dpolston
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Okay... I'm getting to be a regular here and I feel pretty comfortable asking this question. I'll start by saying that the letter you will read was written to a local photographer in my area that is very highly respected in advertising work all over the east coast. He and I have exchanged some emails and phone conversations but he is still very much an unknowing mentor to me. We are getting together for lunch soon and he's open the door for me to tag along on a shoot sometime, but we haven't been able to work out a schedule yet. I have put this out there for him mainly because of this, our shared, economic market. Plus, he (as you all) know what he's talking about.
Check this out and please let me know what you all think about this situation. For the sake of argument; I have lowered my pricing scale for this because of the nature of the association. Without getting overly political or religious here, I fully back this organization and I have wanted to be a part of this type of work for a long time.
Email copy:
Keith,
I have a question dealing with a commercial contract and I know that you can help me wrap my brain around it.
The short story is I have been hired by an association that helps churches in outreach situations (basically advertising) and they have hired me to shoot portraits of staff, exteriors and photojournalistic coverage of the day in the life of the churches involved (around 15 local churches). I dont have any technical issues and frankly, I am comfortable with my contract with the association. Im paid per hour plus materials which is fine. I give them unlimited copyright usage of all the photographs in a simple contract (I still retain ownership).
My issue is; I have agreed with the association that I can sell the same prints I have shot for them to the individual churches as well. As a give away item to the churches, I, well we, through the association, are going to give digital negatives of the pastor, 2 other staff members and 3 exterior images for the churches to use in anyway they want to for one calendar year (again, shared, limited copyright). But how would you sell the churches the other prints if they wanted them? I am thinking perhaps 100 digital images for use for one year for $500.00. Am I way high, way low or what? I really dont need to horde these images, plus through releases I am having signed, I can do whatever I want to with them anyway. Why not offer them up to the members? Plus this is a great marketing tool for my portraiture work.
This is all pretty new ground for me and its the start of a continuing contract that will be ongoing for years (possibly indefinitely, since they want regularly updated images). I realize that our pricing (because of your awesome career achievements) is probably worlds apart but for the sake of evaluation, I am limited to 10 hours a month [$750.00 + Materials] primarily because of the budget of the group, they are a non-profit.
I just dont want to get started on the wrong foot. I think I am comfortable with those terms but I would cherish your advice.
Thank you for your time.
David
Responses are welcomed... what do you think about the pricing?
Check this out and please let me know what you all think about this situation. For the sake of argument; I have lowered my pricing scale for this because of the nature of the association. Without getting overly political or religious here, I fully back this organization and I have wanted to be a part of this type of work for a long time.
Email copy:
Keith,
I have a question dealing with a commercial contract and I know that you can help me wrap my brain around it.
The short story is I have been hired by an association that helps churches in outreach situations (basically advertising) and they have hired me to shoot portraits of staff, exteriors and photojournalistic coverage of the day in the life of the churches involved (around 15 local churches). I dont have any technical issues and frankly, I am comfortable with my contract with the association. Im paid per hour plus materials which is fine. I give them unlimited copyright usage of all the photographs in a simple contract (I still retain ownership).
My issue is; I have agreed with the association that I can sell the same prints I have shot for them to the individual churches as well. As a give away item to the churches, I, well we, through the association, are going to give digital negatives of the pastor, 2 other staff members and 3 exterior images for the churches to use in anyway they want to for one calendar year (again, shared, limited copyright). But how would you sell the churches the other prints if they wanted them? I am thinking perhaps 100 digital images for use for one year for $500.00. Am I way high, way low or what? I really dont need to horde these images, plus through releases I am having signed, I can do whatever I want to with them anyway. Why not offer them up to the members? Plus this is a great marketing tool for my portraiture work.
This is all pretty new ground for me and its the start of a continuing contract that will be ongoing for years (possibly indefinitely, since they want regularly updated images). I realize that our pricing (because of your awesome career achievements) is probably worlds apart but for the sake of evaluation, I am limited to 10 hours a month [$750.00 + Materials] primarily because of the budget of the group, they are a non-profit.
I just dont want to get started on the wrong foot. I think I am comfortable with those terms but I would cherish your advice.
Thank you for your time.
David
Responses are welcomed... what do you think about the pricing?