Fuji X-T2 or X-T20

[pixmedic]

am I seeing this right? X-t20's for ~$700 on KEH?
I might have to get one too...
been thinking of upgrading ye olde X-E2. well, im keeping the X-E2 i was just thinking of an upgrade for our second fuji, the X-A1 (which the wife wont let me sell because she likes the blue color)

KEH ?

Used Photography Cameras & Equipment - Buy and Sell Online
i also use B&H photo and Adorama sometimes

 

[Fujidave]

Just looked, $698 is not too bad a price for what I think is a fantastic camera.

 

[Destin]

am I seeing this right? X-t20's for ~$700 on KEH?
I might have to get one too...
been thinking of upgrading ye olde X-E2. well, im keeping the X-E2 i was just thinking of an upgrade for our second fuji, the X-A1 (which the wife wont let me sell because she likes the blue color)

Yep. $799 brand new or $650-750 used. I think it’s a steal.

I just got into an x-t20 (new) and a 10-24 (used) for $1400. Which is the same as an x-t2 body only is going for now.

Can’t conplain.

 

[ac12]

You people need to stop with this.

Between you and @SquarePeg and @jcdeboever and @nerwin, there's something in the water. (@Gary A. is the primary suspect.)

I can't afford to have two systems. But y'all are slowly wearing me down. But I'm impatient, and I'd have to sell a lot of crap to be able to afford it. But I leave my D800 behind a lot.

Done that.
DX Nikon D7200
m43 Olympus E-M1

Even worse, I'm thinking of getting a FX D750

 

[ac12]

@Destin get the XT2.

No, Destin get the X-T20

no, I changed my mine, get the X-T2
no, maybe ...

Just get BOTH !!

Actually, this is not as silly as it may sound.
A heavy and light camera of the same system. Then you use whichever camera is appropriate for the shoot.
The logic is the same in other systems.

• Heavy D810 + lighter D610
  
• Heavy D7200 + lighter D3400
• Heavy E-M1 + lighter E-M10

I went similar, but I jumped systems for the lighter companion camera.
I have a D7200 and was looking at the D3400 for a light companion, when I don't want to haul the heavy D7200.
Instead I jumped to a m43 Olympus E-M1 for my light companion, for even more weight reduction + size reduction.
Even with the E-M1, I am looking at the E-M10 as an even lighter companion, some time in the future.

Get one camera now, then get the 2nd next year.

 

[beagle100]

@Destin get the XT2.

No, Destin get the X-T20

no, I changed my mine, get the X-T2
no, maybe ...

Just get BOTH !!

Actually, this is not as silly as it may sound.
A heavy and light camera of the same system. Then you use whichever camera is appropriate for the shoot.
The logic is the same in other system
Even with the E-M1, I am looking at the E-M10 as an even lighter companion, some time in the future.
Get one camera now, then get the 2nd next year.

OK. you're buying different camera systems every year for whatever is appropriate for the shoot
yeah ...
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

 

[Destin]

OK. you're buying different camera systems every year for whatever is appropriate for the shoot
yeah ...
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

Not quite.

I’ve been a Nikon guy since I began photography over a decade ago and I love it.

But I’ve had an eye on the Fuji stuff (and mirrorless stuff in general) for a while because I liked the photos I saw it producing and the retro look is pretty sexy.

But until I got into backpacking seriously (this summer) I hadn’t had a reason to add some Fuji kit to my collection. I now have a need for a lighter camera/lens combo, so I acquired some.

Also, for me, collecting and enjoying different gear is as much a part of the hobby as taking photos.

 

[ac12]

@Destin get the XT2.

No, Destin get the X-T20

no, I changed my mine, get the X-T2
no, maybe ...

Just get BOTH !!

Actually, this is not as silly as it may sound.
A heavy and light camera of the same system. Then you use whichever camera is appropriate for the shoot.
The logic is the same in other system
Even with the E-M1, I am looking at the E-M10 as an even lighter companion, some time in the future.
Get one camera now, then get the 2nd next year.

OK. you're buying different camera systems every year for whatever is appropriate for the shoot
yeah ...
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

You missed the point.

A jack of all trades is a mater of none.
If the camera is too heavy, it ends up staying on the shelf, and you take no pictures.
Been there, done that. So I know first-hand the results of not wanting to haul out the big heavy camera . . . no pictures.

YES, you get the gear that you need, and it is NOT excessive, if done correctly.

