Is it a landslide victory? 1D vs D3

[3bayjunkie]

What is your opinion? I am getting the D3 in the next month or so, but I found this comparison after I had already made my decision. What do you think?

Scroll to the bottom for the Canon 1DIV vs Nikon D3 comparison
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[pdq5oh]

Looks to me like the D3 had no more noise at 6400 than the 1D at 1600. That would certainly make my decision easy.

 

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Well what do you shoot.

Do you shoot landscapes, portraits or macro? Yes! Get the 1D

Do you shoot wildlife, sports or photojournalism? Yes! Get the D3

Pretty dam simple to be honest..

 

[Village Idiot]

Well what do you shoot.

Do you shoot landscapes, portraits or macro? Yes! Get the 1D

Do you shoot wildlife, sports or photojournalism? Yes! Get the D3

Pretty dam simple to be honest..

Wait, your perception seems backwards. The crop would be better for wildlife, sports, and photojournalism.

But to be fair, the article stated that the D3 had about a one stop advantage on the 1D MKIV. The 1D MKIC has more than double the pixel density of the D3, so that in itself is amazing as everyone knows that me more pixels you cram into a smaller sized sensor, the more noise you get.

 

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The crop would be better for wildlife, sports, and photojournalism.

Common misconception, almost all wildlife / sports photography has to be done with available light, so having better ISO performance is something that I know I'd much rather have than a higher MP Count. Also Canon doesn't produce a 200-400mm f/4 lens which is perfect for both genres of photography!

Although you can use a flash in most photojournalistic situations, I'd also rather have higher ISO performance.

 

[Light Artisan]

The crop would be better for wildlife, sports, and photojournalism.

Common misconception, almost all wildlife / sports photography has to be done with available light, so having better ISO performance is something that I know I'd much rather have than a higher MP Count. Also Canon doesn't produce a 200-400mm f/4 lens which is perfect for both genres of photography!

Although you can use a flash in most photojournalistic situations, I'd also rather have higher ISO performance.

D7000 FTMFW! Best of both worlds.

Screw full frame, it's overrated and past it's time.

 

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D7000 FTMFW! Best of both worlds.

Screw full frame, it's overrated and past it's time.

If it brings, full pro-weather proofing and a full metal body then I'm sure it would be. Till then lets wait for the D400!

 

[Light Artisan]

Weather sealed and partial metal body, good enough for this guy! D400 will rock, no doubt.

 

[Village Idiot]

The crop would be better for wildlife, sports, and photojournalism.

Common misconception, almost all wildlife / sports photography has to be done with available light, so having better ISO performance is something that I know I'd much rather have than a higher MP Count. Also Canon doesn't produce a 200-400mm f/4 lens which is perfect for both genres of photography!

Although you can use a flash in most photojournalistic situations, I'd also rather have higher ISO performance.

Personal preference then. A lot of the wildlife photographers on POTN use crop over full frame for the reach. A 7D with 1.6x crop Can get you a 480MM FOV with f/2.8 and IS.

 

[Derrel]

"The crop would be better for wildlife, sports, and photojournalism".

Hardly. Quite wrong, actually. Better High ISO performance is usually the more-desirable trait for sports and much wildlife use. For photojournalism, superb high ISO performance AND restoring the full field of view of all lenses is much more deirable than having a crop-sensor body...restoring the full-frame field of view of the 300/2.8 and 400/2.8 is an *advantage* in many indoor shooting scenarios. For those who have credentials, an are shooting from the baseline, sidelines, and from the close-in locations where real press shooters are allowed to be, crop-frame bodies are not all that desirable.

Crop-body sensors were simply a stop-gap measure. Most shooters who have been shooting longer than five or six years fully understand the benefits of having each and every lens have its full field of view. Both with wide-angle lenses, and with superteles. Even Canon's Chuck Westfall admits that the 1.3x crop is no longer desirable,and Canon may eliminate it...

 

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Crop-body sensors were simply a stop-gap measure

Although this is true for sports / journalism. I must say have a 1.5x crop body like the D300 making your 600mm lens a 900mm without the use of Teleconverters is actually really useful!

 

[Light Artisan]

I must say have a 1.5x crop body like the D300 making your 600mm lens a 900mm without the use of Teleconverters is actually really useful!

It doesn't make your 600mm a 900mm lens, it's still a 600mm lens showing the field of view of appriximately a 900mm lens.

 

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I must say have a 1.5x crop body like the D300 making your 600mm lens a 900mm without the use of Teleconverters is actually really useful!

It doesn't make your 600mm a 900mm lens, it's still a 600mm lens showing the field of view of appriximately a 900mm lens.

Effectively its a 900mm lens...

 

[3bayjunkie]

Crop-body sensors were simply a stop-gap measure

Although this is true for sports / journalism. I must say have a 1.5x crop body like the D300 making your 600mm lens a 900mm without the use of Teleconverters is actually really useful!

I think a lot of people miss interpret this. for example a 600mm will not have the compression of a 900mm telephoto.

Lets say you have a Nikon D300 and a 600mm lens; You would actually have a larger picture if you had a Canon 5D. You would actually be able to crop it in PP and you would be able to control how much you crop the image.

D300 = 12.1 @ 1.5 crop "900mm"
5D = 14.1 @ 1.5 crop "900mm"

So there you have it. Buy the Canon 5D over the Nikon300 if you want the larger photos.

Lets compare the D300 to the cropped 5D sensor

D300 = 23.6 x 15.8 @ 1.5 crop
5D = 24.0 x 16.0 @ 1.5 crop

so you see you are not losing any sensor quality either.

 

[Formatted]

So there you have it. Buy the Canon 5D over the Nikon300 if you want the larger photos.

Your point being? We were talking about cropped bodies vs full framed if you want a straight comparison talk about the D300 vs the D3 both of which have a 12.2 mp count.