Got a ?? about Military pictures

[GeorgieGirl]

Kerb--Maybe turning people away today, but the war just ended so that makes sense.

Where are you getting your information from? I'm just curious.

What that the war is over?

or

About the entry standards changing?


I hope no one thinks I am making these things up...:meh:

I get my info on the war from the news....I hope that its reliable.

I got my info on the standards changing from a Marine, who had to hit quota, in the past two years.

 

[naptime]

Kerb--Maybe turning people away today, but the war just ended so that makes sense.

Where are you getting your information from? I'm just curious.

What that the war is over?

or

About the entry standards changing?


I hope no one thinks I am making these things up...:meh:

I get my info on the war from the news....I hope that its reliable.

I got my info on the standards changing from a Marine, who had to hit quota, in the past two years.

honestly.... i would say neither of those are reliable sources.


the news is certainly not reliable ..... that's a fact.

and ONE marine recruiter who has quotas to meet, absolutely does not represent the entire military or it's standards.



i don't think you are making it up. but just because someone said it, does not make it true.

 

[Kerbouchard]

Kerb--Maybe turning people away today, but the war just ended so that makes sense.

Where are you getting your information from? I'm just curious.

What that the war is over?

or

About the entry standards changing?


I hope no one thinks I am making these things up...:meh:

I get my info on the war from the news....I hope that its reliable.

I got my info on the standards changing from a Marine, who had to hit quota, in the past two years.

Do you know how all the funniest jokes start out in the military? They all start with, "But my recruiter said..."

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Where are you getting your information from? I'm just curious.

What that the war is over?

or

About the entry standards changing?


I hope no one thinks I am making these things up...:meh:

I get my info on the war from the news....I hope that its reliable.

I got my info on the standards changing from a Marine, who had to hit quota, in the past two years.

Do you know how all the funniest jokes start out in the military? They all start with, "But my recruiter said..."

Could be but this guy is carreer. $30k stay in bonus and all...

 

[Kerbouchard]

What that the war is over?

or

About the entry standards changing?


I hope no one thinks I am making these things up...:meh:

I get my info on the war from the news....I hope that its reliable.

I got my info on the standards changing from a Marine, who had to hit quota, in the past two years.

Do you know how all the funniest jokes start out in the military? They all start with, "But my recruiter said..."

Could be but this guy is carreer. $30k stay in bonus and all...

Okay. Regardless, you have several veterans and active duty people telling you different. Like I said earlier, believe what you want.

 

[daniel.garcia]

U.S.M.C. we all know in our hearts that this is the only REAL branch.....

Those who tried to become a Marine and could not went to the Army, Navy and AirForce.

Semper Fi......83-89

And yes I do bleed Red White and Blue

Now you all can bring it....LOL :lmao::lmao::lmao:

You DO know what MARINE stands for, right?

My
Ass
Rides
In
Navy
Equipment

The Marines would be no where without us Sailors, especially those of us proudly in the only enlisted Corps in the Navy.. the United States Hospital Corpsman.

I am currently deployed filling an Army billet, and one thing I've noticed is the Army treats their people horribly. I can't wait to get back home and out of these ACU's and back into the MARPAT's. Hoorah!

 

[naptime]

U.S.M.C. we all know in our hearts that this is the only REAL branch.....

Those who tried to become a Marine and could not went to the Army, Navy and AirForce.

Semper Fi......83-89

And yes I do bleed Red White and Blue

Now you all can bring it....LOL :lmao::lmao::lmao:

You DO know what MARINE stands for, right?

My
Ass
Rides
In
Navy
Equipment

The Marines would be no where without us Sailors, especially those of us proudly in the only enlisted Corps in the Navy.. the United States Hospital Corpsman.

I am currently deployed filling an Army billet, and one thing I've noticed is the Army treats their people horribly. I can't wait to get back home and out of these ACU's and back into the MARPAT's. Hoorah!

how cute. a nurse is getting in on the action.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Do you know how all the funniest jokes start out in the military? They all start with, "But my recruiter said..."

Could be but this guy is carreer. $30k stay in bonus and all...

Okay. Regardless, you have several veterans and active duty people telling you different. Like I said earlier, believe what you want.

Thank you. I am glad I have your pemission for that.

 

[Kerbouchard]

Could be but this guy is carreer. $30k stay in bonus and all...

Okay. Regardless, you have several veterans and active duty people telling you different. Like I said earlier, believe what you want.

Thank you. I am glad I have your pemission for that.

Yep, I served for your right to be wrong in public. Your welcome.

 

[tirediron]

If they are YOUR images it's fine. If it's the military images it's not fine.

