Artistic Nudity discussion?

[mishele]

Sorry Rose isn't going to show you the shots I took of her......

 

[12sndsgood]

the answer to the question is when you masterbate to it duhhh.





i think everyone is going to have a diffrent opinion on the matter really.

 

[mishele]

Erose has a few samples. Show them erose!

Schwetty... STOP HACKING INTO MY COMPUTER!

I told you that already.

Sorry Rose isn't going to show you the shots I took of her......

No I'm not... :greenpbl:

However... Mish, that is an INSANELY brilliant idea! I mean... you're RIGHT down the street from me!

When it gets warmer out, we will have to do a bikini photo shoot. :thumbup:

 

[Josh66]

Obviously photos depicting acts of any kind that are sexual in nature would be past that line into the realm of pornography.

Why?

...I disagree.


I don't think it is possible to make a strict rule as to what is porn and what is art. You just know it when you see it.
And it is probably different for every person.

 

[John Mc]

A UK nude would probably be a US porno

I kinda want to agree with you .

I'm shooting a friend of my Fiance soon and she want's to do Semi nude stuff.

But it's incredibley...Provocative posses she wants to do. Search Front magazine (not sure if the states get it there,Might be simular to Bizzare mag,just less Gothic) she's looking to get into the pages of that.

would you say its Pornographic, or More Provocative :meh:

 

[Robin Usagani]

you have seen my photochop skill.. I can always photo chop your face

 

[MichiganFarts]

Obviously photos depicting acts of any kind that are sexual in nature would be past that line into the realm of pornography.

Why?

...I disagree.


I don't think it is possible to make a strict rule as to what is porn and what is art. You just know it when you see it.
And it is probably different for every person.

What she described sounds like porn to me...but that's just me. If it's sexual, I think most people would call it porn, outside of photography discussion especially.

How about this...if you have to explain how it's art and not porn...then it's porn.

And as far as rules with this stuff goes...I think legally it would be considered porn, if it's sexual content. (This is all subjective I know.)

Also, pedophile types probably consider their work art...so there's got to be rules in my opinion...and if anybody thinks that kind of sickness is art...I'm not in the right forums at all.

 

[Josh66]

What she described sounds like porn to me...but that's just me. If it's sexual, I think most people would call it porn, outside of photography discussion especially.

What he described was "any kind that are sexual in nature". That's pretty wide open. [EDIT-> And it wouldn't even necessarily require nudity... <-EDIT] Without seeing examples, I don't see how it's possible to automatically say it's 'porn'.

How about this...if you have to explain how it's art and not porn...then it's porn.

How about this... What if you're dealing with someone who thinks that Michelangelo's David is porn? Yes, there are people that think that way. I'm related to some of them. :lmao:
Just because you have to explain it doesn't necessarily mean anything. What if the person you're talking to is just a moron?

Also, pedophile types probably consider their work art...so there's got to be rules in my opinion...and if anybody thinks that kind of sickness is art...I'm not in the right forums at all.

:lmao:

Well, lucky for you, nudity is no longer allowed here - so you'll never be forced to look at some pedophiles 'art'.

Some people just see any nudity as 'porn', and there's no point in trying to convince them otherwise. So far, I'm thinking you might fall into that category...

edit
If you do fall into that category, I didn't mean it to be an insult (re-reading it, I can see that it might have came off that way). All I meant is that you see the world differently than me, and there is no point in me trying to 'convince you' that my way is 'right'.

 

[gsgary]

Check this guy out Christian Hough

Love it!

::bookmarked::

He does the Lighting Masterclass in Photo Pro Magazine (UK) i love to see how he has lit shots if you go on youtube he has some short videos

 

[gsgary]

A UK nude would probably be a US porno

I kinda want to agree with you .

I'm shooting a friend of my Fiance soon and she want's to do Semi nude stuff.

But it's incredibley...Provocative posses she wants to do. Search Front magazine (not sure if the states get it there,Might be simular to Bizzare mag,just less Gothic) she's looking to get into the pages of that.

would you say its Pornographic, or More Provocative :meh:

Who cares if she's fit shoot it

 

[Josh66]

One example I shot a while back:
Flickr: Please wait...

Just posting the link, since we aren't allowed to post these kind of pictures anymore...

Porn, or art?

To me, it's art. Most of my family thinks it's porn though. (My mom is pretty much the sole exception...)

 

[mishele]

Still love the shot, Josh!! It's one of my favs. of yours.
And that is in noway porn. lol

 

[MichiganFarts]

O|||||||O, you're absolutely right that it's all subjective, which is why I didn't try to get specific...just saying that I can understand what he's (<got it right this time!) trying to say.

My one concern would be about allowing pedofile types to be called artists, which is why I think most nude art should be classified as porn.

Now I know legally, nudity isn't always considered porn when dealing with publicizing photos. So I guess for me, I'd go there for what's art and what's not, then I can safely say a pedofile isn't an artist, yet there's still creative room for a photographer.

Which going that route, would make anything that looks like playboy porn...but I don't shoot nudes so I'd be ok with that lol...anyway, I know I'm not the decider of these things for you either, but just so you know where I'm coming from.

Don't worry 'bout insulting me, I do it to myself all the time... :lmao:.

 

[Josh66]

Still one of my favorites too, lol.

We have a 20x20 of it on the wall.

That's when the trouble started. Family came over, and "how dare you have porn on the walls for your kids to see". That, or in the case of my wife's sister - jealousy.

I pretty much told them to get over it, and if it was that big of a deal, don't come over anymore.

 

[Josh66]

Well, pedophiles are one thing (I personally think they should all get a bullet in the head), but I don't think it's fair to label artists with that. Now, I know I might be wrong, but I don't think that there are many pedophiles out there making art...
I think most people can tell the difference...

And Playboy is one of the most tasteful 'adult' mags, I think - especially the older ones. I haven't really seen the more recent issues...
I think if you really sat down and looked at it, a lot of it could be considered art. Something like Hustler though, yeah - that's porn.


It's like I said earlier - you just know when you see it, and it won't be the same for everyone.