Kill me now..........

bruce282 · Mar 9, 2011

Not a GAGA fan, but it appears she hates web based news as opposed to print news. The photog for the Washington Post had a totally different release, no copyright change and no time lines for displaying their photos.

Bruce

e.rose · Mar 9, 2011

bruce282 said:
Not a GAGA fan, but it appears she hates web based news as opposed to print news. The photog for the Washington Post had a totally different release, no copyright change and no time lines for displaying their photos.

Bruce

Well I hate Nooks and Kindles, and would much prefer to buy a hard copy of books from my beloved Borders that's closing... so I understand her thinking in *that* respect... but... isn't that just sort of going against the times? Especially as a celebrity... to only prefer your promotion to be printed in newspapers rather than on the web? :lol:

What a strange bird she is. :lmao:

RockstarPhotography · Mar 9, 2011

ummm..... this is lady gaga.......i don't think anyone can fully figure out what goes on in her head.....

e.rose · Mar 9, 2011

RockstarPhotography said:
ummm..... this is lady gaga.......i don't think anyone can fully figure out what goes on in her head.....

True story. :lol:

jake337 · Mar 9, 2011

RockstarPhotography said:
e.rose said:

Ouch. Sounds like a tough night. :meh: Were you able to get *anything* useful? If not do they have another gig coming up in a better lit venue where you can try again?

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I haven't don't much editing to them yet so I'm not sure what turned out. I know one guitar player has a tv growing out of his head in every shot because there was no place to shoot from where it wouldn't be there. Luckily there not too worried about the live pictures, they mostly hired me to take band photos for their cd cover. I just went down to shoot them so I could get an idea of their band and what they wanted to do for the photos next weekend.

What you learned about the band for the cd cover shoot is more important than the live performance it seems. Use what you've learned to give them an amaing cd cover. If they want some more live shots at the same venue you will be more prepared. Could you come in early and hang two diffused flashes from the ceiling CR and CL? Could you or the band ask the bar manager to cut the tv's for at least a small part of the set(it never hurts to ask)? I would think the band would want this as well to bring more focus on to them. Is there room for tripod use? Longer shutter speeds and rear curtain flash?

RockstarPhotography · Mar 9, 2011

jake337 said:
RockstarPhotography said:

e.rose said:

Ouch. Sounds like a tough night. :meh: Were you able to get *anything* useful? If not do they have another gig coming up in a better lit venue where you can try again?

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I haven't don't much editing to them yet so I'm not sure what turned out. I know one guitar player has a tv growing out of his head in every shot because there was no place to shoot from where it wouldn't be there. Luckily there not too worried about the live pictures, they mostly hired me to take band photos for their cd cover. I just went down to shoot them so I could get an idea of their band and what they wanted to do for the photos next weekend.

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What you learned about the band for the cd cover shoot is more important than the live performance it seems. Use what you've learned to give them an amaing cd cover. If they want some more live shots at the same venue you will be more prepared. Could you come in early and hang two diffused flashes from the ceiling CR and CL? Could you or the band ask the bar manager to cut the tv's for at least a small part of the set(it never hurts to ask)? I would think the band would want this as well to bring more focus on to them. Is there room for tripod use? Longer shutter speeds and rear curtain flash?

I could probably hand lights up, but I would have to bring a pretty big ladder to get up there!..as far as the tv's The band said they forgot to tell them to shut them off, they only played one set, it was more of an "audition" for their new guitar player. I had basically went there to meet the band, get a feel for their music, and discuss their pictures with them. I just brought my camera along mostly for my own accord then anything, but they new I was shooting and I hate to have these pictures reflect who I am as a photographer. It was an off day, but i've never had an off day that bad before!

jake337 · Mar 9, 2011

I wouldn't consider it an off day. Your priority was to prepare for another shoot not the photos you were taking. If you accomplished that then it was a great day. If your priority was that set then you would have came prepared to take photos not to meet and greet.

imagemaker46 · Mar 9, 2011

If you are advertising yourself as a professional photographer then you are are expected to deal with any situation that comes along, regardless of how poor the conditions may end up being, if this was important enough to shoot then you should have known going in that the light wouldn't be that great, you pre-pick your spots in the room, show up with the right gear to do the job and not complain about how bad it all looks. If you understand light, regardless of how poor, you can shoot it. If you walk in stressed you will walk out stressed, and it you can't deliver something out of nothing, sell the gear and try something else. If you are being paid to do a job, make sure you have the skills to do it.

RockstarPhotography · Mar 9, 2011

imagemaker46 said:
If you are advertising yourself as a professional photographer then you are are expected to deal with any situation that comes along, regardless of how poor the conditions may end up being, if this was important enough to shoot then you should have known going in that the light wouldn't be that great, you pre-pick your spots in the room, show up with the right gear to do the job and not complain about how bad it all looks. If you understand light, regardless of how poor, you can shoot it. If you walk in stressed you will walk out stressed, and it you can't deliver something out of nothing, sell the gear and try something else. If you are being paid to do a job, make sure you have the skills to do it.

