Breaking The Limitations of Photography

[480sparky40 39]

You know, Sparky, in some alternate universe, that will be main-stream fare.

I'm sure the residents there would be thoroughly disgusted with my planned cookout for tonight of grilled ham & chicken, roasting ears, sun tea and home-made ice cream.







Oh, sorry.......... vanilla ice cream.

 

[table1349]

You know, Sparky, in some alternate universe, that will be main-stream fare.

I'm sure the residents there would be thoroughly disgusted with my planned cookout for tonight of grilled ham & chicken, roasting ears, sun tea and home-made ice cream.







Oh, sorry.......... vanilla ice cream.

Not nearly as disgusted as eating a Big Mac in India.

Personally I think the OP watched A Clock Work Orange one to many times while on acid.

 

[Josh100LuBu]

@Josh100LuBu While all of this (massively out of proportion joke) is fun to me, I think this has become way out of proportion. Even though I'm fairly new, as a member of this forum and this community, my question to you is ;

Are you genuinely interested to converse about photography as an art, no matter the creative choice of the individual, to help the community and its people to grow and thrive as photographers in their craft, style and techniques and in return, receive the same, fair treatment?

OR

Are you here only to promote your own "talents" and are not open to receive critiques by the member of this community.

If your answer to the first question is yes, then please revise your way of acting and if you do, I'm pretty sure I can talk for everyone here, that people will welcome you as a member of this community. Right now with the way you've acted in the previous thread and this one, I can only regard you as a selfish, attention-fishing asshole. You may report me if you want, moderator are free to punish what I just said as I entirely assume it. But I will not apologize as that is genuinely what my first impression is of you and I'm sure it is the same for most people here. If you are ready to understand what caused it and to change it, I will then be pleased to address apologies in due time and truly welcome you.

If you are not willing to change your way of acting with us, or if you answered yes to the second question. Now I have no right to force you or anything, but as a member of this community, I'm asking you to leave as you do not have your place here.

First of all, you requested me to leave so I will decline that request because it isn't an order. Secondly, i'm not obliged to answer those questions at all but for the sake of this debate I will answer them directly. I am here to change the perceptions of the vanilla photographer, i'm here to usher in a new age of photography. This community needs a good face-lift and nobody else seems to be doing it. I am passionate about this and I want a positive change here in the community that would benefit a whole new category of artists who perhaps don't have the thick skin to publish their work on here like I have in fear of ridicule. Whilst you may love the traditions of old most up and coming artists really don't value it as much as the older guys, that is the truth and changing the way the system works would draw more people in. I go out protesting in real life, I am heavily involved in the truth movements in Britain and believe me this is a worthy cause for concern. Change with the times or the times will leave you in the dust.

When Warhol was creating his work it was inovative, fresh and relevant. Picaso and Dalhi were inovative, fresh and relevant. What I have seen of yours is neither inovative, fresh and frankly it is irrelevant. It is just your take on that which has already been done before you by your betters. If it speaks to you then you should listen to it's cries for help.

From reading you posts the only true passion you have is for yourself. Van Gogh was an artist of true passion. He cut off an ear for love. There is real truth in such an act.

All you have done is to cut off your nose to spite your face. Perhaps you should consider using that free health care you have over there to have your Trolliosis looked at. Then move from Mum and Dads's house, get a job and join the real world. Come back in ten years or so once you have lived in the real world.

Your not qualified to make those judgements, your words have no weight or substance on me. The job doesn't define the man, moving out doesn't define the man. What defines the man is his character and the way he lives his life. What you are saying is be a cog in a machine, be another useless robot and keep your head down don't ask questions. I am not obliged in anyway to follow your requests and I'm not going to.

 

[480sparky40 39]

Your not qualified to make those judgements,........

Yet you summarily judge all the rest of us. So what are YOUR qualifications?

...... I am not obliged in anyway to follow your requests and I'm not going to.

And since we're all driving on a two-way street of real life, we're not obliged in any way to follow your demands.... and most likely the vast majority of us are not going to.

 

[pgriz]

@Josh100LuBu : Josh, you're continuing to read from the script (yes, there is a scipt. You're just not aware you're following the script.)

 

[Gary A.]

In some ways, this thread is illustrating a certain phenomenon that is rather common.

When I was around 17-20, I thought I really understood how the world worked, and even better, how it SHOULD work. The old, tired ways of thinking (as exhibited by my parents, teachers, and other fuddy-duddies), had to be shown for the pretenses they were. By the time I was about 24, (graduated, working, in a serious relationship), I started to appreciate that the "old, tired" ways were there partly due to circumstance, partly because of human nature, and partly because they worked for the majority of people. By my early 30's with the challenges of being a father, balancing a career, continuing my education, and being a husband to my wife, all continued to teach me that there was so much I was still ignorant of.

