Skieur's Why Do Americans Have Guns Thread

[Destin]

Criminals will get guns no matter what. Gun laws or no gun laws. Why put the citizens who are NOT criminals, who will use for self defense, at a disadvantage?
Banning guns is not the answer because legal or not, they will fall into the wrong hands.

exactly. I don't see how anyone can want to ban guns. Criminals will always get them, no matter what. Taking them away from the general public would just leave us defenseless.

 

[Josh66]

To the whole 'unnecessary' thing, I would bet that if you took an inventory of your house - most of the stuff in it is 'unnecessary'. You still have it though.


And crime rates - look at the cities/States with the most restrictive gun laws - they usually have disproportionately higher crime rates than the rest of the country...

In my town, pretty much everyone I know has a few guns. The only real 'crime' I read about in the local paper are kids getting busted for pot.

 

[MWG]

To the whole 'unnecessary' thing, I would bet that if you took an inventory of your house - most of the stuff in it is 'unnecessary'. You still have it though.


And crime rates - look at the cities/States with the most restrictive gun laws - they usually have disproportionately higher crime rates than the rest of the country...

In my town, pretty much everyone I know has a few guns. The only real 'crime' I read about in the local paper are kids getting busted for pot.

Yea agreed with the second part. If your a smart criminal, your not just gonna walk into a gun store and register a piece. Your gonna get off the street, serials scratched half of the time. Meaning a lot of arrests for weapon violations.

 

[K8-90]

That's why it can't be a half-a$$ed thing done by some states and not others. It has to be done universally to work, or criminals will just pop over to the closest place and grab one.

Would you not feel safer if all countries in the world did not have WOMD? Or do you think that it is better if your country has their own to defend themselves.

Sorry, I dont think I'm making myself very clear...

 

[K8-90]

What I don't understand is blaming inanimate objects for crimes...

No one was...

I just don't trust the majority of the population with firearms. Ad rather than picking one up myself, I'd rather firearms not be accessible in general.

 

[Stephen.C]

Well you cant control the fact that the general population can buy firearms, so why put yourself at a disadvantage if ( hopefuly it wont )you were in a situation where you would need one.

 

[Trever1t]

What I don't see mentioned yet is the fact that this country was founded by simple people who rose up against tyranny, the largest most powerful military in the world.

As such our founding Fathers wanted to guarantee that no American ever feel that a government could hold such power over the people, that the people could rise up and reform the government, if need be.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

 

[FranDaMan]

If you are not American, and haven't been raised with the whole "right to bear arms" things, I guess you will never fully understand.

We don't have to right to bear arms in the Netherlands, and I have never felt the need for it. We don't have drive by shootings and burglars don't shoot people here (much ).

Different countries, different cultures......

 

[MWG]

The way I look at it, cats already out of the bag. I will always possess my firearm because, I know there will always be people looking for shortcuts strait through my life.

 

[Photo95]

I own one mainly because I like the hobby of target shooting.
Then I became more serious about it. I go to the range twice a month, 4hrs each session. I do safety drills, learn the proper ways to clear a house and a lot of target practice.

Why not? If you like it, do it. Sure we can use this as home defense, and hope never to have to use it in my life, but if someone un-invited comes in and points a dangerous object at any of my family members... Trust me, I will be ready.

 

[Photo95]

To the whole 'unnecessary' thing, I would bet that if you took an inventory of your house - most of the stuff in it is 'unnecessary'. You still have it though.


And crime rates - look at the cities/States with the most restrictive gun laws - they usually have disproportionately higher crime rates than the rest of the country...

In my town, pretty much everyone I know has a few guns. The only real 'crime' I read about in the local paper are kids getting busted for pot.

Amen to that.... the more the US tries to restrict firearms from the public, the more gang members take advantage of that knowing that most will not be armed.

Just like you said. If everyone was armed, people will think twice before pointing a piece at someone else....

 

[Photo95]

to tell you the truth, i see less in common between the US and Canada than similar... history, culturally, and politically.

Gun ownership is a scapegoat for the high crime rate.... US would have a high crime rate regardless of states level of gun control. Yes we have our problems.. but we also have a greats

States with more strict gun laws have highest crimes.
States with no strict gun laws have little to almost no crimes.

if you need proof, ill gladly forward you some links.

 

[usayit]

to tell you the truth, i see less in common between the US and Canada than similar... history, culturally, and politically.

Gun ownership is a scapegoat for the high crime rate.... US would have a high crime rate regardless of states level of gun control. Yes we have our problems.. but we also have a greats

States with more strict gun laws have highest crimes.
States with no strict gun laws have little to almost no crimes.

if you need proof, ill gladly forward you some links.

Um... read again.... I've been on your side.. don't need proof.

Although I wouldn't say no strict gun laws have little to no crime. ... My point is that there is no established correlation and gun control advocates are simply using gun ownership as a simple scapegoat for a more complex problem. If anything, the focus on controlling guns from law biding citizens has distracted from the real question: Why is <insert area here> crime rate high?

If I were still living in my home state of Tx, I'd would have a concealed weapon license. I had planned on it after graduation from college (no guns on government and academic property) but alas... life took me down a different path.

 

[RauschPhotography]

I started this so he could get his answers without hosing up my thread, nothing more - nothing less.

All I have to say is that if some prick comes into my house with ill intentions to hurt any of my 3 kids or my wife they'll have to get through me first, and I'll be more prepared than they are. The thought of some psycho having his way in my home while I'm defenseless sends a chill down my spine like nothing else.

I may never need it, and my whole point is that I hope I never, EVER do. I hope it's the biggest waste of money I've ever spent... but, should that awful moment ever cross my path I don't want to say to myself 'if only I had...'

I agree completely! Those who feel a bit shaky about gun owners tend to remember the irresponsible idiots who should have never been holding a gun in the first place. Self defense is key.. You may never need to use it, but what happens if you would? I'd rather not live with that regret.