Is it just me????

[gsgary]

But you're a helpful jerk, Gary. There's a difference.

Im blushing im not used to compliments

 

[MLeeK]

Think of it this way: It's an initiation of sorts. If you make it past the poison darts you're in.
At the point where the newbies post this post they are either going to get hit with the dart and leave-or they'll be here for life. My post like this one was where my Canon FanGirl came from and I told them they were all "worse than a pack of Army wives having high tea."
They let me in the door. Or I annoyed them enough to leave me alone.

 

[texkam]

Huh? Who says we can't have a little sass? I don't like to take pictures of flowers either, I find them rather boring as well. I prefer pretty people.

^ OMG Kathy. All I can think of when I see this shot is Sir Mix A Lot, Baby Got Back.

 

[IByte]

Gawd...I miss those days!!! That post went to 19 pages and 278 posts before it was mercifully Locked, and featured two posters who were later banned (two that I KNOW of that is!) That post was a classic case of 573.gif

Getting back to seriousness and Lisa's ORIGINAL POST: I'm not gonna name names, but in the past week I have seen some posts from Moderators which began with some very serious, heavy-handed sarcasm, and some frankly, hurtful,tactless commentary. I'm not naming names, but YES, in all earnestness, I have seen some recent comments directed at newbies, by Moderators, that were, I thought wayyyyy over the line, and which could easily be interpreted to be sarcastic or demeaning.

Note that I did not write "could be mis-interpreted to be sarcastic"--I wrote, "could easily be interpreted to be sarcastic or demeaning".

I actually considered PM'ing the two Mods in question, just to let them know that, hey...you know, these are noobs...and your little Moderator purple name tags cary with them additional weight...and responsibility...

Great power comes, comes with great responsibility.

 

[manaheim]

Overall I'm pleased by Lisa's attitude and I think she'll do well here.

For whatever that's worth.

Which is probably nothing.

 

[Derrel]

Think of it this way: It's an initiation of sorts. If you make it past the poison darts you're in.
At the point where the newbies post this post they are either going to get hit with the dart and leave-or they'll be here for life. My post like this one was where my Canon FanGirl came from and I told them they were all "worse than a pack of Army wives having high tea."
They let me in the door. Or I annoyed them enough to leave me alone.

I used to tease MLeek and call her "mom." You know, the way a teenage daughter or son sneers out the word, "Moooooooooooommmmm!", and then gives an exasperated,big,long,drawn-out,huffy,pissy kind of Sigh!!!! but ya know, she got over it...she lectured me, threatened to ground me and take away my iPod, and, uh, now...she's on my Awesome List...

Lisa...I think MLeek and manaheim are telling you what I told you earlier...you are now "in". You passed the test. Boot camp is over!

 

[MLeeK]

Think of it this way: It's an initiation of sorts. If you make it past the poison darts you're in.
At the point where the newbies post this post they are either going to get hit with the dart and leave-or they'll be here for life. My post like this one was where my Canon FanGirl came from and I told them they were all "worse than a pack of Army wives having high tea."
They let me in the door. Or I annoyed them enough to leave me alone.

I used to tease MLeek and call her "mom." You know, the way a teenage daughter or son sneers out the word, "Moooooooooooommmmm!", and then gives an exasperated,big,long,drawn-out,huffy,pissy kind of Sigh!!!! but ya know, she got over it...she lectured me, threatened to ground me and take away my iPod, and, uh, now...she's on my Awesome List...

Lisa...I think MLeek and manaheim are telling you what I told you earlier...you are now "in". You passed the test. Boot camp is over!

Now I am just Leeky. Such a sad, sad state of affairs.

 

[kathyt]

Might I suggest a great forum. Clickin' Moms is fantastic. It is the main photography forum I am on and it is amazing. If you want critique you will get critique w/o the fluff, but you will not get sarcastic comments. They are not necessary at all and in no way help the person grow as a photographer. Some of the things I have seen on here are rather disturbing and so hateful. If I was such an amazingly, talented photographer who had nothing to learn because all of my skills are so "TOP NOTCH" then I certainly would not have any time to be on a photography forum being hateful and condescending to others who are just trying to learn. My main career is an RN and I will never forget being a new grad and how terrified I was and the veterans who went above and beyond for me. Now I do the same in return.

Kathy,

You joined recently, posted one image so far and got useful, positive critique from those who responded.
In return for that treatment, it seems rather ungenerous, even discourteous, for you to advertise for somewhere else in a thread.

I can't speak for clickin' moms but what you generally get here at TPF is pretty much the unvarnished responses of what people think in the real world, without a great deal of butt-patting to make the OP feel better.
Generally, people get what they give.
In your posted picture, you showed a good deal of knowledge and skill, approached the thread as a serious person and got exactly the response you deserved.

