Michael Phelps

spiffybeth · Aug 13, 2008

kundalini said:
.... but why am I constantly reminded on TV adverts that a little blue pill will let me throw a football threw a swinging tire? (I may have the wrong color for that example)

ahahaha. drugs ARE the answer!!!!

spiffybeth · Aug 13, 2008

Alex_B said:
we left the role model discussion a bit anyway.
Of course you always have the choice. but people are prone to rather poor choices, some more, and some less. But once under bad influence, the probability for poor choice increases dramatically. Be it role models. peer pressure, puberty-induced pseudo-protest ... and once you are on the wrong track, and people around you are on the same track, it is very hard to turn back.

no one is born as a complete personality.

(im going to stay on the topic of role models for the sake of this conversation though ill leave role models if you want me to)

influences are all around us, no one disputes that. but someone like michael phelps, who in theory isnt directly touching the lives of the people that he's a role model for, it would be ridiculous for them to say well michael phelps drank a few beers and drove, so i can too.
in my many experiences with this type of stuff, it has nothing to do with role models and everything to do with who youre with.....
if my friends think i can only drink 4 beers, ill be a p***y, so i have to not be drunk and im ok to drive. or my parents said i have to be home by 12 and its 1153pm so i have to drive now and theyd be pissed if they knew i was drinking, so i have to fake being sober...
its that type of mentality rather that leads to drunk driving rather than the influence of the role model.

Corry · Aug 13, 2008

Hmmm, well, a few things I feel like touching on.

I don't support drunk driving. I think it's horrible, and I know 3 children that I'm very close to who are growing up without a mother because of it (she was the one drunk . . . 3 times the legal limit).

HOWEVER.

1) I don't know about there, but in Illinois, .08 IS the legal limit. Granted, he was underage, so .00001 is over the limit. . . . and admittedly, I'm not sure if .08 gets you arrested, or .09 does, but either way, it's right on that line, and I have no doubt that it's pretty hard to tell if you're over that line. I am in NO WAY condoning drinking and driving, and as Phelps himself said, what he did was wrong.

But . . .

2) . . . if what Beth said is true, and he went around to schools giving talks, as well as the normal punishments, then, no, he didn't 'get away with it.' The judge noted that he was a public figure, and the judge noted that people look up to him and his actions. That is why he would have had to publicly go around and give these speeches and talk about how what he did was wrong.

If he continued to drink and drive, then I'd agree with you (senor) 100%, but as far as we know, he didn't. He paid a price. Should he never be given another chance? Should he not be allowed to make up for it and move forward?

How fair is that?

And you compared him to Lyndsay Lohan? Apples to oranges, my friend. Lyndsay Lohan has had multiple offenses, and continues, to this day, to party and act outrageously.

From what I can tell, Michael Phelps has not continued that behavior.

If it comes out in the news tomorrow that Phelps goes on wild drinking binges and then hops in his car to go road sodeyin', then yeah, I'll be right there with you.

Until then, in my eyes, he's an Olympic Hero who made a mistake once, paid the price, and learned his lesson.

spiffybeth · Aug 13, 2008

"Under the terms of his probation, Phelps must give speeches to students at three Wicomico county schools by June 1, advising youngsters about making choices and warning them about the dangers of alcohol."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/08/national/main654380.shtml

edit: AND this article talks about people who look up to him and have him as a role model.

Chiller · Aug 13, 2008

I think everyone makes mistakes in their lives, whether you are famous or some yahoo like me. I will admit during my band days, and my party days, I drank till I could not see, and did some chemicals that I should not have done. Yes, one night,and only one night, I drove and could barely see out my window. I was young, stoopid, and a complete idiot. It was a mistake and thankfully, I did not hit anyone or anything .. But it also only takes one night to do damage that can not be reversed
I am clean now. I have not touched anything for 15 years. But that day where I drove and should not have still plays in my head. We laughed at it like we were invincible.
I think what Im saying , is this Phelps guy has put that behind him, like a lot of people, and now supports his swimming. The media will always find the bad in a celebraty, to bring them down. Just like some chick will be coming forward next and saying she made a porn movie with him. :lol:

:lmao:

Just my 3 cents, cause our dollar is not worth as much as y'alls.

Back to my crypt

spiffybeth · Aug 13, 2008

speaking of phelps, he's on now.

Chiller · Aug 13, 2008

spiffybeth said:
speaking of phelps, he's on now.

What is he doing.

spiffybeth · Aug 13, 2008

lol, swimming.
he just won a heat.

Hawaii Five-O · Aug 13, 2008

All I know is those underwater cameras take better pictures than me, and they are robots!!

:lmao:

I htink they should put Phelps up against the fastest female swimmer at the olympics and see who wins. That would be interesting. I wonder who would win?

A woman would be sleeker and lighter, but phelps would have more weight to cut through the water.

kundalini · Aug 13, 2008

Not to go too far off topic, but a little while ago, May/Walsh of the US defeated Norway in Womens Beach Volleyball and that made 104 matches on the trot.