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  • Mac

    Votes: 32 45.7%
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    Votes: 38 54.3%

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    70
This here thread inspired me to write to NASCAR about their racing. Thought I would CC: you all in on the letter I sent them.

Dear NASCAR,

Me and bunch of other fellers were discussing computers totherday and was marvelin over how much some of them there fancy computers cost. There be a whole mess a folks that build their own computers out of cheaper parts and they swear that they be just a good r even better then them machines what is engineered to exacting specifications. Heck if’n that there be tru, why yoall could save a heap of money if you would quite using all them high priced stuff and start racing on the cheap. Here be a list what we done come up with to save money.

1. quite using that high priced custom blended gasoline. The quickie-mart selling regular unleaded for $2.51 a gallon. If you wanta save even more on fuel costs, buy all your hotdogs, nachos and beer that you sell at the refreshment stands at Kroger. Fer evey $100 you spend on groceries you get a dime off on your gas. Heck if you were to by $1000 worth a food from them theyed give you a hole dollar off per gallon.

2. Quit using them there fancy racing tires. These here tires from walmart only be $408.00 a set and they come with a 50,000 mileage guarentee. Shoot them cars could go a whole season on just one or to set a tires instead of putting on them fancy racing tires ever 100 miles or so.

3. Quite using them fancy frames and bodies and such. One of the fellers was telling how the bestes car he ever had was a 1980 Pinto. Go get a whole bunch of them there suckers from the salvage yard and give them out to all the fellers you got racing. Won’t need near as many of them there dang ole pit stops to fix stuff and adjust stuff an all. Weld a plate behind the gas tank though, them pintos tend to blow up if you hit em in from behind. Heck if you want some real fun letem use Chevy Vegas and AMC gremlins too.

4. Oh yeah, use Seran wrap on them windshields stead of them fancy tear offs. Hole roll of seran wrap is only $2.25.

5. Quite putting all that fancy roll bars window nets and such in the cars. Just roll the windows down and they don’t need all that stuff nor them fancy water drinking things Get a good cup holder for the window and a 64oz slurpy from the 7-11 and them boys be good fer the whole race.

6. Stop using them there fancy dancy engines. The 2.3L 88hp pinto engine was a doozy. Why I bet you could overclock that thing to 93 or 94 hp easy. What more does a feller need? Look how much you will save on them dang restrictor plates. Don’t need one on a Pinto motor.

Well, hope me an the boys have given ya some good idears for improving NASCAR. Looking forward to the changes. Shoot, you might even be able to get the cub scouts to sponser it since it will be more like the pinewood derby they run.



Boogitie, boogitie boogitie. :mrgreen:
 
Again.. repeat.. I'm not saying one is better than the other. Simply explaining why things are the way they are. Get over it.. you are starting to sound like a kid ranting.

Envy isn't a good thing. Be happy with your choices... obviously you are. Nothing wrong with that. But don't pick an argument over some elses choices.

Nothing is going over my head guy.

LOL envy?

Ya I am jealous of people with too much money and not enough tech savvy. Thats it, you got me.

Thats the 2nd time you accused me of "envy", and it seems that your status as a Mac user is important to you, as well as thinking you are better than others and that everyone is jealous of you. Trust me I am not.

I think this is really funny because guess what, my PC will smoke any Mac you have in most apps by a long shot. Trust me I am not jealous at all.

I also have the freedom to upgrade what I want, any time I want.

If being a Mac user means acting like you, and getting a complex about how much better you precious Mac is than PCs, then I know that its not for me.

You ARE saying its better, because you are implying it without outright saying "Apple is better".

Its the same thing, you dont have to actually say "Apple is better" to imply it. Look up imply in the dictionary if you dont understand this part.

You just keep trying to justify the high price, and say that they are made from better components. This is not true, they DO NOT use superior components over PCs.

I simply said that Apples are overpriced, thats all. Am I not entitled to my opinion on this?

This is a fact, and I can prove it all day long.

With an unlimited budget I can build a PC thats far better than any Mac. This is because custom PCs have the absolute best components available for use in them, and Macs DO NOT.

I can admit that they are nice, so why can't you admit they are overpriced?
 
I was an apple user before there ever was a PC. It worked fine and did what I wanted it to do. I wound up switching to PC in about 1999 when I needed Windows for work compatibility and work bought my computer for me.

