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[Emanuel M]

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[Designer]

Yeah I know...that's why I waited to get more experienced in photography...I have been using budget lens and now that I feel like I know a little more? (So I think) I wanted to make the move now if It's better ....rather than buy new lens for a dx and wishing that I started the collection with the fx ...and have to start all over again with all new lenses

Frankly, not only can you use the FX lenses on a DX body, you can also switch into "DX mode" and use DX lenses on the FX body.

Now I'm sure that sounds confusing, but when you think you wish to move up (in cost, at least) to FX, you probably should have some idea of WHY you want to do that. One legitimate reason is for newer technology. Another might be for better low-light performance. Yet another might be for the more shallow depth of field of an FX sensor. Or, shoot; maybe you just have a couple thousand extra dollars burning a hole in your pocket, and "need" the larger format.

Whatever the reason you decide, you don't have to make all your lenses "fit" the new format, as the new format can be operated in DX mode for those DX lenses you still have.

 

[astroNikon]

A DX lens does not change the focal length of the lens.
a 50mm is a 50mm no matter if on a 1.7" a MFT, a APS-C or FF sensor.
The field of view is changed due to the cropping factor .. a technical thing but still in essence it gives perceived view of a smaller image circle. ==> Camera Sensor Crop Factor and Equivalent Lens Focal Length

I've had a d7000 that I recently sold. It was the predecessor to the d7100 and d7200. A great camera. But no low light competition to my d600 full frame.
FYI, with the d7000, other than the kit lens, I only bought FF lenses for it so when I switched to FF I only had to buy a FF body.

My d600 also cropped better than the d7000 (16mp sensor) for distant objects. I didn't compare it to a 24mp d7100 APS-C sensor though.

 

[astroNikon]

here's from a previous post I did
but it helps to understand how to calculate a Field of View based upon sensor size in relation to the focal length

The size of the sensor determines the "crop"
35mm FullFrame sensor = 1 to 1
APS-C sensor = 1.5x (or 1.6x) to 1
other smaller sizes increase that amount ==> https://lensvid.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Sensors-size-01-01.jpg
as below - crop factor is the 4th row.

You then take that crop factor, such as 1.5x for APS-C and multiple it to the lens focal length.
So a 18-55 on a APS-C sensor would
18 x 1.5 - 55 x 1.5 = 27 - 82.5 in perceived field of view

 

[480sparky]

NO.....just NO
...'spain with your visual/multimedia,Sparky,please.....it helped me get my head wrapped around that.

You mean this post?

 

[N1kon1k]

Thanks guys really appreciate all the input and the time to explain things better to me...like "astroNikon" mentioned I was thinking of the D750 just because of the new technology and low light.... But if I am going to jeopardize depth of field I might want to invest on the D7200 for now and start buying better lens...as it is both the D750 or D7200 have better sensors, technology, and MP than my D5100 so I'm sure the performance will be noticeable... I also am planning on blowing up my pics and put them in my business and home so megapixels will definitely be a need...

Thanks for the diagram..I will look into it a bit more and try to understand it...

 

[480sparky]

I'd say go for the 7200. Use your DX glass for a while and see if you're where you want to be. If so, you're all set. If you decide you need to up your stable of lenses, start looking into FX glass. Replace one lens at a time, especially if your budget is a big constraint. Eventually, you'll have enough good glass to switch to the D750, or whatever Nikon has at that point in the future. Who knows, you may get the mythical D400, or a D850, or D900.

 

[N1kon1k]

Ha ha thanks 480sparky... Will do...I think that's the best and logical way to go...I can always sell my older stuff to someone that's just starting out afterwards...

 

[goodguy]

I own the D750, aweosme camera and if you can afford it over the D7200 then get it, the D7200 is an amazing camera too, in my eyes the best APS-C camera in the market.
Maybe a third option, if your main interest is Landscaping the Nikon D610 will be just as good for that as the D750, the D750 advanced AF system is not really important here nor is the slightly better low light performance.

 

[Emanuel M]

Even the D600 and D700 are better
Yesterday I saw a D700 with a kit lens for 600$ - used, but in great shape.
I was tempted

 

[N1kon1k]

I own the D750, aweosme camera and if you can afford it over the D7200 then get it, the D7200 is an amazing camera too, in my eyes the best APS-C camera in the market.
Maybe a third option, if your main interest is Landscaping the Nikon D610 will be just as good for that as the D750, the D750 advanced AF system is not really important here nor is the slightly better low light performance.

