Artistic Nudity discussion?

[ghpham]

Wow...this discussion has been populated by an "either art or porn" degree of extremism that's pretty narrow-minded. Where does erotica come in? How does one go straight to "porn"? Overall, some ridiculous comments have been made in this thread.

Ironically, your opinion seems to be the only one that matters to you, making your post the most narrow minded in this thread.

This is SOOO true. I am always amazed at how often the "open-minded" don't have an open mind when it comes to "closed or narrow-minded" people's point of view. Oh sure, they have an open-mind when it comes to what other people should tolerate or accept, but shouldn't they, by virtue of their own beliefs, tolerate or accept other's so-called limited views?

As for the porn versus art topic, I'm generally among the more narrow-minded of view points. To me, most nudity that involves genitalia is more pornographic than art (with the exception of things like nude baby pictures). My thinking is that it is, by definition, sexual in nature. I know MANY people disagree and that's cool. We all have out own beliefs.

Hmm...so how is it that a picture of a nude baby is considered art, but a picture of a nude adult is porn?

 

[xjoewhitex]

A UK nude would probably be a US porno

Agreed. In most peoples opinions that ive came across if its naked its porno. Thats how we Americans are raised, and thats how most of us believe. I disagree but that means nothing.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Let me see if I can take a stab at this...the infant is not trying to spice it up, smile sexy, show tits, ass, pubic regions, and act like a sex kitten. Does that range sum it up?

 

[kundalini]

Eroticism uses chicken feathers.

Pornography uses the whole chicken.

 

[Derrel]

Ironically, your opinion seems to be the only one that matters to you, making your post the most narrow minded in this thread.

This is SOOO true. I am always amazed at how often the "open-minded" don't have an open mind when it comes to "closed or narrow-minded" people's point of view. Oh sure, they have an open-mind when it comes to what other people should tolerate or accept, but shouldn't they, by virtue of their own beliefs, tolerate or accept other's so-called limited views?

As for the porn versus art topic, I'm generally among the more narrow-minded of view points. To me, most nudity that involves genitalia is more pornographic than art (with the exception of things like nude baby pictures). My thinking is that it is, by definition, sexual in nature. I know MANY people disagree and that's cool. We all have out own beliefs.

Hmm...so how is it that a picture of a nude baby is considered art, but a picture of a nude adult is porn?

Better watch out..or the prudes above will crucify you for mentioning the word baby and nude in the same post... LMFAO at some of the views here of these midwesterners who want to label anything they do not like as "porn".
Totally fricking hilariously narrow-minded.

 

[ghpham]

Let me see if I can take a stab at this...the infant is not trying to spice it up, smile sexy, show tits, ass, pubic regions, and act like a sex kitten. Does that range sum it up?

I seem to recall a picture of me as a youngster in the nude with my "tits", ass and pubic regions in full display. So the only distinction is that I didn't smile "sexy" or act like a "sex kittens". Is that the only distinction??

 

[ghpham]

Still one of my favorites too, lol.

We have a 20x20 of it on the wall.

That's when the trouble started. Family came over, and "how dare you have porn on the walls for your kids to see". That, or in the case of my wife's sister - jealousy.

I pretty much told them to get over it, and if it was that big of a deal, don't come over anymore.

Have you ever thought of asking them why it's ok for men to display their nipples but not women?

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Let me see if I can take a stab at this...the infant is not trying to spice it up, smile sexy, show tits, ass, pubic regions, and act like a sex kitten. Does that range sum it up?

I seem to recall a picture of me as a youngster in the nude with my "tits", ass and pubic regions in full display. So the only distinction is that I didn't smile "sexy" or act like a "sex kittens". Is that the only distinction??

I would say that sums it up pretty well unless for some reason your parents labeled you a pin up and I doubt that you had any physical development based on what you describe that could be associated with porn.

I am sure there are others who would love to see a photo that you describe, and I think you are speaking of a fairly common parental shot, yet I think we are speaking here of photgraphers and not perverts.

 

[MichiganFarts]

Better watch out..or the prudes above will crucify you for mentioning the word baby and nude in the same post... LMFAO at some of the views here of these midwesterners who want to label anything they do not like as "porn".
Totally fricking hilariously narrow-minded.

Unfortunately, you're not going to find a quote that matches your ridiculous statement. So instead, you quote something that has nothing to do with what you're saying. Your antics are not going to fool anyone.

Maybe you can be less of a coward and scoff some of the more prominent members who paved the way to this subject being a personal preference...being that you obviously have a problem with that...or is it just easier to pick on new people? Easy route...sounds like a coward through and through.

 

[doziergraphic]

Another good line I read somewhere...

"I don't know how to describe it, but I know what it when I see it."

In 1964, Justice Potter Stewart tried to explain "hard-core" pornography, or what is obscene, by saying, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced . . . but I know it when I see it . . . "

 

[amberdawn]

Still one of my favorites too, lol.

We have a 20x20 of it on the wall.

That's when the trouble started. Family came over, and "how dare you have porn on the walls for your kids to see". That, or in the case of my wife's sister - jealousy.

I pretty much told them to get over it, and if it was that big of a deal, don't come over anymore.

Have you ever thought of asking them why it's ok for men to display their nipples but not women?

Exactly. Only difference is women need to expose their nipples for an actual purpose, breastfeeding. Seems like it would be way more acceptable for women to be bare chested.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Still one of my favorites too, lol.

We have a 20x20 of it on the wall.

That's when the trouble started. Family came over, and "how dare you have porn on the walls for your kids to see". That, or in the case of my wife's sister - jealousy.

I pretty much told them to get over it, and if it was that big of a deal, don't come over anymore.

Have you ever thought of asking them why it's ok for men to display their nipples but not women?

Exactly. Only difference is women need to expose their nipples for an actual purpose, breastfeeding. Seems like it would be way more acceptable for women to be bare chested.

Where? In the supermarket when pushing the cart and the baby is sound asleep? Or in a restaurant when the kid is two since they need to eat according to momma? Where do you want this to nipple flikr to occur???

 

[Higgs Boson]

I think it's viewed as more appropriate/less offensive for men to show nipples because it's a vestigial/non-use organ that serves no sexual/reproductive purpose where on women it is active. Just like the other active sexual organs on the body remain hidden (for most people, lol).... On women, nipples are still "the goods" so to speak.

Of course, in other countries with different cultures, the women go bare chested on beaches. In other countries, public sex is acceptable.
In older times, men wore the makeup, etc.

Men are aroused by seeing women's nipples because they know they are active reproductive organs.

Are you women aroused by seeing a man's nipples? I doubt it. You women saying it should be ok for women to sport their nips around town are thinking with a woman's brain.....You have to think like a man, then decide if it's such a good idea.

Personally, as much as I love nipples, I don't really want to see them at a restaurant or while shopping. Heck, take an economic approach....If you want us men to make you feel sexy and wanted when the time is right, better keep the supply low during all the other times. Otherwise, we will be like the french men and not be so impressed....

 

[gsgary]

I can't believe all the fuse over bare bodies, i could see bare tits every Friday or Saturday night when out for a few beers you can't beat it

 

[mwcfarms]

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