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A few shots from Maine this weekend

I live in Maine and I can't see any photos :(

I deleted them. I don't think I'll be submitting any more pics on this site.

Straighten your camera, it will save you the hassle of getting a land mover.


Interesting.. because the bubble level on my tripod that I used to take all the images was centered. Very weird. Maybe that's wrong too.


Horizons in pictures should be and look straight, your's did not look straight, at all. You should straighten it in post and the picture would be much more visually pleasing.

Mine didn't look straight to you, to the bubble level they looked straight, to me and the 17 people who have purchased the picture on my other website, they looked straight to them, or they understand that photography is an art form and not everything has to form into a form of rules. Hence why settings on cameras exist. So you can manipulate them to your liking. I'm not sure how many lakes you have been to, however most of them are not circles, they have ridges, and hills on the banks, and trees that make the horizon lines not straight, they also (as in this case) might be about half a mile wide to your left side, and 3/4 of a mile wide to your right. The bubble level was straight, it was on a tripod.
 
If the bubble level was straight on the tripod, it doesn't mean it is straight. Is the path flat and smooth? Are there rocks and leaves on the path?

Real photographers make ugly things look beautiful. That's what makes it hard being a professional photographer.
 
If the bubble level was straight on the tripod, it doesn't mean it is straight. Is the path flat and smooth? Are there rocks and leaves on the path?

Real photographers make ugly things look beautiful. That's what makes it hard being a professional photographer.

There were no paths in view. The lake cut off the bottom, the sides were framed by trees. Then there was a dock on the right, some leaves hanging from a tree over the dock. The far side of the lake was half covered in fog.
 
I think what homelessboy meant was to ask if the tripod was on a path that had rocks and leaves on it, not if there was a path in the picture.
 
If the bubble level was straight on the tripod, it doesn't mean it is straight. Is the path flat and smooth? Are there rocks and leaves on the path?

Real photographers make ugly things look beautiful. That's what makes it hard being a professional photographer.

There were no paths in view. The lake cut off the bottom, the sides were framed by trees. Then there was a dock on the right, some leaves hanging from a tree over the dock. The far side of the lake was half covered in fog.

I think homeless boy was speaking metaphorically.. :) but who knows for sure....
 
I live in Maine and I can't see any photos :(

I deleted them. I don't think I'll be submitting any more pics on this site.

u mad bro?

Look, you got critique. I can't see the photos now, but I did look at your redbubble. Your horizons have a trend of not being level. Ms. Cream was correct in stating that there are an absence of lakes that are on a hill in Maine, as well as the rest of the earth.

"Bearskin Neck" by CJ Fuchs | RedBubble

See how the horizon is not level? Here's a neat experiment, I've tried it myself so I know it works... Go to your favorites, and see how many of your favorited water landscapes has a slanted horizon.

Spoiler alert: there are zero.
 
I live in Maine and I can't see any photos :(

I deleted them. I don't think I'll be submitting any more pics on this site.

u mad bro?

Look, you got critique. I can't see the photos now, but I did look at your redbubble. Your horizons have a trend of not being level. Ms. Cream was correct in stating that there are an absence of lakes that are on a hill in Maine, as well as the rest of the earth.

"Bearskin Neck" by CJ Fuchs | RedBubble

See how the horizon is not level? Here's a neat experiment, I've tried it myself so I know it works... Go to your favorites, and see how many of your favorited water landscapes has a slanted horizon.

Spoiler alert: there are zero.

Even bigger spoiler alert "bro". I have sold 17 shots of the panoramic that was posted here dawg. As for the bearskin neck one that you linked, that one was featured in a group. One of the best landscape photographers on that site does not use horizons that are straight most of the times. Because horizons usually aren't straight when you look out at them. I'm looking out of a 21 story window right now, and guess what, the horizon is curved. The earth is curved and has terrain. It's a form of photography.
 
I live in Maine and I can't see any photos :(

I deleted them. I don't think I'll be submitting any more pics on this site.

Interesting.. because the bubble level on my tripod that I used to take all the images was centered. Very weird. Maybe that's wrong too.


Horizons in pictures should be and look straight, your's did not look straight, at all. You should straighten it in post and the picture would be much more visually pleasing.

Mine didn't look straight to you, to the bubble level they looked straight, to me and the 17 people who have purchased the picture on my other website, they looked straight to them, or they understand that photography is an art form and not everything has to form into a form of rules. Hence why settings on cameras exist. So you can manipulate them to your liking. I'm not sure how many lakes you have been to, however most of them are not circles, they have ridges, and hills on the banks, and trees that make the horizon lines not straight, they also (as in this case) might be about half a mile wide to your left side, and 3/4 of a mile wide to your right. The bubble level was straight, it was on a tripod.

I would love to see your website.
 