I wasn't being paid for this, I was meeting the band and just brought my camera along. Sorry we all can't be as perfect as you. ALL PROFESSIONALS HAVE OFF DAYS. Do you think every profesional sports player plays to their ability EVERY SINGLE DAY??... Your a fool if you think so, or you have no idea what it actually takes to do this job day in and day out.

The shots I got will turn out fine. They are just not up to MY standards I strive to achieve every single time.

Robin Usagani · Mar 9, 2011

lets see the pics

FattyMcJ · Mar 9, 2011

bruce282 said:
It could be worse. You could have been shooting the Lady GAGA concert in DC.

Check out the photo release.

http://images.tbd.com/entertainment/gaga-release.pdf

Bruce

Yeah, Gaga...she's....well yeah.... F* her.

Schwettylens said:
lets see the pics

+1

Also, where was the venue?

Off topic: It seems we're getting more and more CO photographers here on the forum...I think we should get together some time. I know Schwetty and I talked about it, and I know of at least 3 other local photographers that would be game. Let's ALL go shoot the bands! lol

RockstarPhotography · Mar 9, 2011

I'm up for it....

imagemaker46 · Mar 10, 2011

Well Rockstar, funny thing is that professionals use the term "rockstar" in reference to amateurs that think they are better then they really are, it's used as a joke. You did in your original post say that you were "hired" to shoot the band, and then it turns out to be just happen to show up with a camera and meet the band. So if that was the case why all the drama over the "I can't shoot this without light" if you weren't hired to do it, there is no pressure. Having off days as a professional, well yes we all do, however if you are being paid to produce then you better show up everyday, professional athletes are surrounded by other professional athletes as a team, a photographer is one person, and that one person is the only one that carries the blame for a poor shoot.

I've been a professional for over 35 years and have shot under pretty much every lighting condition and in more difficult situations than you've had hot meals, so lets not pretend that I don't know what it's like to work day in and day out. I just came off of an 18 day shoot, putting in 16-17 hours per day, and had to show up and produce quality every day, under constantly changing venues, light and extreme weather shifts. Along the way I shot a few songs at an outdoor concert in -20 weather. I'm honest with my opinions, and have the experience and skills to back up what I say.

RockstarPhotography · Mar 10, 2011

imagemaker46 said:
Well Rockstar, funny thing is that professionals use the term "rockstar" in reference to amateurs that think they are better then they really are, it's used as a joke. You did in your original post say that you were "hired" to shoot the band, and then it turns out to be just happen to show up with a camera and meet the band. So if that was the case why all the drama over the "I can't shoot this without light" if you weren't hired to do it, there is no pressure. Having off days as a professional, well yes we all do, however if you are being paid to produce then you better show up everyday, professional athletes are surrounded by other professional athletes as a team, a photographer is one person, and that one person is the only one that carries the blame for a poor shoot.

I've been a professional for over 35 years and have shot under pretty much every lighting condition and in more difficult situations than you've had hot meals, so lets not pretend that I don't know what it's like to work day in and day out. I just came off of an 18 day shoot, putting in 16-17 hours per day, and had to show up and produce quality every day, under constantly changing venues, light and extreme weather shifts. Along the way I shot a few songs at an outdoor concert in -20 weather. I'm honest with my opinions, and have the experience and skills to back up what I say.

I'm glad you can come on to this forum and make fun of my screen name, that was a nickname given to me by a dear friend. And I was "hired" to shoot the band, just not that night, I'm sorry I did not make that clear. I started this post just to chat and have a discussion. Did I ask for help?, no. I just stated it was a difficult time to shoot that night. I don't really cre how long you have been shooting. and if you think -20 is cold try working 14 hour days in -60 with wind chill. (i can one up you too). I also don't care how long you've been shooting. I've been playing guitar for 15 years and I still suck at it.

o hey tyler · Mar 10, 2011

imagemaker46 said:
I've been a professional for over 35 years and have shot under pretty much every lighting condition and in more difficult situations than you've had hot meals, so lets not pretend that I don't know what it's like to work day in and day out. I just came off of an 18 day shoot, putting in 16-17 hours per day, and had to show up and produce quality every day, under constantly changing venues, light and extreme weather shifts. Along the way I shot a few songs at an outdoor concert in -20 weather. I'm honest with my opinions, and have the experience and skills to back up what I say.

You keep saying this. You've been a professional for 35 years, etc. Yet you haven't posted any images or technical advice that you've garnered from all of your experience (that I've seen). Why don't you stop trying to pimp yourself out on a web forum? You can say "x" and "y", but with little credit to your name, you just come off as kind of a douche. People don't care about how many years you've been in the field, unless you are really into trying to urinate over a farther distance. Have you photographed any pissing contests?