Not EVERY potrait must be shot in portrait orientation!

[Compaq]

I checked out TPF before I went to bed,
Not expecting to read this thread.
I saw a pic of kundalini,
Nothing in it seemed to be mini,

And I j••••• in my pants.

 

[Josh66]

You saw kundalini, then you did what in your pants...?

 

[shortpants]

You saw kundalini, then you did what in your pants...?

Let's not even try to decipher

 

[kundalini]

You saw kundalini, then you did what in your pants...?

As self-absorbed as I am, I really don't want to know the answer that.

 

[enzodm]

But was this shot in vertical or horizontal orientation?

 

[Compaq]

Did no one get the link to the lonely islands?? :O

 

[Derrel]

What is the difference between an architect and a framer? What is the difference between a surgeon, and a practical nurse? What is the difference between a "photographer" and "a Mom With a Camera or a Guy With a Camera"? The answer is mastery of the field, and education.

Becoming an architect, a surgeon, or a photographer demands education, and studying, and effort. It is obvious to that the vast majority of responders in this thread are seriously lacking in photographic and artistic education, and have made absolutely ZERO effort to learn anything about visual communication. On a forum where the number one book suggestion is one about learning how to expose properly (what a joke!), it's probably no surprise that the majority will happy-snap along in ignorant bliss, snapping "portraits" that are the equivalent of macaroni art, simply because they lack education in the visual arts. Again, enjoy your Kraft macaroni and cheese and Pepsi dinners! Enjoy your Justin Bieber music! Enjoy your Craigslist clients!

 

[ghache]

What is the difference between an architect and a framer? What is the difference between a surgeon, and a practical nurse? What is the difference between a "photographer" and "a Mom With a Camera or a Guy With a Camera"? The answer is mastery of the field, and education.

Becoming an architect, a surgeon, or a photographer demands education, and studying, and effort. It is obvious to that the vast majority of responders in this thread are seriously lacking in photographic and artistic education, and have made absolutely ZERO effort to learn anything about visual communication. On a forum where the number one book suggestion is one about learning how to expose properly (what a joke!), it's probably no surprise that the majority will happy-snap along in ignorant bliss, snapping "portraits" that are the equivalent of macaroni art, simply because they lack education in the visual arts. Again, enjoy your Kraft macaroni and cheese and Pepsi dinners! Enjoy your Justin Bieber music! Enjoy your Craigslist clients!

HAHAHAHA, number one book on this forum? are you reffering to the book YOU tell everyone to read? who the **** are YOU? im a computer engineer, i dont tell anyone on any IT forum to go get a ****in degree before they can play with a computer or even get a job in IT.

Base on the ****ty ART you create, seems like all of the high level art education you did was useless? maybe your should read your great exposure book again

 

[Compaq]

You have very valid points, and I agree to some extent. I wouldn't call education a necessity, but certainly it is beneficial.

I am careful to express that education is necessary in art. Take music again. Many of the "big" musicians don't have education, but are self-learned. I am not talking about classical music or compositions from other eras, but music that came around 60s and onward.

 

[The_Traveler]

It is obvious to that the vast majority of responders in this thread are seriously lacking in photographic and artistic education, and have made absolutely ZERO effort to learn anything about visual communication.

Clearly Derrel is much better and smarter and more educated than any of us, being the single person in this thread who actually lives up to his qualifications. This only leaves the question - why does he stay?

noblesse oblige

My guess Derrel wants and needs the adulation,
He really needs to be recognized for the superior being he is.
Of course he is angry when we fail to show him the respect he deserves.
He is disappointed when, after he has posted in a thread, others have opinions and dare to express them.

I know that I am a lowly snapshooter, certainly not fit to carry his camera bag, but in my own small way I do enjoy that snapping away.

 

[tirediron]

What is the difference between an architect and a framer? What is the difference between a surgeon, and a practical nurse? What is the difference between a "photographer" and "a Mom With a Camera or a Guy With a Camera"? The answer is mastery of the field, and education.

Becoming an architect, a surgeon, or a photographer demands education, and studying, and effort. It is obvious to that the vast majority of responders in this thread are seriously lacking in photographic and artistic education, and have made absolutely ZERO effort to learn anything about visual communication. On a forum where the number one book suggestion is one about learning how to expose properly (what a joke!), it's probably no surprise that the majority will happy-snap along in ignorant bliss, snapping "portraits" that are the equivalent of macaroni art, simply because they lack education in the visual arts. Again, enjoy your Kraft macaroni and cheese and Pepsi dinners! Enjoy your Justin Bieber music! Enjoy your Craigslist clients!

B o l l o c k s!!!!!

Yousuf Karsh: "Artistic Education" ? None.

O. Winston Link: "Artistic Education" ? None.

Adams, A: "Artistic Education" ? None.

Annie Leibovitz: "Artistic Education" Studied painting at the SFAI.

So Derrel, are these some of the GWAC/MWAC, Craig's List, Kraft-Dinner eating, Pepsi-drinking photographic hacks of which you speak?

 

[Kbarredo]

I don't always have a problem with landscape oriented portraits.I don't always have a problem with cutting off the top of the head when it's intentional.I don't always have a problem with blown out skin.I don't always have a problem with white of the eyes on both sides of the cornea.

Especially when I'm in the picture.

woah I always thought you were black.

 

[The_Traveler]

tirediron,

Derrel has worked very hard at studying therefore studying and education must be important to being a good photographer.

He is educated and therefore must be good.

Get it?

 

[The_Traveler]

Note that Derrel doesn't post his own pictures here.

Why not?

 

[Derrel]

Studying PAINING is perhaps the absolute best preparation for a career in photography! But, you probably would not understand why. Here's why: a painter must learn composition. He or she must learn how to fill the space of the canvas. he or she must lern the difference between a horizontal compoisition, and a vertical composition. Sorry tirediron, but studying "PAINTING" is the kind of thing I have suggested all along in this thread--you know, painting, one of the "visual arts"...

Adams, A--artistic education--MUSIC...

Yousuf Karsh--good early, later became a button-pusher, and shot a lot of ****ty work, which his assistants set up...

O. Winston Link--cool nightime railroad shots, done with his brother, and zillions of flash bulbs...and note the way he framed his shots!!!

You're normally a smart man, Tirediron. I love how you're arguing AGAINST education and stuydying. Only in Canada would that sound like a good idea! Snort!