Now, many years later, I use Dell XPS 8100 i7-860 running Win 7 and it works fine and lightning-fast for CS5/LR3/GF 6.0. It cost me (from Dell Outlet Store -- Scratch/Dent) all of about $750. I can probably buy 3 of them for the price of a Mac Tower. The difference in price between my machine and a Mac Tower bought me more glass. Is it better than a Mac? I have no idea. It does my job fast and reliably and that's what counts to me.
 
Again.. repeat.. I'm not saying one is better than the other. Simply explaining why things are the way they are. Get over it.. you are starting to sound like a kid ranting.

Envy isn't a good thing. Be happy with your choices... obviously you are. Nothing wrong with that. But don't pick an argument over some elses choices.

Nothing is going over my head guy.

LOL envy?

Ya I am jealous of people with too much money and not enough tech savvy. Thats it, you got me.

Thats the 2nd time you accused me of "envy", and it seems that your status as a Mac user is important to you, as well as thinking you are better than others and that everyone is jealous of you. Trust me I am not.

I think this is really funny because guess what, my PC will smoke any Mac you have in most apps by a long shot. Trust me I am not jealous at all.

I also have the freedom to upgrade what I want, any time I want.

If being a Mac user means acting like you, and getting a complex about how much better you precious Mac is than PCs, then I know that its not for me.

You ARE saying its better, because you are implying it without outright saying "Apple is better".

Its the same thing, you dont have to actually say "Apple is better" to imply it. Look up imply in the dictionary if you dont understand this part.

You just keep trying to justify the high price, and say that they are made from better components. This is not true, they DO NOT use superior components over PCs.

I simply said that Apples are overpriced, thats all. Am I not entitled to my opinion on this?

This is a fact, and I can prove it all day long.

With an unlimited budget I can build a PC thats far better than any Mac. This is because custom PCs have the absolute best components available for use in them, and Macs DO NOT.

I can admit that they are nice, so why can't you admit they are overpriced?


Wrong. Any pc that you can build can also be built as a Mac. Hardware is hardware. Any hard drive can be formatted to NTSF or HFS+ Electricity is Electricity, there is no MAC electricity or PC electricity etc. It all comes down to the OS and a Unix based system is not that tough to write mods for.

If you like windows use a PC. if you like OSX use a Mac. There is only one really big difference between a Mac and a PC.

 
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Custom builds are significantly cheaper than high end machines of any other brand. Yet, mo one ever starts Custom versus <insert PC brand here> threads? So then ask, why all the PC's versus Macs flame war threads?? The only conclusion I can come to lies within the idiotic and immature notion that one must justify their own choices externally... especially when the alternative is an expensive one.

LOL, are you serious???

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT YOU CANNOT BUILD A CUSTOM MAC

I wasnt flaming anything, I truly was curious how many people used each platform.

You pretty much started all of this, talking about how good you think Macs are.

For everyone else reading this, go back and look at the first two pages and you will see I am right...
 
Wrong. Any pc that you can build can also be built as a Mac. Hardware is hardware. Any hard drive can be formatted to NTSF or HFS+ Electricity is Electricity, there is no MAC electricity or PC electricity etc. It all comes down to the OS and a Unix based system is not that tough to write mods for.

If you like windows use a PC. if you like OSX use a Mac. There is only one really big difference between a Mac and a PC.

Ok maybe I am missing something...

Are you saying that you can install OSX on any hardware?

I was pretty sure until now that it had to be only certain types, and you have to use their specific case, etc.

If you had to even just use their case, then you cannot use any hardware, as some motherboards would not fit the form factor.

Please explain this...
 
Wrong. Any pc that you can build can also be built as a Mac. Hardware is hardware. Any hard drive can be formatted to NTSF or HFS+ Electricity is Electricity, there is no MAC electricity or PC electricity etc. It all comes down to the OS and a Unix based system is not that tough to write mods for.

If you like windows use a PC. if you like OSX use a Mac. There is only one really big difference between a Mac and a PC.

Ok maybe I am missing something...

Are you saying that you can install OSX on any hardware?

I was pretty sure until now that it had to be only certain types, and you have to use their specific case, etc.

If you had to even just use their case, then you cannot use any hardware, as some motherboards would not fit the form factor.

Please explain this...

Thats why it's called a Hackintosh. http://lifehacker.com/321913/build-a-hackintosh-mac-for-under-800 Just one example.

We just don't make a big deal out of it like some builders do. Why do you think linux came about. A unix based system that unlike Apple OSX isn't proprietary. It's open source.
 