As my daughters grew up, they too went through this phase of questioning all authority, all precedents, all assumptions. For a while, my oldest daughter went through a phase of burning us CD's of the music she thought we needed to update ourselves with, and would send us articles about how the world really worked. It pained her deeply that we were so blind, so unaware, and so un-cultured. My other daughters also went through this phase, but in outwardly different ways. My brothers and sisters (in law) as they raised THEIR families, went through rather similar things. It's a bit of a wonder, but as my daughters continued growing, they would come back more and more often for comments, advice and support. Guess Mom and Dad did actually know a thing or two. (as I found out that my parents had a pretty good idea of how the world actually worked).

Along the way, we learned about the heartbreak of losing close family members, going through life-threatening events, finding out and confronting major character flaws, finding ourselves in circumstances which were both very difficult and life-altering. Humans are very complicated and contradictory beings, with both brilliance and idiocy, deep insight and obtuse stubbornness, inspiring and depressing, all mixed into an uneven mix. Add to this the vagarities of history, custom, and circumstance, and one finds that navigating the human society can be a full-time challenge. But you don't know what you don't know. And the ability to truly appreciate consequence doesn't seem to fully develop until the mid-20ies (of course some may be precociously aware at 12, while others never ever get there).

The OP, Josh, is on a journey of discovery. His way of expressing himself is quite in the stream of people going through this stage of their life.His self-confidence (or arrogance) is also more or less typical. I wish Josh continued success. But Josh, even though for you it's your first time on this path, and the discovery is amazing, many of us have already passed this way before, so hopefully you will forgive us for not jumping with excitement at your exuberance.

It was the '60's and early 70's when I was in my teens. Times were tumultuous and I was content to observe it all. But it was active observation ... journalism ... observe and report ... question everything. My self-confidence camouflaged the giant hole in my character which should have been filled with experience and skill. Quiet observations, not only of what is happening around me, but also how other journalists did their job, got me through these times and life.

Back to the op and my negativity ... there is a saying, If one person calls you a jackass, you can just ignore it. But when a number of people call you a jackass, you better start looking for a saddle.

 

[snerd]

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[Josh100LuBu]

@Josh100LuBu : Josh, you're continuing to read from the script (yes, there is a scipt. You're just not aware you're following the script.)

What script is this? I'm curious to see what you will make up next.

 

[bentcountershaft]

You'll find out soon enough. Or you won't. It isn't up to him or us. It's all up to you.

 

[480sparky40 39]

@Josh100LuBu : Josh, you're continuing to read from the script (yes, there is a scipt. You're just not aware you're following the script.)

What script is this? I'm curious to see what you will make up next.

Why not break out of your vanilla shell and find out for yourself?

 

[Josh100LuBu]

Your not qualified to make those judgements,........

Yet you summarily judge all the rest of us. So what are YOUR qualifications?

...... I am not obliged in anyway to follow your requests and I'm not going to.

And since we're all driving on a two-way street of real life, we're not obliged in any way to follow your demands.... and most likely the vast majority of us are not going to.

I never gave you any orders or requests to do anything, I never once instructed you or anyone else to do anything on this forum. I'm qualified to speak about suppression of truth and people blindly following traditions because i've been on numerous protests and I run my own talkshow that deals with these subjects. I make podcasts that encourage people to quit their mundane jobs and pursue other more important goals. I like to empower people to master their own lives, have you ever listened to the David Icke weekly podcasts on the power of mindfulness? Well it's basically breaking free from the chains of structure and seeing the bigger picture of life in general. You weren't put on this planet to work 9 to 5 all day everyday and you don't have to.

 

[bentcountershaft]

I'm going to revise my thoughts and rule out the chance of you ever figuring out the script thing.

 

[480sparky40 39]

I never gave you any orders or requests to do anything, I never once instructed you or anyone else to do anything on this forum. I'm qualified to speak about suppression of truth and people blindly following traditions because i've been on numerous protests and I run my own talkshow that deals with these subjects. I make podcasts that encourage people to quit their mundane jobs and pursue other more important goals. I like to empower people to master their own lives, have you ever listened to the David Icke weekly podcasts on the power of mindfulness? Well it's basically breaking free from the chains of structure and seeing the bigger picture of life in general. You weren't put on this planet to work 9 to 5 all day everyday and you don't have to.

I'll reiterate the question for you.

What are your qualifications?


If that wasn't clear enough, I'll repeat it.

What are your qualifications?


Didn't catch it? Here it is again:

What are your qualifications?

 

[tirediron]

Since there hasn't been any real discussion of photography in the last half-dozen or more pages, I've moved the topic to a more appropriate location.

 

[limr30 3]

Since there hasn't been any real discussion of photography in the last half-dozen or more pages, I've moved the topic to a more appropriate location.

The round file?