Thanks good guy... And yes I agree. I am going to take a look at the D610 ...didnt really looked at that one... I was interested in the D750 because of the low light performance for night photography since I will be doing both landscape and night photography...

But I think Nikon makes awesome cameras no matter what... Sure some cameras are tweaked for different things...but at the end is all about the lens and the guy behind the camera... Thanks for the input

 

[goodguy]

I own the D750, aweosme camera and if you can afford it over the D7200 then get it, the D7200 is an amazing camera too, in my eyes the best APS-C camera in the market.
Maybe a third option, if your main interest is Landscaping the Nikon D610 will be just as good for that as the D750, the D750 advanced AF system is not really important here nor is the slightly better low light performance.

Thanks good guy... And yes I agree. I am going to take a look at the D610 ...didnt really looked at that one... I was interested in the D750 because of the low light performance for night photography since I will be doing both landscape and night photography...

But I think Nikon makes awesome cameras no matter what... Sure some cameras are tweaked for different things...but at the end is all about the lens and the guy behind the camera... Thanks for the input

The D610 and D750 have very similar sensor, the D750 is a step up from the D610 in almost every way but when doing landscaping the D610 and D750 are about equal so while I personally still would want the D750 for my needs I think for a mainly landscape photographer the D610 is just as good and you save some money at the same time.

Good luck

 

[N1kon1k]

I own the D750, aweosme camera and if you can afford it over the D7200 then get it, the D7200 is an amazing camera too, in my eyes the best APS-C camera in the market.
Maybe a third option, if your main interest is Landscaping the Nikon D610 will be just as good for that as the D750, the D750 advanced AF system is not really important here nor is the slightly better low light performance.

Thanks good guy... And yes I agree. I am going to take a look at the D610 ...didnt really looked at that one... I was interested in the D750 because of the low light performance for night photography since I will be doing both landscape and night photography...

But I think Nikon makes awesome cameras no matter what... Sure some cameras are tweaked for different things...but at the end is all about the lens and the guy behind the camera... Thanks for the input

The D610 and D750 have very similar sensor, the D750 is a step up from the D610 in almost every way but when doing landscaping the D610 and D750 are about equal so while I personally still would want the D750 for my needs I think for a mainly landscape photographer the D610 is just as good and you save some money at the same time.

Good luck

Just read a few things and the D750 is the middle child between the D610 AND the D810... I briefly read that the D600 used to have dust on it so they upgraded it the new keep the D610...

one of the things I just remembered that made me think of the D750 was the tilt screen since I have it on my D5100
I actually use the tilt screen a lot believe it or not...
I don't have much experience with photography but maybe there is a reason why high end models have fixed screens...

 

[dannylightning]

610 is a great camera but it does not have the latest and greatest technology but most landscape photogrophers would be very happy with it., buy the 750 if you want better low light ( less noise at high ISO) and video performance, i cant remember why but the 750 is said to be one of the best nikon cameras for video.

if your not getting getting noisy photos from high iso the 610 or the 7200 may be a good choice if you want to pay a little less. if you are doing landscapes and you are using a tripod in low light situations, you can keep the iso at 100, use a longer shutter speed and you will not need to worry about noise from high iso. if you are hand holding in low light you cant use a slow shutter speed or you get blurred images and the iso will need to be cranked up which can cause noise.

personally i would pick the D7200 over the D610 but that is just me, i think its better for what i do with a camera, for land scapes the 610 is probably going to be a bit better. if i were going to buy a full frame i would get the D750, its seems its kind of made to be good at everything and has awesome low light performance.

i think your first step should be getting your self a good FX lens or two to use for your landscapes, and that will give you time to decide on what body you want to get if you are not sure on which one you want yet.

sigma and tamron both make a 17-50mm f/2.8 lens that people really seem to like allot and they are affordable compared to allot of lenses, they are very sharp and 2.8 is good in low light. its a constant 2.8 lens so no matter what focal length you are at you can use the lens at 2.8 if you want to. the f stop can be changed to f/8 or what ever you want, its not always at f/2.8 unless you want it to be. if you are concerned about low light that wold be a nice lens to get.