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Anyone can buy any computer they want... from an Apple to a PC to a one-off Linux system. Anyone trying to imply one is better than the other and that owners of the other are somehow evious... has some serious insecurity issues.

Do your own research, make an informed choice, and give fanbois from either camp the finger.
 
The main difference i've found with using both a mac and PC is that the PC tends to get clogged up and gradually slows down, especially if it is not a dedicated photo editing machine and other software is installed.

I tend to find that PC's need replacing more often than my mac, which I've had for 3/4 years without any issues.

Hope this helps!
 
I use a PC, for several reasons.

1) It's fun as hell to build them, and you get a lot more bang for your buck that way no matter which company you're comparing it to (especially when you overclock).

2) I'm running a server that does a lot besides hosting and backing up my files. Basically, my home network is set up "business" style - I can log onto any PC I want, whether it's at my desk or on my TV, and all my programs, files, settings, etc, will all be there. Integrating a mac into this setup is just way more trouble than it's worth.

3) I prefer programs that give you full control over every parameter possible instead of leaving out a lot just to make it "user friendly". Windows and Linux (I run both) tend to have more programs that fall under this category than Mac does.

4) There really isn't any software I need that's only available on Mac. If there was I wouldn't mind getting one, but so far there hasn't been a reason to.


At the end of the day computers are just tools, and it's up to you to pick the tool that's best for the job you want it to do.
 
I wasnt flaming anything, I truly was curious how many people used each platform.

You pretty much started all of this, talking about how good you think Macs are.

For everyone else reading this, go back and look at the first two pages and you will see I am right...

SNIP

You ARE saying its better, because you are implying it without outright saying "Apple is better".

Its the same thing, you dont have to actually say "Apple is better" to imply it. Look up imply in the dictionary if you dont understand this part.

You just keep trying to justify the high price, and say that they are made from better components. This is not true, they DO NOT use superior components over PCs.

This is the most immature crap...

The good things I posted about MAC or the explanations I offer imply nothing about PCs nor Windows.

I have said nothing negative about PCs.... In fact, i was the one that told you to stick with PC/Windows. I too have several machines... some servers (windows), a couple workstations (MAC OS X), and a netbook (Hackintosh).

Have you ever thought that PCs and Macs are both good? (I've said that in my responses already) Can I say Macs are "great" and why I like them without implying anything about PCs?

Why so defensive? I can only think there are some serious emotional issues on the other end...
 
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I would rather die than use a Mac. I hate Apple as a company. Not because Mac's are bad... Macs do what they were designed to do very well... I would rather die than use a Mac because Apple fanbois are the swine of the Earth.

Now that I've expressed that opinion, I will kindly run out the door. :biggrin:
 
This is the most immature crap...

The good things I posted about MAC or the explanations I offer imply nothing about PCs nor Windows.

I have said nothing negative about PCs.... In fact, i was the one that told you to stick with PC/Windows. I too have several machines... some servers (windows), a couple workstations (MAC OS X), and a netbook (Hackintosh).

Have you ever thought that PCs and Macs are both good? (I've said that in my responses already) Can I say Macs are "great" and why I like them without implying anything about PCs?

Why so defensive? I can only think there are some serious emotional issues on the other end...

I am finished discussing this with you.

You have resorted to calling names, and saying things like that I am envious of you. Not of even of Macs, just you. This is completely absurd lol.

I don't feel like wasting any more time responding to this garbage.

Everything was fine here until you showed up and started preaching about how superior Macs are.
 
Hey buddy...

I'm not the one who blurted out how their custom PC is better/cheaper.... how fast it is...

I'm not the one who took each and every positive remark as a negative one...


I never said Macs are Superior... nor better...

In fact I agree with yah that they are expensive.... I simply explained why... but again over the top of that head of yours..

The only reason why it seems expensive is that there are no cheaper alternatives.

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Apple memory freakin expensive for the Powermac workstation line.
 
Thats why it's called a Hackintosh. Build a Hackintosh Mac for Under $800 Just one example.

We just don't make a big deal out of it like some builders do. Why do you think linux came about. A unix based system that unlike Apple OSX isn't proprietary. It's open source.

Never heard of it.

This is interesting stuff

I would assume that you are still limited to certain hardware when doing this

The reason that I say this is because I highly doubt there would be drivers for hardware not sanctioned by Apple.

I could be wrong on this though...
 

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