Police Car photos ?

[Shelly1204]

The law is the law. If you're in a position of authority and you can't follow the law, then you are unqualified for your job and it's time to move on, most likely at great expense to the taxpayers.

A simple inquiry is not against the law. The police can strike a conversation with anyone, and I don't think anyone is questioning that. It's when the person being questioned gives an answer that the officer doesn't like, and that officer takes it upon him/herself to restrain the constitutional rights of that person purely based upon their own stupidity and/or ego that the OP, and everyone here, has issue with. I'm actually quite surprised you're not equally, if not more, repulsed by that situation. It's hard to see how your description of job duties comes even remotely close to justifying the violation of one's constitutional rights.

You forgot about lawyers!

What the?... Where did that one come from?

 

[ChasK]

Where's Barney Fife when you really need him. You gotta nip it, nip it in the bud!

 

[C-Towner]

I don't expect any of you to understand it because you are not provided with the same information and details as law enforcement.

No pun intended, but what a cop-out answer.

You are willing to challenge the notion that police should allow civilians to photograph them, as they have no rights to privacy while in public, and all their actions are done as public servants. I am sure 'classified' information allows the police to do all sorts of things that the ignorant public call them crooked for. </sarcasm>

Have you ever had to approach a vehicle on a traffic stop and worry if the driver is going to turn around with a gun?
Respond to a domestic dispute, an intrusion alarm, assault, medical assistance, anything?
Or stand a Marine Corps Base entry point worrying about someone approaching with a gun or even a bomb?

It's not just that you aren't provided the information but you've more than likely never experienced those things, assuming you're part of the general population with no law enforcement/military experience.

I'm not trying to say that power ridden cops that think their badge is a crown should be allowed to get away with bullying people but for them to ask questions or inquire as to what someone is doing is perfectly acceptable.

I definitely do not like being a dick head cop, I hate writing tickets. I prefer to give verbal warnings if anything at all. I chose this job to stop real crime not speeding, broken tail lights, or for the sake of discussion photographers.

Remind me again how any of those situations relate to photography?

 

[Plato]

I don't expect any of you to understand it because you are not provided with the same information and details as law enforcement.

No pun intended, but what a cop-out answer.

You are willing to challenge the notion that police should allow civilians to photograph them, as they have no rights to privacy while in public, and all their actions are done as public servants. I am sure 'classified' information allows the police to do all sorts of things that the ignorant public call them crooked for. </sarcasm>

Have you ever had to approach a vehicle on a traffic stop and worry if the driver is going to turn around with a gun?
Respond to a domestic dispute, an intrusion alarm, assault, medical assistance, anything?
Or stand a Marine Corps Base entry point worrying about someone approaching with a gun or even a bomb?

It's not just that you aren't provided the information but you've more than likely never experienced those things, assuming you're part of the general population with no law enforcement/military experience.

I'm not trying to say that power ridden cops that think their badge is a crown should be allowed to get away with bullying people but for them to ask questions or inquire as to what someone is doing is perfectly acceptable.

I definitely do not like being a dick head cop, I hate writing tickets. I prefer to give verbal warnings if anything at all. I chose this job to stop real crime not speeding, broken tail lights, or for the sake of discussion photographers.

Let's see. Your point is that you have a tough job and because you have a tough job, you are entitled to abrogate my rights as a citizen of the United States. Do I have that correct?

You're certainly entitled to ask me questions but don't try to tell me that I am required to answer those questions.

 

[Joves]

No pun intended, but what a cop-out answer.

You are willing to challenge the notion that police should allow civilians to photograph them, as they have no rights to privacy while in public, and all their actions are done as public servants. I am sure 'classified' information allows the police to do all sorts of things that the ignorant public call them crooked for. </sarcasm>

Have you ever had to approach a vehicle on a traffic stop and worry if the driver is going to turn around with a gun?
Respond to a domestic dispute, an intrusion alarm, assault, medical assistance, anything?
Or stand a Marine Corps Base entry point worrying about someone approaching with a gun or even a bomb?

It's not just that you aren't provided the information but you've more than likely never experienced those things, assuming you're part of the general population with no law enforcement/military experience.

I'm not trying to say that power ridden cops that think their badge is a crown should be allowed to get away with bullying people but for them to ask questions or inquire as to what someone is doing is perfectly acceptable.

