sony a77

[argieramos]

^^ you have a very unhealthy relationship with Sony Corp.

That's a very harsh accusation coming from someone who couldnt prove anything

 

[argieramos]

So even if continuous AF were important, what's the point if the finder can't keep up?

Again, what firmware was the a77 running when they did the review? A77 had bugs on lower firmware. Nobody is having a problem panning on a77. Try harder boy

 

[unpopular]

I'll admit I do not know what version that was taken on. Can you provide me a raw file to look at? This is all i could find.

The first link is saying that the raw files from the a77 are destructively manipulated before even being processed.

 

[unpopular]

^^ you have a very unhealthy relationship with Sony Corp.

That's a very harsh accusation coming from someone who couldnt prove anything

What do I need to prove? All I have firmly said to this point is that the a77 presents less light at the imaging sensor which by definition will decrease signal relative to noise. I've never made any claim about this body's IQ as compared to any other because frankly I don't care. The technology itself is inherently flawed.

 

[unpopular]

So even if continuous AF were important, what's the point if the finder can't keep up?

Again, what firmware was the a77 running when they did the review? A77 had bugs on lower firmware. Nobody is having a problem panning on a77. Try harder boy

Can you cite the change log in which the delay and low ISO noise problems were fixed? It shouldn't be too hard to find.

Since proof is so important to you and all.

 

[Derrel]

Every single review I have seen of the A77 lists the viewfinder's inability to keep up with moving subjects as a "problem". Also, there can often be a delay between Live View and the EVF switching. The review I quoted above was posted on December 13, of 2011. I looked at the review again this AM for a while, but could not find the firmware version listed. It's pretty obvious that there are multiple reviews where dispassionate reviewers (i.e. not Sony Fanboys) list the finder system's inability to keep up with panning as one of the main knocks against the SLT technology. I suppose it is possible that every single reviewer whose reviews I have read had a camera with "early firmware", and that within the last 20 days, new magical firmware has been made,delivered, and implemented. I will concede that point.

 

[unpopular]

There will always be some delay between the EVF and the lens. If Sony can speed this up to ideally 1/60s, or even 1/30 sec, it won't be a problem since our eyes can't perceive that rate anyway. Until then though, I just cannot call the a77 a remotely "professional" option, unless all your subjects are stationary.

 

[Nikon_Josh]

HAHAHAHA! :lmao: Ah Derrel, you really are the best!!! Skieur and ArgieRamos will appreciate this.

Stop sucking his balls dude.....

Coming from a man who clearly represent's Sony corp...

And also you say Derrel's comments are pathetic?? He knows his stuff! He is an accomplished photographer. WHAT and WHO are you?? Post some images that you have taken with your A77 and prove that you can take a half decent photograph. I highly doubt it though... (And hey, at the same time you can show off just how great the A77 truly is!)

 

[unpopular]

No worries, Josh. Eventually the sunk cost will be replaced with diminished return and this madness will finally be over with.

 

[argieramos]

Every single review I have seen of the A77 lists the viewfinder's inability to keep up with moving subjects as a "problem". Also, there can often be a delay between Live View and the EVF switching. The review I quoted above was posted on December 13, of 2011. I looked at the review again this AM for a while, but could not find the firmware version listed. It's pretty obvious that there are multiple reviews where dispassionate reviewers (i.e. not Sony Fanboys) list the finder system's inability to keep up with panning as one of the main knocks against the SLT technology. I suppose it is possible that every single reviewer whose reviews I have read had a camera with "early firmware", and that within the last 20 days, new magical firmware has been made,delivered, and implemented. I will concede that point.

You are right about the switching delay, as mentioned on DigiRev review on youtube. But another review has been made by them and confirmed that that issue has been fixed on the new firmware. About the inability to track a fast moving subject, show me other reviews stating that problem.

I am still waiting for you answer to my question. What camera is the real camera to you? Give me specific model of the camera.

 

[argieramos]

There will always be some delay between the EVF and the lens. If Sony can speed this up to ideally 1/60s, or even 1/30 sec, it won't be a problem since our eyes can't perceive that rate anyway. Until then though, I just cannot call the a77 a remotely "professional" option, unless all your subjects are stationary.

How long is the delay? Make sure you are talking about the a77.

You havent answer my question. Do you do post process?

 

[argieramos]

Coming from a man who clearly represent's Sony corp...

And also you say Derrel's comments are pathetic?? He knows his stuff! He is an accomplished photographer. WHAT and WHO are you?? Post some images that you have taken with your A77 and prove that you can take a half decent photograph. I highly doubt it though... (And hey, at the same time you can show off just how great the A77 truly is!)

I wish I am a representative of the Sony Corp. That would be a nice job.
How do you define an accomplished photographer? Your daddy Derrel is nowhere near the behavior of the real accomplished photographer. He may take good pictures, make money out of it, but the attitude is nothing like the REAL accomplished photographer. What about you? What do you know about photography?

 

[unpopular]

You havent answer my question. Do you do post process?

Unless you are accusing me of pushing exposure in post, I don't see what difference it should make.

But for the record, I did answer your question. I ETTR, so yes, I do; but any edits I do make are subtractive.

 

[kassad]

There will always be some delay between the EVF and the lens. If Sony can speed this up to ideally 1/60s, or even 1/30 sec, it won't be a problem since our eyes can't perceive that rate anyway. Until then though, I just cannot call the a77 a remotely "professional" option, unless all your subjects are stationary.

Wouldn't you have the same issue with the nex-7?

 

[unpopular]

Wouldn't you have the same issue with the nex-7?

Yes. I do not know the specifications on the 7, maybe it's faster - I kind of doubt it.

My subjects don't move, and I have never been so bold to conclude that the 7 is a professional-ready platform. For me, the delay is suitable provided that image quality isn't affected.

My problem with the SLT's delay is that any advantage that you gain from continuous exposure, you loose in delay. Without a short film to flange distance, there is no advantage to an SLT body.