Pro crop d500

[astroNikon]

I don't understand why people are stuck on the $2k price. For what it is, pretty sure that price point is where it should be. I think I bought my D7000 for damn near that much when it came out 4 years ago, and this is hell of a lot more camera than that in relation.

But, what I don't understand, and this was mentioned earlier, is how they get $3k for the package with the kit lens, when the lens is no more than $650 if bought separately.

It's the box.

When I bought my d7000 I was watching Nikon's website checking prices.
When the D7100 came out the d7000 price actually increased.
that actually stalled my purchase decisions.
then they had d7000 "sales" at the original price, then more below the original price and that is when I bought new.

they have some weird accounting / marketing / price level calculations sometimes.
But prices tend to favor the Demand side, as it seems they create batches of fixed inventory supplies which are not really based on fairly accurately future sales forecasts. Thus they tend to decrease prices over time.

 

[jaomul]

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But, what I don't understand, and this was mentioned earlier, is how they get $3k for the package with the kit lens, when the lens is no more than $650 if bought separately.

I don't think you can find that lens for 650 now. That was probably December rebate pricing? By the time the d500 ships the lens will be full price of 1070 without any rebates... I have not shot with that lens, but seems a bit overpriced... The 200-500 should be the kit lens anyways... [/QUOTE]

Looks like someone pricing things to switch brands

 

[Braineack]

Despite the usual gale-force ad hominem outgassing, you somehow neglected to speak to Tuck's points in the last of his posts I linked.

BlacK Pot Kettle Calling... something like that.

you have yet to address anything anyone here has rebutted against you or posed.

 

[gsgary]

D5/D500:Higher prices+fatter margins/profits on lower unit sales volume=happy shareholders.

Odd, yet again you demonstrate your Thom Hogan-like fixation with Nikon financials, Nikon company strategy, Nikon business strategies. Ever since you showed up here in 2013, on numerous occasions I have genuinely wondered if you are Hogan himself, in sock puppet disguise. Constantly linking to his articles dealing with Nikon business decisions, Nikon revenues, Nikon sales reports, CIPA sales numbers, etc. Your random posts that introduce links to Hogan's articles dealing with Nikon management decision, share prices, corporate strategy, product matrix,etc.....it all just seems...soooo weird to me.

I just keep thinking: "Sock puppet? Or payed shill for some other company?"

I just cannot figure out why you constantly pop up on TPF with this anti-Nikon agenda, over and over. Do you even own a camera? What do you shoot? Do you actually take photos?

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

Honestly who cares about this Kirk Tuck guy thinks about the D500? I looked at his portfolio on 500px and he shoots portraits and does food/product photography. The D500 is not targeted at him at all. Maybe I should write a blog about landscape cameras and tell you what I think is best. It would be about the same since I am not a landscape guy... Personally I am still drooling over the D500 but I'm too deep into Canon land at this point. If you find a link to a pro wildlife photographer that denounces the D500 then I will see some merit based on their opinion. If you think this camera is too expensive for you or doesn't fit your needs, feel free to move along.

My 2 Nikon shooter friends (one is one of the top wildlife shooters in UK) at our camera club dissed the D500 and have ordered D5

 

[pixmedic]

D5/D500:Higher prices+fatter margins/profits on lower unit sales volume=happy shareholders.

Odd, yet again you demonstrate your Thom Hogan-like fixation with Nikon financials, Nikon company strategy, Nikon business strategies. Ever since you showed up here in 2013, on numerous occasions I have genuinely wondered if you are Hogan himself, in sock puppet disguise. Constantly linking to his articles dealing with Nikon business decisions, Nikon revenues, Nikon sales reports, CIPA sales numbers, etc. Your random posts that introduce links to Hogan's articles dealing with Nikon management decision, share prices, corporate strategy, product matrix,etc.....it all just seems...soooo weird to me.

I just keep thinking: "Sock puppet? Or payed shill for some other company?"

I just cannot figure out why you constantly pop up on TPF with this anti-Nikon agenda, over and over. Do you even own a camera? What do you shoot? Do you actually take photos?

