Hazy self portraits- landscape orientation...

[Derrel]

We aren't arguing about feminine and masculine tilt here? Wow!

Awesome, eh???

There are literally centuries' worth of guidelines in how we communicate status, power dynamics, and stature/respect/strength/vitality through the careful,studied posing of people in the visual arts...painting,sculpture,casting,drawing,photography.

 

[terri38 9]

Tone it down, Derrel. Maybe step outside?

 

[Derrel]

Tone it down, Derrel. Maybe step outside?

I am very tired of repeatedly being ridiculed by a newbie on this issue...Robin brought it up...

 

[_jessicalynn_]

We aren't arguing about feminine and masculine tilt here? Wow!

Is there Something wrong with the tilt of my head also? I mean please, don't hold back. I must know every single thing unappealing about these 2 photos.

 

[_jessicalynn_]

Awesome, eh???

There are literally centuries' worth of guidelines in how we communicate status, power dynamics, and stature/respect/strength/vitality through the careful,studied posing of people in the visual arts...painting,sculpture,casting,drawing,photography.

Oh wait, I guess I missed something...

Do I have the authority to do this?? Here goes.

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[thetrue]

No jessica, there's nothing wrong with your head tilt. Just leave it at that.

 

[Ashlee_Duh]

I think it's brave for anyone to post pictures of themselves on a forum where opinions and critiques fly rampant. However, I agree with some that the awkward facial expression of the infamous "duck lips" makes the photo seem lackluster. I think if you had your mouth in a more natural state and slight smirk, the picture would have worked a lot better. I do like the hazy effect added to the photos though.

 

[bvengence]

10/10 love it. Contrast and light.

 

[terri38 9]

Tone it down, Derrel. Maybe step outside?

I am very tired of repeatedly being ridiculed by a newbie on this issue...Robin brought it up...

Are you kidding me? It was a joke! Lighten up.

Stay on topic, people!

 

[CA_]

Thanks for all the cc. I will take it all into consideration next time I take a self portrait.

Jessica, were they cropped to this frame or are these how they were shot? Would you be interested in letting me take a swing at the RAW files? I think we have somewhat similar tastes in processing, and maybe I can give you a couple pointers?

Also, keep doing the landscape shots, I find them to be more interesting than traditional portrait oriented framing. I love this site, the members are great, but sometimes you'll get Kmart-Photocenter type of advice. It's good advice for foundations, but don't worry if your stuff doesn't resonate with everyone. Keep being different!!

You see millions of shots like these on Facebook on every MWAC Pro's page! how is THAT being different?

I love it when an amateur tells another amateur to ignore the advice from all the long time shooters and established pro's! If you are here to learn, who are you going to listen to.. the other Amateurs? Yea.. sure.. you will learn a LOT there!

Lol right, that's why alll of the 'pros' photos all look sooo different from one another.

Please don't discourage new people from trying new things and forming their own identity, and belittling other people's opinions because you label them as amateur. Share the basic and foundations of photography, and then get out of the way of people's creativity.

The last thing photography needs is more of this I'm-a-pro elitist garbage.

 

[CA_]

Thanks for all the cc. I will take it all into consideration next time I take a self portrait.

Jessica, were they cropped to this frame or are these how they were shot? Would you be interested in letting me take a swing at the RAW files? I think we have somewhat similar tastes in processing, and maybe I can give you a couple pointers?

Also, keep doing the landscape shots, I find them to be more interesting than traditional portrait oriented framing. I love this site, the members are great, but sometimes you'll get Kmart-Photocenter type of advice. It's good advice for foundations, but don't worry if your stuff doesn't resonate with everyone. Keep being different!!

You see millions of shots like these on Facebook on every MWAC Pro's page! how is THAT being different?

I love it when an amateur tells another amateur to ignore the advice from all the long time shooters and established pro's! If you are here to learn, who are you going to listen to.. the other Amateurs? Yea.. sure.. you will learn a LOT there!

Oh yeah, and please, keep lecturing us on how pro you are, and how amateur the rest of us are. Give me a break

 

[rexbobcat]

Jessica, were they cropped to this frame or are these how they were shot? Would you be interested in letting me take a swing at the RAW files? I think we have somewhat similar tastes in processing, and maybe I can give you a couple pointers?

Also, keep doing the landscape shots, I find them to be more interesting than traditional portrait oriented framing. I love this site, the members are great, but sometimes you'll get Kmart-Photocenter type of advice. It's good advice for foundations, but don't worry if your stuff doesn't resonate with everyone. Keep being different!!

You see millions of shots like these on Facebook on every MWAC Pro's page! how is THAT being different?

I love it when an amateur tells another amateur to ignore the advice from all the long time shooters and established pro's! If you are here to learn, who are you going to listen to.. the other Amateurs? Yea.. sure.. you will learn a LOT there!

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Oh yeah, and please, keep lecturing us on how pro you are, and how amateur the rest of us are. Give me a break

Puffing your chest out isn't really helping the issue. All that was missing in that post was a sassy z-snap. Lol. :/

I don't mind the orientation. It's used a lot for beauty shots so it's not too out of the ordinary. But I don't really like the processing. It's also not as...unique...as some like to think, but the main reason I don't like it is...why? It doesn't add anything to the photo. It doesn't make me feel anything other than "hey, there's something smudged on the end of your lens."

The shots where I think this processing works is when it lends to the atmosphere of the photos. There isn't much of an atmosphere in these photos, though, to begin with, so it doesn't make sense

 

[CA_]

You see millions of shots like these on Facebook on every MWAC Pro's page! how is THAT being different?

I love it when an amateur tells another amateur to ignore the advice from all the long time shooters and established pro's! If you are here to learn, who are you going to listen to.. the other Amateurs? Yea.. sure.. you will learn a LOT there!

View attachment 33997

Oh yeah, and please, keep lecturing us on how pro you are, and how amateur the rest of us are. Give me a break

Puffing your chest out isn't really helping the issue. All that was missing in that post was a sassy z-snap. Lol. :/

I don't mind the orientation. It's used a lot for beauty shots so it's not too out of the ordinary. But I don't really like the processing. It's also not as...unique...as some like to think, but the main reason I don't like it is...why? It doesn't add anything to the photo. It doesn't make me feel anything other than "hey, there's something smudged on the end of your lens."

The shots where I think this processing works is when it lends to the atmosphere of the photos. There isn't much of an atmosphere in these photos, though, to begin with, so it doesn't make sense

Haha no I didn't mean it in a chest puffing way, it just really bothers me when one person's opinions are not seen as valid because they're labeled 'amateur'. I think art and expression should be accessible to all, not just those that are deemed worthy.

And yes, I agree with your critique of the shots, there are other issues beyond the framing, and you make some pretty astute points.

 

[_jessicalynn_]

It's just an image. I take at least 100 a day. I'm a mom of two little ones, I was just pleased I went through the effort to grab the tripod, sit on my kitchen floor, take a few selfies and get them edited. I look decent, not at all like I've gone to bed at 1 and up at 5 w the littles for the past 5 years. That's all. But seriously that was like 4000 pics ago. Moving forward.

 

[GrahamPhisher]

Please stop the duck face too. You are gorgeous......unless you have duck face.

people think I do duckface all the time, but its just my lips.... sucks..... lol http://s20.postimage.org/evwbu83f1/image.jpg

I actually like these pics, not like their WOW but simple honest humble pics tht say a lot about one that have character in em.