I definitely do not like being a dick head cop, I hate writing tickets. I prefer to give verbal warnings if anything at all. I chose this job to stop real crime not speeding, broken tail lights, or for the sake of discussion photographers.

Let's see. Your point is that you have a tough job and because you have a tough job, you are entitled to abrogate my rights as a citizen of the United States. Do I have that correct?

You're certainly entitled to ask me questions but don't try to tell me that I am required to answer those questions.

I agree. Nothing that is listed has anything to do with photographers or the harassment of them in some places. In some areas it is like get him he has a 400mm lens! Oh noes that guy took our pic! You are a public offical and at times people will shoot your photo so get over it. It is like Plato said you can ask me questions but, it doesnt mean I will answer them and, doesnt mean I have to. This is especially true when Im go about my own priivate lawful business, which gives no offical the right to question what Im doing.

 

[Josh66]

 

[NWK04]

As police officers, it's our job to be nosey. If someone was looking into your car and you didn't know them, would you inquire about? They've done nothing wrong.

And for the person who wants us to re-evaluate our training due to photographs, you're clueless. Criminals today do their own recon. They're more advanced.

No, i'm not going to hassel someone for shooting pictures in a public place, but I will tell you this much, if I feel threaten by you, I will questions you, the law says I can talk to anyone I want while on duty. And, I will go home that night.

 

[NWK04]

OK....WAIT!!!!

It's getting to heavy in this Thread.....back to the original questions....

No....you can not and will not go to jail for photographing police vehicles.

Now, back to making photographs.

group hug!

:hug::

 

[Josh66]

It was bound to happen, just due to the nature of the question, lol.

BTW...that video I posted wasn't meant to start anything. Just thought most of the people that have posted here would be interested. It's long, but worth watching.

(It's actually a 3 part video - a little over an hour total. I tried to just link to it, so you can watch it on youtube (bigger picture), but the forum automatically embeds it. ...Actually, I think all 3 parts are on that 48 minute one I linked to.)

 

[NWK04]

I agree with it. If I'm ever accused of something.....I'm not saying a word!

Not because of being tricked or shaded detectives, but being arrested or questioned is a big deal and you do want a lawyer present.

 

[Plato]

Have you ever had to approach a vehicle on a traffic stop and worry if the driver is going to turn around with a gun?
Respond to a domestic dispute, an intrusion alarm, assault, medical assistance, anything?
Or stand a Marine Corps Base entry point worrying about someone approaching with a gun or even a bomb?

It's not just that you aren't provided the information but you've more than likely never experienced those things, assuming you're part of the general population with no law enforcement/military experience.

I'm not trying to say that power ridden cops that think their badge is a crown should be allowed to get away with bullying people but for them to ask questions or inquire as to what someone is doing is perfectly acceptable.

I definitely do not like being a dick head cop, I hate writing tickets. I prefer to give verbal warnings if anything at all. I chose this job to stop real crime not speeding, broken tail lights, or for the sake of discussion photographers.

Let's see. Your point is that you have a tough job and because you have a tough job, you are entitled to abrogate my rights as a citizen of the United States. Do I have that correct?

You're certainly entitled to ask me questions but don't try to tell me that I am required to answer those questions.

I agree. Nothing that is listed has anything to do with photographers or the harassment of them in some places. In some areas it is like get him he has a 400mm lens! Oh noes that guy took our pic! You are a public offical and at times people will shoot your photo so get over it. It is like Plato said you can ask me questions but, it doesnt mean I will answer them and, doesnt mean I have to. This is especially true when Im go about my own priivate lawful business, which gives no offical the right to question what Im doing.

Let's face reality. The only individuals that are entitled to abrogate my rights as an American citizen are the TSA screeners.

 

[Josh66]

If I'm ever accused of something.....I'm not saying a word!

I think the most important thing to take away from that video is that anything you say can ONLY be used AGAINST you. Even if you don't think it could harm you in any way. It can NEVER help you.


...Just something to think about.


And I'm not a 'cop hater', I am just very cautious around them, lol!

 

[ChasK]

Cops I think are a lot like photographers, some are good and some not so much. If you really want an education go watch court in session even traffic court or do jury duty. You will look at things in whole different way.

 

[WV350Z]

count me guilty as charged if its illegal?Police cheif gave the officer permission??

 

[Josh66]

The cops around here drive Chargers... I would love the opportunity to shoot some of them...