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

Honestly who cares about this Kirk Tuck guy thinks about the D500? I looked at his portfolio on 500px and he shoots portraits and does food/product photography. The D500 is not targeted at him at all. Maybe I should write a blog about landscape cameras and tell you what I think is best. It would be about the same since I am not a landscape guy... Personally I am still drooling over the D500 but I'm too deep into Canon land at this point. If you find a link to a pro wildlife photographer that denounces the D500 then I will see some merit based on their opinion. If you think this camera is too expensive for you or doesn't fit your needs, feel free to move along.

My 2 Nikon shooter friends (one is one of the top wildlife shooters in UK) at our camera club dissed the D500 and have ordered D5

If you can afford the top line camera then why not get it?
But saying they "dissed it" without actual details on why they didn't like it or why it doesn't suit their needs is the equilivant of the people that "diss" leica because it is an overpriced bragging rights pieces.

 

[gsgary]

D5/D500:Higher prices+fatter margins/profits on lower unit sales volume=happy shareholders.

Odd, yet again you demonstrate your Thom Hogan-like fixation with Nikon financials, Nikon company strategy, Nikon business strategies. Ever since you showed up here in 2013, on numerous occasions I have genuinely wondered if you are Hogan himself, in sock puppet disguise. Constantly linking to his articles dealing with Nikon business decisions, Nikon revenues, Nikon sales reports, CIPA sales numbers, etc. Your random posts that introduce links to Hogan's articles dealing with Nikon management decision, share prices, corporate strategy, product matrix,etc.....it all just seems...soooo weird to me.

I just keep thinking: "Sock puppet? Or payed shill for some other company?"

I just cannot figure out why you constantly pop up on TPF with this anti-Nikon agenda, over and over. Do you even own a camera? What do you shoot? Do you actually take photos?

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

Honestly who cares about this Kirk Tuck guy thinks about the D500? I looked at his portfolio on 500px and he shoots portraits and does food/product photography. The D500 is not targeted at him at all. Maybe I should write a blog about landscape cameras and tell you what I think is best. It would be about the same since I am not a landscape guy... Personally I am still drooling over the D500 but I'm too deep into Canon land at this point. If you find a link to a pro wildlife photographer that denounces the D500 then I will see some merit based on their opinion. If you think this camera is too expensive for you or doesn't fit your needs, feel free to move along.

My 2 Nikon shooter friends (one is one of the top wildlife shooters in UK) at our camera club dissed the D500 and have ordered D5

If you can afford the top line camera then why not get it?
But saying they "dissed it" without actual details on why they didn't like it or why it doesn't suit their needs is the equilivant of the people that "diss" leica because it is an overpriced bragging rights pieces.

They say it will be nowhere near the D5 in low light

 

[pixmedic]

D5/D500:Higher prices+fatter margins/profits on lower unit sales volume=happy shareholders.

Odd, yet again you demonstrate your Thom Hogan-like fixation with Nikon financials, Nikon company strategy, Nikon business strategies. Ever since you showed up here in 2013, on numerous occasions I have genuinely wondered if you are Hogan himself, in sock puppet disguise. Constantly linking to his articles dealing with Nikon business decisions, Nikon revenues, Nikon sales reports, CIPA sales numbers, etc. Your random posts that introduce links to Hogan's articles dealing with Nikon management decision, share prices, corporate strategy, product matrix,etc.....it all just seems...soooo weird to me.

I just keep thinking: "Sock puppet? Or payed shill for some other company?"

I just cannot figure out why you constantly pop up on TPF with this anti-Nikon agenda, over and over. Do you even own a camera? What do you shoot? Do you actually take photos?

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

Honestly who cares about this Kirk Tuck guy thinks about the D500? I looked at his portfolio on 500px and he shoots portraits and does food/product photography. The D500 is not targeted at him at all. Maybe I should write a blog about landscape cameras and tell you what I think is best. It would be about the same since I am not a landscape guy... Personally I am still drooling over the D500 but I'm too deep into Canon land at this point. If you find a link to a pro wildlife photographer that denounces the D500 then I will see some merit based on their opinion. If you think this camera is too expensive for you or doesn't fit your needs, feel free to move along.

My 2 Nikon shooter friends (one is one of the top wildlife shooters in UK) at our camera club dissed the D500 and have ordered D5

If you can afford the top line camera then why not get it?
But saying they "dissed it" without actual details on why they didn't like it or why it doesn't suit their needs is the equilivant of the people that "diss" leica because it is an overpriced bragging rights pieces.