I deleted them. I don't think I'll be submitting any more pics on this site.

u mad bro?

Look, you got critique. I can't see the photos now, but I did look at your redbubble. Your horizons have a trend of not being level. Ms. Cream was correct in stating that there are an absence of lakes that are on a hill in Maine, as well as the rest of the earth.

"Bearskin Neck" by CJ Fuchs | RedBubble

See how the horizon is not level? Here's a neat experiment, I've tried it myself so I know it works... Go to your favorites, and see how many of your favorited water landscapes has a slanted horizon.

Spoiler alert: there are zero.

Even bigger spoiler alert "bro". I have sold 17 shots of the panoramic that was posted here dawg. As for the bearskin neck one that you linked, that one was featured in a group. One of the best landscape photographers on that site does not use horizons that are straight most of the times. Because horizons usually aren't straight when you look out at them. I'm looking out of a 21 story window right now, and guess what, the horizon is curved. The earth is curved and has terrain. It's a form of photography.

No one cares if you've sold photos. I've sold photos before too. Big whoop. You seem to be missing my point about the water going downhill. Are you still in junior high? Have you not got to the point where they talk about the properties of water? I'm not trying to be rude, I just can't see how you would think that water remains stationary at an angle. I'd really like to see work of "one of the best landscape photographers on that site".

The point everyone is trying to make is that it looks wrong. You're being completely defiant when receiving C&C. You're not the first one to have an entry level camera and less than a year of shooting under their belt to post pictures and then take a 'holier than thou' stance when given criticism. If you don't want to grow as a photographer and learn some valuable information, feel free to leave.
 
When I started reading this thread I was ready to back up the OP. I couldn't see the pictures, but it's not uncommon for some hosting sites to be blocked by my work access - I just figured I'd go back and see them later. From the text I was reading, and my experience with the outdoors, I could completely believe that a perfectly level camera, depending on its perspective relative to the lake and surrounding land, could appear tilted. Shorelines are generally irregular, to varying degrees, and though trees generally grow straight up they don't always (particularly next to ponds and lakes, where the ground may be saturated and not be firm enough to hold the roots steady against a strong wind, for example). It may look off, and not be as esthetically pleasing as we might like or expect from a lake picture, but that doesn't mean it's a bad photo. It just means that maybe it's an accurate portrayal of something unexpected, or rather actually counter to our expectations. I didn't read anyone ask what the OP's intent was in taking and presenting this image - sometimes a picture is better suited being accurate than "pretty".

However...

Now that I've read all the posts to this point I realize that the OP deleted the images in a hissy fit. It's just as likely that the picture was tilted - even a minuscule offset from true dead center of the bubble level is still tilt. So I'd ask that an admin go ahead and lock this thread. Without images, all it is is a spat between the OP and the few lucky members who saw the images. And for any noobs who stumble across it (and bothers to read this far), take this thread as a warning. There are plenty of people on here willing - no, looking - to give constructive criticism, but you have to be receptive to it. After reading how he handled this thread, I am now extremely unlikely to bother with anything http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/members/104990.htmlceejtank posts in the future.
 
If it's a bubble on a $25 walmart tripod, I don't think I'd trust it.
 
u mad bro?

Look, you got critique. I can't see the photos now, but I did look at your redbubble. Your horizons have a trend of not being level. Ms. Cream was correct in stating that there are an absence of lakes that are on a hill in Maine, as well as the rest of the earth.

"Bearskin Neck" by CJ Fuchs | RedBubble

See how the horizon is not level? Here's a neat experiment, I've tried it myself so I know it works... Go to your favorites, and see how many of your favorited water landscapes has a slanted horizon.

Spoiler alert: there are zero.

Even bigger spoiler alert "bro". I have sold 17 shots of the panoramic that was posted here dawg. As for the bearskin neck one that you linked, that one was featured in a group. One of the best landscape photographers on that site does not use horizons that are straight most of the times. Because horizons usually aren't straight when you look out at them. I'm looking out of a 21 story window right now, and guess what, the horizon is curved. The earth is curved and has terrain. It's a form of photography.

No one cares if you've sold photos. I've sold photos before too. Big whoop. You seem to be missing my point about the water going downhill. Are you still in junior high? Have you not got to the point where they talk about the properties of water? I'm not trying to be rude, I just can't see how you would think that water remains stationary at an angle. I'd really like to see work of "one of the best landscape photographers on that site".

The point everyone is trying to make is that it looks wrong. You're being completely defiant when receiving C&C. You're not the first one to have an entry level camera and less than a year of shooting under their belt to post pictures and then take a 'holier than thou' stance when given criticism. If you don't want to grow as a photographer and learn some valuable information, feel free to leave.

Actually it's not stable. Which is why there's a big DAM built to the right of it. I love how you're assuming, makes this a lot easier.
 

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