the nikon 70-300mm f/4-5.6 G ED VR lens is another lens that is somewhat affordable and people really seem to love. its very good for landscapes, you can start getting in to wild life shots of you can get somewhat close to the wild life and its also taking photos of people. my friend has one, i have seen many pics posted here taken with that lens and its outstanding for the money. there is a nikon, tamron and sigma 70-200 f/2.8 lenses as well but there a bit more money.

when buying a sigma lens if the lens is marked EX it is full frame. if marked DC it is a crop sensor lens. not sure how tamron labels full frame vs crop.. sigma makes some very nice lenses for less money compared to the big name brands, not all of their lenses are great but allot of them are. some of the newer ones are getting up there in price but allot of there new lenses are really nice.

if you ever get a d7200 or a full frame camera you can get some of the older nikon lenses that are excellent but do not have a built in focus motor. the 7200 and the full frames all have a built in focus motor in the body so you do not need a lens with a focus motor built in. you can get some excellent old nikon lenes used that do not have a built in focus motor between 50 and 400 bucks that some say are comparable to some of the really expensive nikon lenses of today as far as image quality goes.

 

[N1kon1k]

610 is a great camera but it does not have the latest and greatest technology but most landscape photogrophers would be very happy with it., buy the 750 if you want better low light ( less noise at high ISO) and video performance, i cant remember why but the 750 is said to be one of the best nikon cameras for video.

if your not getting getting noisy photos from high iso the 610 or the 7200 may be a good choice if you want to pay a little less. if you are doing landscapes and you are using a tripod in low light situations, you can keep the iso at 100, use a longer shutter speed and you will not need to worry about noise from high iso. if you are hand holding in low light you cant use a slow shutter speed or you get blurred images and the iso will need to be cranked up which can cause noise.

personally i would pick the D7200 over the D610 but that is just me, i think its better for what i do with a camera, for land scapes the 610 is probably going to be a bit better. if i were going to buy a full frame i would get the D750, its seems its kind of made to be good at everything and has awesome low light performance.

i think your first step should be getting your self a good FX lens or two to use for your landscapes, and that will give you time to decide on what body you want to get if you are not sure on which one you want yet.

sigma and tamron both make a 17-50mm f/2.8 lens that people really seem to like allot and they are affordable compared to allot of lenses, they are very sharp and 2.8 is good in low light. its a constant 2.8 lens so no matter what focal length you are at you can use the lens at 2.8 if you want to. the f stop can be changed to f/8 or what ever you want, its not always at f/2.8 unless you want it to be. if you are concerned about low light that wold be a nice lens to get.

the nikon 70-300mm f/4-5.6 G ED VR lens is another lens that is somewhat affordable and people really seem to love. its very good for landscapes, you can start getting in to wild life shots of you can get somewhat close to the wild life and its also taking photos of people. my friend has one, i have seen many pics posted here taken with that lens and its outstanding for the money. there is a nikon, tamron and sigma 70-200 f/2.8 lenses as well but there a bit more money.

when buying a sigma lens if the lens is marked EX it is full frame. if marked DC it is a crop sensor lens. not sure how tamron labels full frame vs crop.. sigma makes some very nice lenses for less money compared to the big name brands, not all of their lenses are great but allot of them are. some of the newer ones are getting up there in price but allot of there new lenses are really nice.

if you ever get a d7200 or a full frame camera you can get some of the older nikon lenses that are excellent but do not have a built in focus motor. the 7200 and the full frames all have a built in focus motor in the body so you do not need a lens with a focus motor built in. you can get some excellent old nikon lenes used that do not have a built in focus motor between 50 and 400 bucks that some say are comparable to some of the really expensive nikon lenses of today as far as image quality goes.

I use ISO 100 probably 90% of the time with a long exposure on night shots... With my D5100 noise is definitely an issue specially since I am using a 55mm lens. However buying a new lens with a better aperture will definitely boost my chances... You may be onto something as far as lens... Just convinced my girlfriend to get me a lens for Christmas....so guess the lens will be free...ha ha... This will help me with making a hasty decision... Once again thanks for the input.... Which lens would you recommend? From tamron? Do you know the model?