LisaCadwell was treated fairly, no one was rude or mean. Her questions were answered and she was told how we think she should proceed.
If she interpreted unblemished talk as being harsh, that is something she would have to understand and get over.

I completely agree that I posted an image for CC and recieved great feedback that was respectful and honest. What I was referring to above was some of the other people I was leaving CC for were getting completely blasted with rude and very hateful remarks. I just was rather taken back by it. I am not one for "fluff" in my critiques by any means, but there is a line between giving a valid, thoughtful critique vs. just random sarcastic responses. That is all I was getting at.

 

[LisaCadwell]

Don't listen to this guy^^^^^^ he's full of shat.
Lisa, just have fun. Don't worry about the sarcastic remakes. There are a lot of people here that are going to want to help you. Just try to do a little leg work yourself before you post questions. It will show people you are interested in learning.
Now get back out there, kiddo!!

Good Mishele I just made my fall chili and guess who's not going get any lol.

Lisa there's an unofficial mentors program where you can receive "one on one" critique from one of the season people here I recommend going that route also. I'm not just a spokesman, I'm also a client

Thanks - Actually Desi has been emailing me with a lot of help information! I feel better pictures coming on already.

 

[LisaCadwell]

LisaCadwell was treated fairly, no one was rude or mean. Her questions were answered and she was told how we think she should proceed.
If she interpreted unblemished talk as being harsh, that is something she would have to understand and get over.

Hey - Mr/Mrs Traveler...Just for the record.... I was referring to the overall treatment of newbies - Not just towards me. I think that I've only received two "harsher" replies and so what. They were right.

I watched a thread when a newbie asked a question about a lens and was flamed for his opinion about buying a used one verses a new one. I completely agreed with the old folks opinion even if he didn't but the thread became one huge "f-you". It was crazy and all involved were in the wrong. Couple that with other sassy/hurtful posts I've read and there you go... My post.

 

[LisaCadwell]

Think of it this way: It's an initiation of sorts. If you make it past the poison darts you're in.
At the point where the newbies post this post they are either going to get hit with the dart and leave-or they'll be here for life. My post like this one was where my Canon FanGirl came from and I told them they were all "worse than a pack of Army wives having high tea."
They let me in the door. Or I annoyed them enough to leave me alone.

I'm almost afraid to ask if that means the door is slowly going to open for me!!! LOL - it's either that or I can just kick the door in and Rambo my way around! I do have friends (said in a really terrible Italian accent)

 

[Overread16 4]

Hey Lisa, stick around....you're gonna do just fine here.

I'll second that From what you've written and your replies here you seem to have already gotten the grumpy/difficult ones eating out of your palm!


Though seriously much of the rough edge of the site has already been explained very well by others. I'll say as a mod of the site (since I appear to be the first one here) that if you ever do have problems with a member remember that you can report posts/private messages and that we do take them seriously and will, where possible take action. In addition there are other features on the site such as the ignore list which you can make use of if you find someone who riles you up somewhat more than is good.
You can also contact anyone on the mod team via pm - we're a friendly lot and will generally try to help with any issues that you have as much as we can.

I hope you have a good time on the site and that you can get some good rewards out of the experience

 

[MLeeK]

Think of it this way: It's an initiation of sorts. If you make it past the poison darts you're in.
At the point where the newbies post this post they are either going to get hit with the dart and leave-or they'll be here for life. My post like this one was where my Canon FanGirl came from and I told them they were all "worse than a pack of Army wives having high tea."
They let me in the door. Or I annoyed them enough to leave me alone.

I'm almost afraid to ask if that means the door is slowly going to open for me!!! LOL - it's either that or I can just kick the door in and Rambo my way around! I do have friends (said in a really terrible Italian accent)

Just charge forth. That's what I did!

 

[mishele]

Quoting Rambo ages you...just sayin

 

[panblue]

I know that sometimes the written word can't completely express the feeling the poster is trying to convey, but is it me or does it seem that newbies really aren't welcomed here by some of the older Moderators/Experienced posters???? Maybe Sarcasm is just the way to answer the newbies posts????

I, personally, have a great deal of growth that I need. I know this and that is way I am seeking out a place to chat with other people either in the same boat as myself or have been in that boat. I'm starting to get the feeling that not only myself, but other "newbies" are really not wanted here and that we are pests by asking questions that are relevant to our level.

Or maybe I'm just not using the forum correctly? Am I supposed to just read and watch and not post as a newbie? Is there a preferred guideline that I missed???

Lisa

hey Lisa...





BOO!!!!!!!!!!!


ok?

ok!