Photoshoot, thoughts?

pgriz · Aug 13, 2012

@ sactown024: I will echo what pixmedic said. MLeeK is both knowledgeable and helpful, but she isn't a fool. She WILL share her expertise, and does, but being rude to a legitimate question is not the way to get that help.

Most people post to get comments and to obtain feedback. "We" may think something is absolutely wonderful, but "we" are also very unobjective. So a reality check in terms of what strangers say is a useful tool. Another very useful method is to show a shot, and say what you were going for and how you went about creating it - others may love the concept, but fault the execution. Or we may say the image really works. Or it may fall into that category of not bad enough to cause reaction, and not good enough to inspire praise and hosannas. In which case, we get very little feedback. That too, is a useful result.

manaheim · Aug 13, 2012

pixmedic said:
A serious piece of advice..MLeeK is one of the most helpful people you will EVER find. Total opposite of a troll. Ignore her at your own loss.

LIES!!! MLEEK IS THE CORE OF ALL EVIL!!! SHE IS THE FIRE OF THE CLOVEN HOOVED BETRAYOR!!! SHE MUST BE PUNISHED!!!!

-chuckle-

jamesbjenkins · Aug 15, 2012

sactown024 said:
I cant tell if your serious or troll...

And if EVERY post you see me in on TPF is trolling, then we must all be some damn fine trolls here.

Typical know-it-all rookie, coming in here and then telling people to leave their thread.

I clearly have nothing to offer you, as you already know everything.

Now pressing "ignore".

MWC2 · Aug 15, 2012

OK after reading this thread I have a question.

When I post for C&C I usually try and point out the issues I see with my image (in other words I try to give myself C&C) then I ask what I can do to improve those issues and if there is anything I am missing, should we NOT do that? In other words, I'm posting images for C&C I know have issues but I'm wanting to know how to improve and move past those problems. That is what I was taught/told to do when asking for advice, show you understand you are not perfect and prove you taking steps to improve so other people don't think they are wasting time offering you help.

MLeeK · Aug 15, 2012

MWC2 said:
OK after reading this thread I have a question.

When I post for C&C I usually try and point out the issues I see with my image (in other words I try to give myself C&C) then I ask what I can do to improve those issues and if there is anything I am missing, should we NOT do that? In other words, I'm posting images for C&C I know have issues but I'm wanting to know how to improve and move past those problems. That is what I was taught/told to do when asking for advice, show you understand you are not perfect and prove you taking steps to improve so other people don't think they are wasting time offering you help.

I don't know about anyone else here, but those are the best images to give C&C on. The poster knows they missed something or that they need help with something and by stating where it was short someone can give the targeted help needed.
That's not what our OP did in this case.

Derrel · Aug 15, 2012

THis ENTIRE thread reminds me of a CLASSIC movie clip...ONE phrase leads to a biiiiigggggg misunderstanding and a LOT of 'tude!

Goodfellas - "I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown?" - YouTube

MWC2 · Aug 15, 2012

MLeeK said:
MWC2 said:

OK after reading this thread I have a question.

When I post for C&C I usually try and point out the issues I see with my image (in other words I try to give myself C&C) then I ask what I can do to improve those issues and if there is anything I am missing, should we NOT do that? In other words, I'm posting images for C&C I know have issues but I'm wanting to know how to improve and move past those problems. That is what I was taught/told to do when asking for advice, show you understand you are not perfect and prove you taking steps to improve so other people don't think they are wasting time offering you help.

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I don't know about anyone else here, but those are the best images to give C&C on. The poster knows they missed something or that they need help with something and by stating where it was short someone can give the targeted help needed.
That's not what our OP did in this case.

thanks, for some reason I was thinking I was doing something wrong (would NOT be the first time). OP sorry to hijack your thread.

tirediron · Aug 15, 2012

OP: Just so that you're clear on a few things: TPF has a wide range of photographers from full-time working professionals to brand-new beginners. When you post an image for critique, you're going to get an equally wide-range of comments, ranging from a simple "It's nice" or "It sucks" to paragraphs detailing all of the issues with the image and how to improve them.

You may or may not agree with any or all of the comments posted, HOWEVER the quickest way to alienate your self and ensure that any future posts receive NO useful comments whatsoever is to lash out. Members such as MLeek are both knowledgable and experienced, but they do NOT sugar-coat their comments. You must understand that the comments are not directed at you personally, and no matter how rude you may think they are, 99.9% of the time, they are meant to be helpful and to assist you in improving.

Accept them that way.