If they are photos taken by an employee of the US government in the performance of their duties, the photos are in the public domain, because the copyright is owned by every US citizen.

Keith, are you sure about that? It doesn't make sense to me. By that, I would understand then that I would be able to (were I a US citizen) use classified photographs, ones taken by say, the official White House photographer, etc for advertising or any other purpose I wanted....

 

[Josh66]

If they are YOUR images it's fine. If it's the military images it's not fine.

If they are photos taken by an employee of the US government in the performance of their duties, the photos are in the public domain, because the copyright is owned by every US citizen.

Keith, are you sure about that? It doesn't make sense to me. By that, I would understand then that I would be able to (were I a US citizen) use classified photographs, ones taken by say, the official White House photographer, etc for advertising or any other purpose I wanted....

Obviously, they wouldn't be releasing classified photos to the general public... And contrary to what many people think, the fact that they have been released (like on wikileaks) does not declassify them.

Flickr: Official U.S. Air Force's Photostream

You will notice that every photo there has been licensed Attribution, Noncommercial.

(I know that's not 'proof', just offering an example.)

 

[EIngerson]

What that the war is over?

or

About the entry standards changing?


I hope no one thinks I am making these things up...:meh:

I get my info on the war from the news....I hope that its reliable.

I got my info on the standards changing from a Marine, who had to hit quota, in the past two years.

Do you know how all the funniest jokes start out in the military? They all start with, "But my recruiter said..."

Could be but this guy is carreer. $30k stay in bonus and all...

The "NEWS" responce answered my question. It's miss leading at best. There are still certain MOS's (Military Occupational Specialties) that will not be effected by the draw down. i.e. EOD or Data/Communication guys. The military spends a ton of money training them. Mix that with the fact that they can translate their talents to the civilian work force and make some good money and the Marine Corps will give them a great incentive to stay in. The rest of us are under some severe scrutiny though.

The Marines are downsizing from approx 204K to a goal of 186K in total force. How do we do that? we enforce the standards harder and get rid of waivers for entry level contracts. Recruiters have ALWAYS had quotas and always will. The standards really didn't change at all. The level we enforce them has drastically changed. I would bet money if a person showed up to a recruiter today with a GED, they would get turned away. I recently watched a Gunnery Sergeant with 17 yrs and 10 months of active duty service get the boot. Why? Money. Money drives everything we do. If you want to know how the military is doing, watch the world value of the dollar. We are downsizing to save money, and that's the bottom line. Why spend the money to train a kid with a GED when we can train the guy that has a college degree? There's the "Standard". I hope that puts some light on it.

And to the OP, sorry to further jack your thread with info you didn't ask for. I'd love to see the photos you took.

 

[tirediron]

Obviously, they wouldn't be releasing classified photos to the general public...

No, I understand that, however if I own the (or am part-owner) of the copyright to an image, than in theory shouldn't I have access to?

And contrary to what many people think, the fact that they have been released (like on wikileaks) does not declassify them.

If a photograph has been released, then yes, it has been de-classified. Most photos that appear in places such as Wikileaks are NOT released, they are leaked by people who do not have the authority to release them.

You will notice that every photo there has been licensed Attribution, Noncommercial.

That's a license, meaning that the images can be used for non-commercial purposes IF they work is attributed to the USAF, quite a different thing from copright. Not trying to split hairs or start arguments (and apologizes to the OP for potentially de-railing the thread), but Keith is usually fairly knowledable regarding US copyright, and I am having a hard time believing that he is in this case....

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Do you know how all the funniest jokes start out in the military? They all start with, "But my recruiter said..."

Could be but this guy is carreer. $30k stay in bonus and all...

The "NEWS" responce answered my question. It's miss leading at best. There are still certain MOS's (Military Occupational Specialties) that will not be effected by the draw down. i.e. EOD or Data/Communication guys. The military spends a ton of money training them. Mix that with the fact that they can translate their talents to the civilian work force and make some good money and the Marine Corps will give them a great incentive to stay in. The rest of us are under some severe scrutiny though.

The Marines are downsizing from approx 204K to a goal of 186K in total force. How do we do that? we enforce the standards harder and get rid of waivers for entry level contracts. Recruiters have ALWAYS had quotas and always will. The standards really didn't change at all. The level we enforce them has drastically changed. I would bet money if a person showed up to a recruiter today with a GED, they would get turned away. I recently watched a Gunnery Sergeant with 17 yrs and 10 months of active duty service get the boot. Why? Money. Money drives everything we do. If you want to know how the military is doing, watch the world value of the dollar. We are downsizing to save money, and that's the bottom line. Why spend the money to train a kid with a GED when we can train the guy that has a college degree? There's the "Standard". I hope that puts some light on it.