They say it will be nowhere near the D5 in low light

Duh. Why would it be?
Your looking at FX vs DX and Nikon's top flagship professional model vs a prosumer model. Not to mention a $4500 price difference.

Anyone making the comparison between the two like they were In the same category does NOT know their nikon camera models very well. It's apples and oranges.

 

[gsgary]

Odd, yet again you demonstrate your Thom Hogan-like fixation with Nikon financials, Nikon company strategy, Nikon business strategies. Ever since you showed up here in 2013, on numerous occasions I have genuinely wondered if you are Hogan himself, in sock puppet disguise. Constantly linking to his articles dealing with Nikon business decisions, Nikon revenues, Nikon sales reports, CIPA sales numbers, etc. Your random posts that introduce links to Hogan's articles dealing with Nikon management decision, share prices, corporate strategy, product matrix,etc.....it all just seems...soooo weird to me.

I just keep thinking: "Sock puppet? Or payed shill for some other company?"

I just cannot figure out why you constantly pop up on TPF with this anti-Nikon agenda, over and over. Do you even own a camera? What do you shoot? Do you actually take photos?

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

Honestly who cares about this Kirk Tuck guy thinks about the D500? I looked at his portfolio on 500px and he shoots portraits and does food/product photography. The D500 is not targeted at him at all. Maybe I should write a blog about landscape cameras and tell you what I think is best. It would be about the same since I am not a landscape guy... Personally I am still drooling over the D500 but I'm too deep into Canon land at this point. If you find a link to a pro wildlife photographer that denounces the D500 then I will see some merit based on their opinion. If you think this camera is too expensive for you or doesn't fit your needs, feel free to move along.

My 2 Nikon shooter friends (one is one of the top wildlife shooters in UK) at our camera club dissed the D500 and have ordered D5

If you can afford the top line camera then why not get it?
But saying they "dissed it" without actual details on why they didn't like it or why it doesn't suit their needs is the equilivant of the people that "diss" leica because it is an overpriced bragging rights pieces.

They say it will be nowhere near the D5 in low light

Duh. Why would it be?
Your looking at FX vs DX and Nikon's top flagship professional model vs a prosumer model. Not to mention a $4500 price difference.

Anyone making the comparison between the two like they were In the same category does NOT know their nikon camera models very well. It's apples and oranges.

They are typical Nikon shooters, I wouldn't buy either

 

[jaomul]

My 2 Nikon shooter friends (one is one of the top wildlife shooters in UK) at our camera club dissed the D500 and have ordered D5

That don't mean s***

 

[pixmedic]

Yet another guy who disturbingly looks and thinks a little deeper than you're accustomed to:

The Visual Science Lab.: Which Nikon am I interested in right now? Here's a clue, I'm not putting in any pre-orders....

Honestly who cares about this Kirk Tuck guy thinks about the D500? I looked at his portfolio on 500px and he shoots portraits and does food/product photography. The D500 is not targeted at him at all. Maybe I should write a blog about landscape cameras and tell you what I think is best. It would be about the same since I am not a landscape guy... Personally I am still drooling over the D500 but I'm too deep into Canon land at this point. If you find a link to a pro wildlife photographer that denounces the D500 then I will see some merit based on their opinion. If you think this camera is too expensive for you or doesn't fit your needs, feel free to move along.

My 2 Nikon shooter friends (one is one of the top wildlife shooters in UK) at our camera club dissed the D500 and have ordered D5

If you can afford the top line camera then why not get it?
But saying they "dissed it" without actual details on why they didn't like it or why it doesn't suit their needs is the equilivant of the people that "diss" leica because it is an overpriced bragging rights pieces.

They say it will be nowhere near the D5 in low light

Duh. Why would it be?
Your looking at FX vs DX and Nikon's top flagship professional model vs a prosumer model. Not to mention a $4500 price difference.

Anyone making the comparison between the two like they were In the same category does NOT know their nikon camera models very well. It's apples and oranges.

They are typical Nikon shooters, I wouldn't buy either

I'm afraid I do not understand what you are getting at. What is a "typical nikon shooter"?
I wonder if it is any different than what I consider a "typical leica shooter".

