Is it just me????

[kathyt]

I know that sometimes the written word can't completely express the feeling the poster is trying to convey, but is it me or does it seem that newbies really aren't welcomed here by some of the older Moderators/Experienced posters???? Maybe Sarcasm is just the way to answer the newbies posts????

I, personally, have a great deal of growth that I need. I know this and that is way I am seeking out a place to chat with other people either in the same boat as myself or have been in that boat. I'm starting to get the feeling that not only myself, but other "newbies" are really not wanted here and that we are pests by asking questions that are relevant to our level.

Or maybe I'm just not using the forum correctly? Am I supposed to just read and watch and not post as a newbie? Is there a preferred guideline that I missed???

Lisa

Might I suggest a great forum. Clickin' Moms is fantastic. It is the main photography forum I am on and it is amazing. If you want critique you will get critique w/o the fluff, but you will not get sarcastic comments. They are not necessary at all and in no way help the person grow as a photographer. Some of the things I have seen on here are rather disturbing and so hateful. If I was such an amazingly, talented photographer who had nothing to learn because all of my skills are so "TOP NOTCH" then I certainly would not have any time to be on a photography forum being hateful and condescending to others who are just trying to learn. My main career is an RN and I will never forget being a new grad and how terrified I was and the veterans who went above and beyond for me. Now I do the same in return.

 

[rexbobcat]

Might I suggest a great forum. Clickin' Moms is fantastic. It is the main photography forum I am on and it is amazing. If you want critique you will get critique w/o the fluff, but you will not get sarcastic comments. They are not necessary at all and in no way help the person grow as a photographer. Some of the things I have seen on here are rather disturbing and so hateful. If I was such an amazingly, talented photographer who had nothing to learn because all of my skills are so "TOP NOTCH" then I certainly would not have any time to be on a photography forum being hateful and condescending to others who are just trying to learn. My main career is an RN and I will never forget being a new grad and how terrified I was and the veterans who went above and beyond for me. Now I do the same in return.

Critiquing pictures of flowers gets boring, though. How better to spend time than to get sassy and snarky?

 

[kathyt]

Might I suggest a great forum. Clickin' Moms is fantastic. It is the main photography forum I am on and it is amazing. If you want critique you will get critique w/o the fluff, but you will not get sarcastic comments. They are not necessary at all and in no way help the person grow as a photographer. Some of the things I have seen on here are rather disturbing and so hateful. If I was such an amazingly, talented photographer who had nothing to learn because all of my skills are so "TOP NOTCH" then I certainly would not have any time to be on a photography forum being hateful and condescending to others who are just trying to learn. My main career is an RN and I will never forget being a new grad and how terrified I was and the veterans who went above and beyond for me. Now I do the same in return.

Critiquing pictures of flowers gets boring, though. How better to spend time than to get sassy and snarky?

Huh? Who says we can't have a little sass? I don't like to take pictures of flowers either, I find them rather boring as well. I prefer pretty people.

 

[Derrel]

Hey guys and gals! I find myself in need of a new tri-pod! Can somebody please tell me what one's a good one to get? I want it to be light, really solid, and under $75 if possible. Thxs.

 

[mjhoward]

Hey guys and gals! I find myself in need of a new tri-pod! Can somebody please tell me what one's a good one to get? I want it to be light, really solid, and under $75 if possible. Thxs.

Those are usually on the shelf next to the lenses that make the backgrounds blurry.

 

[kathyt]

Hey guys and gals! I find myself in need of a new tri-pod! Can somebody please tell me what one's a good one to get? I want it to be light, really solid, and under $75 if possible. Thxs.

If you have any old crutches laying around the house you could probably whip one up yourself that would do the trick!
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[IByte]

Don't listen to this guy^^^^^^ he's full of shat.
Lisa, just have fun. Don't worry about the sarcastic remakes. There are a lot of people here that are going to want to help you. Just try to do a little leg work yourself before you post questions. It will show people you are interested in learning.
Now get back out there, kiddo!!

Good Mishele I just made my fall chili and guess who's not going get any lol.

Lisa there's an unofficial mentors program where you can receive "one on one" critique from one of the season people here I recommend going that route also. I'm not just a spokesman, I'm also a client

 

[The_Traveler]

Might I suggest a great forum. Clickin' Moms is fantastic. It is the main photography forum I am on and it is amazing. If you want critique you will get critique w/o the fluff, but you will not get sarcastic comments. They are not necessary at all and in no way help the person grow as a photographer. Some of the things I have seen on here are rather disturbing and so hateful. If I was such an amazingly, talented photographer who had nothing to learn because all of my skills are so "TOP NOTCH" then I certainly would not have any time to be on a photography forum being hateful and condescending to others who are just trying to learn. My main career is an RN and I will never forget being a new grad and how terrified I was and the veterans who went above and beyond for me. Now I do the same in return.