And to the OP, sorry to further jack your thread with info you didn't ask for. I'd love to see the photos you took.

This is going to turn politcal in a hurry I fear....Of course the war needed to be over...the money is needed and there is an election coming. Those are all the obvious things. I have no complaints with the bonus to stay on, I think like any other business that there should be incentives to stay on for a career and I do feel that the Armed Forces is big business and has been for the past 10 or so years.

To say to me, train the guy with the college education vs. the guy with the GED (guy being gender neutral) is like DUH, that's obvious, why wouldn't any business want the most studied and mature people they can find, but that's not really the stats, is it. To mix it up a bit for more fun and to share somehting very local...My girlfirends son is being pursued by recruiters as a junior in HS. He is of Korean descent, has perfect pitch, he plays the trombone, is a gifted student with genius IQ and they will roll the red carpet out just for him to play trombone in the Band. He can have his pick of colleges and scholarships. He's not homeless or shiftless or without friends or family. So yes, business should always go for the best the market will bear when filling a job. Perhaps right now those college grads who have no jobs and have not been able to finds jobs due to the economy and job market might be more apt to consider enlisting, so why not consider them before all others when you have the melting pot of so many higher educated individuals to choose from.

But that is now, not three years ago when the world economy high on life and the demographics and the standards were much different.

 

[EIngerson]

Could be but this guy is carreer. $30k stay in bonus and all...

The "NEWS" responce answered my question. It's miss leading at best. There are still certain MOS's (Military Occupational Specialties) that will not be effected by the draw down. i.e. EOD or Data/Communication guys. The military spends a ton of money training them. Mix that with the fact that they can translate their talents to the civilian work force and make some good money and the Marine Corps will give them a great incentive to stay in. The rest of us are under some severe scrutiny though.

The Marines are downsizing from approx 204K to a goal of 186K in total force. How do we do that? we enforce the standards harder and get rid of waivers for entry level contracts. Recruiters have ALWAYS had quotas and always will. The standards really didn't change at all. The level we enforce them has drastically changed. I would bet money if a person showed up to a recruiter today with a GED, they would get turned away. I recently watched a Gunnery Sergeant with 17 yrs and 10 months of active duty service get the boot. Why? Money. Money drives everything we do. If you want to know how the military is doing, watch the world value of the dollar. We are downsizing to save money, and that's the bottom line. Why spend the money to train a kid with a GED when we can train the guy that has a college degree? There's the "Standard". I hope that puts some light on it.

And to the OP, sorry to further jack your thread with info you didn't ask for. I'd love to see the photos you took.

This is going to turn politcal in a hurry I fear....Of course the war needed to be over...the money is needed and there is an election coming. Those are all the obvious things. I have no complaints with the bonus to stay on, I think like any other business that there should be incentives to stay on for a career and I do feel that the Armed Forces is big business and has been for the past 10 or so years.

To say to me, train the guy with the college education vs. the guy with the GED (guy being gender neutral) is like DUH, that's obvious, why wouldn't any business want the most studied and mature people they can find, but that's not really the stats, is it. To mix it up a bit for more fun and to share somehting very local...My girlfirends son is being pursued by recruiters as a junior in HS. He is of Korean descent, has perfect pitch, he plays the trombone, is a gifted student with genius IQ and they will roll the red carpet out just for him to play trombone in the Band. He can have his pick of colleges and scholarships. He's not homeless or shiftless or without friends or family. So yes, business should always go for the best the market will bear when filling a job. Perhaps right now those college grads who have no jobs and have not been able to finds jobs due to the economy and job market might be more apt to consider enlisting, so why not consider them before all others when you have the melting pot of so many higher educated individuals to choose from.

But that is now, not three years ago when the world economy high on life and the demographics and the standards were much different.

"My girlfirends son is being pursued by recruiters as a junior in HS. He is of Korean descent, has perfect pitch, he plays the trombone, is a gifted student with genius IQ and they will roll the red carpet out just for him to play trombone in the Band."

You just said the same thing I did. Now I go back to my original point, the NEWS. Be careful thinking the "War is over." LOL. A couple pictures of a wife hugging her Sailor that just got home on the news is misleading.

If I pull all of the major units out of Iraq and replace them with "Individual Augments" I can tell you we have no more "units" in Iraq. I still have a military force on deck over there don't I? If I tell the service men and women that are still over there "You are on a stability mission now." I can tell the American public that "Combat operations" have been terminated. It's that simple.

Sounds to me things are exactly the way they were 3 years ago.