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Great shot. I hate to be that guy, but the skin tones look way too saturated to me. The red is a bit overwhelming.
His face and nose were naturally red. Additionally, he didn't look you in the eyes when he was talking to me. He was very nice but slightly odd. Thanks bud.
 
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It's fine. I guess I could do the same but I prefer the original. I could even goes as far as to adjust the perspective but then the face would distort. I like it that he didn't look into the camera, it adds a mystery about him. I took a few other images of people at this museum and they didn't look at the camera either. Maybe something to do with their culture or so many people taking their picture over the course of their time there?.
 
That blind squirrel struck again!!! LOL. JC this is really good
 
I /brought /the /shot /into /LR /cropped /it /to /move /the /eye /direction /a /bit, /and /burned /down /that /pencil /a /bit. /Better /or /worse ?
Restart your computer, dude. You've got some kind of option key setting going on there.
 
I /brought /the /shot /into /LR /cropped /it /to /move /the /eye /direction /a /bit, /and /burned /down /that /pencil /a /bit. /Better /or /worse ?
Restart your computer, dude. You've got some kind of option key setting going on there.

I don't understand? Are you referring to Derrel or me? If me, I didn't use a PC. Just imported into tablet, cropped, posted. I am not really into editing yet. I'm still focusing on sooc images. I am not opposed to doing it, just not satisfied on a consistent basis with my skill level in camera.
 
Great subject. Whenever I see an old man ( outside of the mirror ), he is usually muttering profanities and scaring children.
Lol, not this one.
 
Great shot. I hate to be that guy, but the skin tones look way too saturated to me. The red is a bit overwhelming.
His face and nose were naturally red. Additionally, he didn't look you in the eyes when he was talking to me. He was very nice but slightly odd. Thanks bud.
I understand and assumed so, but when looking at the image on my calibrated display I notice what distinctly looks like oversaturated reds, often a trait of in camera JPEG conversion in my experience or too warm of a white balance. It's still a good sooc shot, but to me it's still a detail that detracts from the overall picture. It's minor but still catches my eye as something I would consider adjusting.
 
Great shot. I hate to be that guy, but the skin tones look way too saturated to me. The red is a bit overwhelming.
His face and nose were naturally red. Additionally, he didn't look you in the eyes when he was talking to me. He was very nice but slightly odd. Thanks bud.
I understand and assumed so, but when looking at the image on my calibrated display I notice what distinctly looks like oversaturated reds, often a trait of in camera JPEG conversion in my experience or too warm of a white balance. It's still a good sooc shot, but to me it's still a detail that detracts from the overall picture. It's minor but still catches my eye as something I would consider adjusting.
I'll work at it on PC. I understand. Probably worth looking at it a little closer. Thanks bud, appreciate the feedback.
 
In the RGB channels red has a higher wavelength so in effect travels faster than the other two colour channels. This means it is exposed for longer resulting in oversaturation. This problem isn't helped by the Bayer sensor which is designed to be more sensitive to the green channel to reflect that the human eye is more sensitive to this channel (it has twice more green photosites than red and blue). So, irrespective of jpeg conversion, your RAW file will naturally oversaturate the red channel. When taking portraits this issue is most evident in white caucasion males as 'white' skin reflects more red than any other channel. Conversely, asian skin reflects more yellow and black skin the blue channel. However, all skin tones, regardless of ethnicity, need to be compensated for the red burn.

Fortunately it's very easy to correct. Simply select the red channel in a saturation adjustment layer and reduce its saturation accordingly.

Hope this helps :)
 
jcdeboeve said:
It's fine. I guess I could do the same but I prefer the original. I could even goes as far as to adjust the perspective but then the face would distort. I like it that he didn't look into the camera, it adds a mystery about him. I took a few other images of people at this museum and they didn't look at the camera either. Maybe something to do with their culture or so many people taking their picture over the course of their time there?.

I have no problem whatsoever with the way the man is not looking at the lens and is avoiding eye contact with you....the issue I saw was that the SOOC shot had positioned his hat almost perfectly centered in the tall frame...with almost equal space on either side of the hat, so cropping of the left side of the frame made that the "short side" of the frame, and created a tiny bitmore space fopr him to look into. which IMHO improves the overall aesthetic balance of the shot, by making his line of gaze direction just a bit wider an area than the other side of the frame.

The fact that he avoids eye contact is pretty useful here, since that allows the viewer to look at him without any social constraints, IOW, to view him in a voyeuristic way. Direct eye contact with the viewer usually makes many people feel slightly uneasy; poses where the sitter avoids eye contact often make for better portraits than ones where the sitter is looking right into the lens.
 
Great shot. I hate to be that guy, but the skin tones look way too saturated to me. The red is a bit overwhelming.
His face and nose were naturally red. Additionally, he didn't look you in the eyes when he was talking to me. He was very nice but slightly odd. Thanks bud.
I understand and assumed so, but when looking at the image on my calibrated display I notice what distinctly looks like oversaturated reds, often a trait of in camera JPEG conversion in my experience or too warm of a white balance. It's still a good sooc shot, but to me it's still a detail that detracts from the overall picture. It's minor but still catches my eye as something I would consider adjusting.

In the RGB channels red has a higher wavelength so in effect travels faster than the other two colour channels. This means it is exposed for longer resulting in oversaturation. This problem isn't helped by the Bayer sensor which is designed to be more sensitive to the green channel to reflect that the human eye is more sensitive to this channel (it has twice more green photosites than red and blue). So, irrespective of jpeg conversion, your RAW file will naturally oversaturate the red channel. When taking portraits this issue is most evident in white caucasion males as 'white' skin reflects more red than any other channel. Conversely, asian skin reflects more yellow and black skin the blue channel. However, all skin tones, regardless of ethnicity, need to be compensated for the red burn.

Fortunately it's very easy to correct. Simply select the red channel in a saturation adjustment layer and reduce its saturation accordingly.

Hope this helps :)

jcdeboeve said:
It's fine. I guess I could do the same but I prefer the original. I could even goes as far as to adjust the perspective but then the face would distort. I like it that he didn't look into the camera, it adds a mystery about him. I took a few other images of people at this museum and they didn't look at the camera either. Maybe something to do with their culture or so many people taking their picture over the course of their time there?.

I have no problem whatsoever with the way the man is not looking at the lens and is avoiding eye contact with you....the issue I saw was that the SOOC shot had positioned his hat almost perfectly centered in the tall frame...with almost equal space on either side of the hat, so cropping of the left side of the frame made that the "short side" of the frame, and created a tiny bitmore space fopr him to look into. which IMHO improves the overall aesthetic balance of the shot, by making his line of gaze direction just a bit wider an area than the other side of the frame.

The fact that he avoids eye contact is pretty useful here, since that allows the viewer to look at him without any social constraints, IOW, to view him in a voyeuristic way. Direct eye contact with the viewer usually makes many people feel slightly uneasy; poses where the sitter avoids eye contact often make for better portraits than ones where the sitter is looking right into the lens.

Thanks men for the direction. I bumped things around, did a little crop. I have so little experience in editing so this is good instruction for me. Here is what I came up with.

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