an ass I haven't seen any posts from you that come off as totally mean. You give criticism with humor that is fine..........but just mean, you suck criticism isn't really constructive at all.

Perhaps the problem isn't with what people say - perhaps its the way you read and interpret it. Juss sayin....

Kyna · Mar 15, 2011

That is true and applies to both sides

But telling someone to stop pissing on your parade can only be interpreted in one way

PhotoWrangler · Mar 15, 2011

Kyna said:
That is true and applies to both sides But telling someone to stop pissing on your parade can only be interpreted in one way

No it can't. If we'd have been having the conversation in person, I would have told you the same thing with a smile on my face, and in a joking manner. But you can't see that, or interpret it that way by the words on the screen. And unfortunately, I don't use emoticons enough, to help convey the manner in which I say things.

Kyna · Mar 15, 2011

True true

I can agree to disagree

I just don't like being attacked for disagreeing. Moving on with life!

Derrel · Mar 15, 2011

Lots of posts, very little advancement of the discussion, mostly due to a couple of newcomers who cannot seem to accept that "some" older, more-experienced people have a very dim view of beginners who charge money and who are really not very capable shooters...but then again, the newcomers seem to forget that this is perhaps THE main area of division in photography these days---those who know and understand the "old-school" type of photography (apprenticing, film, prints, studios,etc.) and those who are more familiar, or ONLY familiar with the new paradigm of $500 d-slr+backgrounds+ 2 lights = professional side business, watermarks, and a Facebook storefront.

Kind of like the old parent/child arguments about hair,fashion,and music,eh? The paradigms, multiple, have changed!!!!

ann · Mar 15, 2011

i find the images very sad, sad that someone has posted them thinking they are good, sad to think that someone wants to be paid for the work and sad for those who possed thinking they would get professional work. Or, perhaps they knew the work wasn't professional and didn't care. Regardless, it is a sad state of affairs.

Derrel · Mar 15, 2011

Ann, I've missed reading your replies to posts. I haven't been around here as much the past few months as I used to be, and apparently you haven't either. I sure appreciate your point of view about so many aspects of photography. Hope we'll see you around here more frequently than we did this winter.

chammer · Mar 15, 2011

Ahh Derrel... still my favorite.

ann: I've only briefly browsed that site, but to be honest my local CraigsList is in worse shape. Although, this could be the case with CraigsList in general. One ad that's been running here lately is about a new guy/girl that just got their camera and is "only charging $50!" while he/she learns and builds their portfolio. Great! Let me pay you for playing with your new hobby of the month. I honestly don't know how people get away with that crap.

ann · Mar 16, 2011

Derrel, thanks for the kind words. I have been around, just haven't had much to say. :meh:

PhotoWrangler · Mar 16, 2011

chammer said:
One ad that's been running here lately is about a new guy/girl that just got their camera and is "only charging $50!" while he/she learns and builds their portfolio. Great! Let me pay you for playing with your new hobby of the month. I honestly don't know how people get away with that crap.

From our 'competitions' website:

"I believe photography is about more than the relationship between light and shadows. There's an undeniable heart connection between a photographer and their images. This connection is essential to create images that are authentic and awe inspiring."

I'm fairly positive that photography is ALL about light and shadows, for without them, there is no photograph.

Our 'competition' charges $50 for an unlimited session, with unlimited locations, unlimited 'poses', and unlimited photos on a disc. The pp skills on these photos look as if they used the LARGE crayons, and lets just say that pop up flashes are the 'in' thing for them.

Did I also mention that our 'competition' chose a name that is basically our studio name with a number at the end? So if our studio is ABC Studios, hers is ABC2 Studios. Thankfully her crayola wonders haven't made it out of our fair city....

12sndsgood · Mar 16, 2011

im glad im not a pro. means i can avoid most of the internet bitching on here.

ghache · Mar 16, 2011

ChristopherCoy said:
chammer said:

One ad that's been running here lately is about a new guy/girl that just got their camera and is "only charging $50!" while he/she learns and builds their portfolio. Great! Let me pay you for playing with your new hobby of the month. I honestly don't know how people get away with that crap.

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From our 'competitions' website:

"I believe photography is about more than the relationship between light and shadows. There's an undeniable heart connection between a photographer and their images. This connection is essential to create images that are authentic and awe inspiring."

I'm fairly positive that photography is ALL about light and shadows, for without them, there is no photograph.

Our 'competition' charges $50 for an unlimited session, with unlimited locations, unlimited 'poses', and unlimited photos on a disc. The pp skills on these photos look as if they used the LARGE crayons, and lets just say that pop up flashes are the 'in' thing for them.

Did I also mention that our 'competition' chose a name that is basically our studio name with a number at the end? So if our studio is ABC Studios, hers is ABC2 Studios. Thankfully her crayola wonders haven't made it out of our fair city....