 

[gsgary]

Honestly who cares about this Kirk Tuck guy thinks about the D500? I looked at his portfolio on 500px and he shoots portraits and does food/product photography. The D500 is not targeted at him at all. Maybe I should write a blog about landscape cameras and tell you what I think is best. It would be about the same since I am not a landscape guy... Personally I am still drooling over the D500 but I'm too deep into Canon land at this point. If you find a link to a pro wildlife photographer that denounces the D500 then I will see some merit based on their opinion. If you think this camera is too expensive for you or doesn't fit your needs, feel free to move along.

My 2 Nikon shooter friends (one is one of the top wildlife shooters in UK) at our camera club dissed the D500 and have ordered D5

If you can afford the top line camera then why not get it?
But saying they "dissed it" without actual details on why they didn't like it or why it doesn't suit their needs is the equilivant of the people that "diss" leica because it is an overpriced bragging rights pieces.

They say it will be nowhere near the D5 in low light

Duh. Why would it be?
Your looking at FX vs DX and Nikon's top flagship professional model vs a prosumer model. Not to mention a $4500 price difference.

Anyone making the comparison between the two like they were In the same category does NOT know their nikon camera models very well. It's apples and oranges.

They are typical Nikon shooters, I wouldn't buy either

I'm afraid I do not understand what you are getting at. What is a "typical nikon shooter"?
I wonder if it is any different than what I consider a "typical leica shooter".

Take a look at the Nikon threads all they are concerned about is what camera will come out next, for me less is more

 

[gsgary]

Honestly who cares about this Kirk Tuck guy thinks about the D500? I looked at his portfolio on 500px and he shoots portraits and does food/product photography. The D500 is not targeted at him at all. Maybe I should write a blog about landscape cameras and tell you what I think is best. It would be about the same since I am not a landscape guy... Personally I am still drooling over the D500 but I'm too deep into Canon land at this point. If you find a link to a pro wildlife photographer that denounces the D500 then I will see some merit based on their opinion. If you think this camera is too expensive for you or doesn't fit your needs, feel free to move along.

My 2 Nikon shooter friends (one is one of the top wildlife shooters in UK) at our camera club dissed the D500 and have ordered D5

If you can afford the top line camera then why not get it?
But saying they "dissed it" without actual details on why they didn't like it or why it doesn't suit their needs is the equilivant of the people that "diss" leica because it is an overpriced bragging rights pieces.

They say it will be nowhere near the D5 in low light

Duh. Why would it be?
Your looking at FX vs DX and Nikon's top flagship professional model vs a prosumer model. Not to mention a $4500 price difference.

Anyone making the comparison between the two like they were In the same category does NOT know their nikon camera models very well. It's apples and oranges.

They are typical Nikon shooters, I wouldn't buy either

I'm afraid I do not understand what you are getting at. What is a "typical nikon shooter"?
I wonder if it is any different than what I consider a "typical leica shooter".

Leica users don't talk about swapping cameras all the time and having to have features that are not neaded

 

[coastalconn]

Don't need much to produce black and white images on a ridicously overpriced ugly camera. As far as your "friends" that shoot wildlife, who cares, they have not touched the D500. I'm probably a top rated bird photographer in the US and I would pickt the D500 over the D5 because it is better suited to what and how I shoot...

 

[pixmedic]

My 2 Nikon shooter friends (one is one of the top wildlife shooters in UK) at our camera club dissed the D500 and have ordered D5

If you can afford the top line camera then why not get it?
But saying they "dissed it" without actual details on why they didn't like it or why it doesn't suit their needs is the equilivant of the people that "diss" leica because it is an overpriced bragging rights pieces.

They say it will be nowhere near the D5 in low light

Duh. Why would it be?
Your looking at FX vs DX and Nikon's top flagship professional model vs a prosumer model. Not to mention a $4500 price difference.

Anyone making the comparison between the two like they were In the same category does NOT know their nikon camera models very well. It's apples and oranges.

They are typical Nikon shooters, I wouldn't buy either

I'm afraid I do not understand what you are getting at. What is a "typical nikon shooter"?
I wonder if it is any different than what I consider a "typical leica shooter".

Leica users don't talk about swapping cameras all the time and having to have features that are not neaded

Of course not. Leica users are far too busy ranting on about how expensive their cameras are to worry about actual camera features.

 

[coastalconn]

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Looks like someone pricing things to switch brands

Not necessarily, but I get so many questions on my FB page about gear that I am watching the D500 like a hawk (so to speak) For someone that wants to shoot like I do, I am already recommending they hold off a little and wait for reviews on the D500.