The Coffee House

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  1. smoke665

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    I've just about given up on planting fruit trees here. Of the 6 I planted 10 years ago, only 3 remain, and only one of those is actually doing well. Getting the hole right seems to be the biggest issue. If you don't get it big enough that you can add enough good soil, the clay acts like a bowl and holds water. Not big enough and the roots don't have room to expand, because the clay is super hard in the summer when it drys.


     
  2. SquarePeg

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    Keeping chickens is popular here in our city. Lots of them go missing, presumably to the coyotes that are getting more prevalent every year. I wouldn’t want to have anything on our property that would attract predators. Also, chickens smell and are so gross. Ever been to a poultry farm? Yuck. I’m with Marylou in this one.
     
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    Generally, out here, you gotta dig a hole at least twice the size of the container. Dunno about your soil being too compact for roots to grow through, as you seem to have pine trees aplenty. Most likely you nailed it with drainage. Some deep root watering via a deep root watering system would keep the clay moist in summer.
     
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    I grew up in an agricultural community, plenty of chicken farms around. Not a flock of chickens, just one or two ... train 'em to use the doggie door and it should be alright. :cool-98:
     
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    Know of a woman who keeps a rooster in her house. I grew up on a farm, but I hate chickens, sorry.

    On the clay. The pine tree has a central tap root that's like a giant spike. Think it could penetrate rock, as apposed to other trees which have smaller roots that spread out. The red clay here is very solid dry, close to 500 kPa load bearing, but add moisture and it expands to become quick sand. When we built the house we had to float the foundations on a bed of compacted rock.
     
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    Not true at all. Like pigs and most other animals (and more than a few people I know), animals are a product of the conditions in which they're kept. If you give a pig a nice clean area to live with a dry, covered sleeping area, and sufficient food, other than some minor instinctual rooting, they will be just as clean and pleasant smelling as a dog. Likewise, chickens kept in small numbers in clean conditions will be no more odoriferous than any other bird. Factory-farmed birds smell because they get essentially zero care and generally live in utterly deplorable conditions.
     
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    Yes, I was referring to a large poultry farm which I guess is not what Gary has in mind for his patio. Still, would not be something I would want running around while I was trying to enjoy some leisure time on the back deck.
     
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    Two words: "Shake" and "''n Bake"!
     
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    snowbear Oh Hai I iz Bear! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    or "stir fried"
     
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    snowbear Oh Hai I iz Bear! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I had to do something about all this chicken talk . . . chicken & chickpea wrap. Tonight is MLW's lasagna. :boogie:
     
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    Tonight we will have Salmon Patties and Mac and Cheese. A real cullinary delight!
     
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    Who all is going to DC?
     

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