Kathy,

You joined recently, posted one image so far and got useful, positive critique from those who responded.
In return for that treatment, it seems rather ungenerous, even discourteous, for you to advertise for somewhere else in a thread.

I can't speak for clickin' moms but what you generally get here at TPF is pretty much the unvarnished responses of what people think in the real world, without a great deal of butt-patting to make the OP feel better.
Generally, people get what they give.
In your posted picture, you showed a good deal of knowledge and skill, approached the thread as a serious person and got exactly the response you deserved.

LisaCadwell was treated fairly, no one was rude or mean. Her questions were answered and she was told how we think she should proceed.
If she interpreted unblemished talk as being harsh, that is something she would have to understand and get over.

 

[Fred Berg]

Interestingly, the ones who make sarcastic remarks are generally the ones who are going to kill themselves to help you when you ask the "right questions". I know it's tough, because how the heck are you going to know what the right questions are? Well... you can figure it out, by reading other posts here and by reading between the lines on their sarcastic responses.

#1 thing to do before you post... search.

In fact, this VERY thread you just posted? Yeah... we've seen this thread at least 3,000 times. And THAT is why the older folks get a bit tired of newbie questions.

This is true. Not long after I started here it was the Rabbit (then masquerading as Captain Kirk) who pointed out how terrible a set of photos I posted were. He was blunt and direct and I pulled him up on this; after which I got a tremendous amount of useful and worthwhile input from many, many members. I've stuck around even though I felt like a right idiot at the time and it would have been easier to fade away and find another forum where everyone is nice and chummy - but that wouldn't have helped me in the long term. I still feel like a bit of a newcomer, but one that is slowly being taken into the fold.


Stick around and post your photos. That's one of the main purposes of the forum after all.


Oh and by the way, he was right about my photos.

 

[bentcountershaft]

For fun, I checked out some old school threads. You want to see mean, nasty and how this forum was on a daily basis? Read this: http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photography-beginners-forum/214345-my-first-teen-shoot-c-c.html It was a modern day OK Corral.

Oh, the good old days of Petraio Prime. He was fun to work up.

 

[The_Traveler]

For fun, I checked out some old school threads. You want to see mean, nasty and how this forum was on a daily basis? Read this: http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photography-beginners-forum/214345-my-first-teen-shoot-c-c.html It was a modern day OK Corral.

Oh, the good old days of Petraio Prime. He was fun to work up.

N.B. that virtually all of the jerks on that thread are gone from here.

 

[Derrel]

For fun, I checked out some old school threads. You want to see mean, nasty and how this forum was on a daily basis? Read this: http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photography-beginners-forum/214345-my-first-teen-shoot-c-c.html It was a modern day OK Corral.

Oh, the good old days of Petraio Prime. He was fun to work up.

Gawd...I miss those days!!! That post went to 19 pages and 278 posts before it was mercifully Locked, and featured two posters who were later banned (two that I KNOW of that is!) That post was a classic case of 573.gif

Getting back to seriousness and Lisa's ORIGINAL POST: I'm not gonna name names, but in the past week I have seen some posts from Moderators which began with some very serious, heavy-handed sarcasm, and some frankly, hurtful,tactless commentary. I'm not naming names, but YES, in all earnestness, I have seen some recent comments directed at newbies, by Moderators, that were, I thought wayyyyy over the line, and which could easily be interpreted to be sarcastic or demeaning.

Note that I did not write "could be mis-interpreted to be sarcastic"--I wrote, "could easily be interpreted to be sarcastic or demeaning".

I actually considered PM'ing the two Mods in question, just to let them know that, hey...you know, these are noobs...and your little Moderator purple name tags cary with them additional weight...and responsibility...

 

[gsgary]

Critiquing pictures of flowers gets boring, though. How better to spend time than to get sassy and snarky?

And babies

 

[gsgary]

N.B. that virtually all of the jerks on that thread are gone from here.

Im still here

 

[bentcountershaft]

N.B. that virtually all of the jerks on that thread are gone from here.

Im still here

But you're a helpful jerk, Gary. There's a difference.