You don't get every camera in the Nikon line, to fit minor changes. In this case you get two cameras, on both ends of the line, the heavy 810 and light 610. or heavy 7200 and light 3400. They use the same lens system, so there is no effect there.

I chose to go to a different system (m43) for even more weight reduction, so I took the hit of a new system being incompatible with my existing system. However, the next camera in the progression is in that same m43 system, and all the m43 lenses will work on that camera as well.

If you are already on the bottom of the series, such as with a D610, there is no option within the series, and you do have to change systems from FX to DX to get lighter.

 

[beagle100]

@Destin get the XT2.

No, Destin get the X-T20

no, I changed my mine, get the X-T2
no, maybe ...
Just get BOTH !!

Actually, this is not as silly as it may sound.
A heavy and light camera of the same system. Then you use whichever camera is appropriate for the shoot.
The logic is the same in other system
Even with the E-M1, I am looking at the E-M10 as an even lighter companion, some time in the future.
Get one camera now, then get the 2nd next year.

OK. you're buying different camera systems every year for whatever is appropriate for the shoot
yeah ...
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

You missed the point.
A jack of all trades is a mater of none.
If the camera is too heavy, it ends up staying on the shelf, and you take no pictures.
Been there, done that. So I know first-hand the results of not wanting to haul out the big heavy camera . . . no pictures.

YES, you get the gear that you need, and it is NOT excessive, if done correctly.
You don't get every camera in the Nikon line, to fit minor changes. In this case you get two cameras, on both ends of the line, the heavy 810 and light 610. or heavy 7200 and light 3400. They use the same lens system, so there is no effect there.
I chose to go to a different system (m43) for even more weight reduction, so I took the hit of a new system being incompatible with my existing system. However, the next camera in the progression is in that same m43 system, and all the m43 lenses will work on that camera as well.
If you are already on the bottom of the series, such as with a D610, there is no option within the series, and you do have to change systems from FX to DX to get lighter.

OK, get a full frame camera and a 4/3 camera and APS-C camera and all the lenses .. and a cell phone camera
you've got it all covered ... until the next "progression"
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

 

[Destin]

@Destin get the XT2.

No, Destin get the X-T20

no, I changed my mine, get the X-T2
no, maybe ...
Just get BOTH !!

Actually, this is not as silly as it may sound.
A heavy and light camera of the same system. Then you use whichever camera is appropriate for the shoot.
The logic is the same in other system
Even with the E-M1, I am looking at the E-M10 as an even lighter companion, some time in the future.
Get one camera now, then get the 2nd next year.

OK. you're buying different camera systems every year for whatever is appropriate for the shoot
yeah ...
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

You missed the point.
A jack of all trades is a mater of none.
If the camera is too heavy, it ends up staying on the shelf, and you take no pictures.
Been there, done that. So I know first-hand the results of not wanting to haul out the big heavy camera . . . no pictures.

YES, you get the gear that you need, and it is NOT excessive, if done correctly.
You don't get every camera in the Nikon line, to fit minor changes. In this case you get two cameras, on both ends of the line, the heavy 810 and light 610. or heavy 7200 and light 3400. They use the same lens system, so there is no effect there.
I chose to go to a different system (m43) for even more weight reduction, so I took the hit of a new system being incompatible with my existing system. However, the next camera in the progression is in that same m43 system, and all the m43 lenses will work on that camera as well.
If you are already on the bottom of the series, such as with a D610, there is no option within the series, and you do have to change systems from FX to DX to get lighter.

OK, get a full frame camera and a 4/3 camera and APS-C camera and all the lenses .. and a cell phone camera
you've got it all covered ... until the next "progression"
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

Hey, if someone has the money to do so and wants to own one of every camera on the market, who are we to tell them it’s a bad thing to do?

It’s not like I’m endlessly adding gear. I made a calculated decision to trade my current APS-C body for a small, lighter one that better suits my needs. The sale entirely covered the cost.

Not that I need to justify my spending to a stranger on the Internet...

 

[beagle100]

@Destin get the XT2.

No, Destin get the X-T20

no, I changed my mine, get the X-T2
no, maybe ...
Just get BOTH !!

Actually, this is not as silly as it may sound.
A heavy and light camera of the same system. Then you use whichever camera is appropriate for the shoot.
The logic is the same in other system
Even with the E-M1, I am looking at the E-M10 as an even lighter companion, some time in the future.
Get one camera now, then get the 2nd next year.

OK. you're buying different camera systems every year for whatever is appropriate for the shoot
yeah ...
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

You missed the point.
A jack of all trades is a mater of none.
If the camera is too heavy, it ends up staying on the shelf, and you take no pictures.
Been there, done that. So I know first-hand the results of not wanting to haul out the big heavy camera . . . no pictures.

YES, you get the gear that you need, and it is NOT excessive, if done correctly.
You don't get every camera in the Nikon line, to fit minor changes. In this case you get two cameras, on both ends of the line, the heavy 810 and light 610. or heavy 7200 and light 3400. They use the same lens system, so there is no effect there.
I chose to go to a different system (m43) for even more weight reduction, so I took the hit of a new system being incompatible with my existing system. However, the next camera in the progression is in that same m43 system, and all the m43 lenses will work on that camera as well.
If you are already on the bottom of the series, such as with a D610, there is no option within the series, and you do have to change systems from FX to DX to get lighter.

OK, get a full frame camera and a 4/3 camera and APS-C camera and all the lenses .. and a cell phone camera
you've got it all covered ... until the next "progression"
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

Hey, if someone has the money to do so and wants to own one of every camera on the market, who are we to tell them it’s a bad thing to do?
It’s not like I’m endlessly adding gear. I made a calculated decision to trade my current APS-C body for a small, lighter one that better suits my needs. The sale entirely covered the cost.

Not that I need to justify my spending to a stranger on the Internet...

yes, no one is judging the various camera systems you have bought ....... (and you)
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

 

[ac12]

@Destin get the XT2.

No, Destin get the X-T20

no, I changed my mine, get the X-T2
no, maybe ...
Just get BOTH !!

Actually, this is not as silly as it may sound.
A heavy and light camera of the same system. Then you use whichever camera is appropriate for the shoot.
The logic is the same in other system
Even with the E-M1, I am looking at the E-M10 as an even lighter companion, some time in the future.
Get one camera now, then get the 2nd next year.

OK. you're buying different camera systems every year for whatever is appropriate for the shoot
yeah ...
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

You missed the point.
A jack of all trades is a mater of none.
If the camera is too heavy, it ends up staying on the shelf, and you take no pictures.
Been there, done that. So I know first-hand the results of not wanting to haul out the big heavy camera . . . no pictures.

YES, you get the gear that you need, and it is NOT excessive, if done correctly.
You don't get every camera in the Nikon line, to fit minor changes. In this case you get two cameras, on both ends of the line, the heavy 810 and light 610. or heavy 7200 and light 3400. They use the same lens system, so there is no effect there.
I chose to go to a different system (m43) for even more weight reduction, so I took the hit of a new system being incompatible with my existing system. However, the next camera in the progression is in that same m43 system, and all the m43 lenses will work on that camera as well.
If you are already on the bottom of the series, such as with a D610, there is no option within the series, and you do have to change systems from FX to DX to get lighter.

OK, get a full frame camera and a 4/3 camera and APS-C camera and all the lenses .. and a cell phone camera
you've got it all covered ... until the next "progression"
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

Already did that; 4x5, 6x6 MF, 35mm film (big SLR, small SLR, P&S).
hmmm maybe I want an 8x10 next.

 

[Destin]

X-T20 came today. Even after playing with it in the store I was still amazed at just how small it was when I unboxed it. I think it’s definitely going to be better to backpack with.

But I don’t have the lens here yet. It’s really hard to have a new camera to play with and no lens to mount on it lol.

 

[jcdeboever]

X-T20 came today. Even after playing with it in the store I was still amazed at just how small it was when I unboxed it. I think it’s definitely going to be better to backpack with.

But I don’t have the lens here yet. It’s really hard to have a new camera to play with and no lens to mount on it lol.

Congrats

 

[ac12]

Cool

10-24 = 15-35 FF equiv ?
I had to wait for my lens also. That was an agonizing wait.

In the mean time, you can start to learn the menu system and configure the camera.
It took me a LONG time to figure it out on my Olympus. Each mfg has a slightly different menu, and they don't put everything in the same place with the same label/title

Tip. Keep track of your configuration changes. When I updated the firmware on my Olympus, it reset the camera, and I lost all my changes. Subsequently, I discovered that certain updates will reset the camera. That is probably similar for the Fuji.
I'm going to do that myself for my Nikon.

Now the other stuff:

• Spare batteries. You are going to need a BUNCH when you go hiking. Unless they make a solar charger that you can attach to your pack.
  
• 2nd charger
• light tripod
• remote release
• etc. etc. etc.

N-Joy the new camera.