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[Derrel]

Gimp updated to having 16 bit editing and even upped it to 32 and 64 bit floating point editing capabilities.
These are the guys that built the GEGL processing engine.:Rhythm & Hues Studios :: Home
GIMP 2.9.2 Released - GIMP
10 Reasons Open Source Is Good for Business
pay special attention to 2 and 3 in the link above
Benefits of Using Open Source Software
I can keep listing links to articles that explaing why FOSS is a better choice, but it's ultimately down to a choice, and you have to live with yours and I with mine.
But anyone saying that open source can't do 16 bit editing is just being misinformed or isn't doing the research themselves.
I am not trying to convince you to drop the money grubbing proprietary system if you love supporting those that only help you when your wallet is fat, nor will you convince me to join you in their support when FOSS works perfectly well and does everything that proprietary does.
Have a great day and God Bless.

What? No "Disagree Button" use in response to every single comment made by every poster? Are you suddenly feeling under the weather?

I stopped by your link to the Gimp 2.9.2 release page. I noticed they mention that:

"File Format Support

Thanks to Mukund Sivamaran, Rasmus Hahn, and Øyvind Kolås, GIMPnow features basic support for OpenEXR files, both loading and exporting. It’s currently missing advanced features such as layered or multiresolution EXR files, or unpremultiplication when exporting etc., but you should be able to load, process, and export a “regular” floating pointEXR file just fine.

Additionally, GIMP 2.9.2 features initial support for WebP images, also both loading and exporting. Missing features so far are ICC profiles, metadata, and animation."
*******

Just For Kicks...no ICC profiles, no metadata support, from the mighty GIMP! By their own admission, they say their almost-version-3 Baby cannot handle ICC profiles OR metadata?

WOW!!! Welcome to the early 1990's! Who needs ICC profiles, and who needs metadata! #amiright

Yeah, boy howdy...impressive.

 

[Watchful]

Gimp updated to having 16 bit editing and even upped it to 32 and 64 bit floating point editing capabilities.
These are the guys that built the GEGL processing engine.:Rhythm & Hues Studios :: Home
GIMP 2.9.2 Released - GIMP
10 Reasons Open Source Is Good for Business
pay special attention to 2 and 3 in the link above
Benefits of Using Open Source Software
I can keep listing links to articles that explaing why FOSS is a better choice, but it's ultimately down to a choice, and you have to live with yours and I with mine.
But anyone saying that open source can't do 16 bit editing is just being misinformed or isn't doing the research themselves.
I am not trying to convince you to drop the money grubbing proprietary system if you love supporting those that only help you when your wallet is fat, nor will you convince me to join you in their support when FOSS works perfectly well and does everything that proprietary does.
Have a great day and God Bless.

What? No "Disagree Button" use in response to every single comment made by every poster? Are you suddenly feeling under the weather?

I stopped by your link to the Gimp 2.9.2 release page. I noticed they mention that:

"File Format Support

Thanks to Mukund Sivamaran, Rasmus Hahn, and Øyvind Kolås, GIMPnow features basic support for OpenEXR files, both loading and exporting. It’s currently missing advanced features such as layered or multiresolution EXR files, or unpremultiplication when exporting etc., but you should be able to load, process, and export a “regular” floating pointEXR file just fine.

Additionally, GIMP 2.9.2 features initial support for WebP images, also both loading and exporting. Missing features so far are ICC profiles, metadata, and animation."
*******

Just For Kicks...no ICC profiles, no metadata support, from the mighty GIMP! By their own admission, they say their almost-version-3 Baby cannot handle ICC profiles OR metadata?

WOW!!! Welcome to the early 1990's! Who needs ICC profiles, and who needs metadata! #amiright

Yeah, boy howdy...impressive.

Do you not understand that being open source you can add the functionalities you want to the program? Try that with PS. lol

ICC profiles in gimp:
How to Add ICC Profiles In GIMP - Digital Photography School
EXIF, metadata, XMP, and IPC support for gimp:
GIMP gets advanced Exif, XMP, IPTC metadata support | Libre Graphics World

It's true that to use open source well you need to understand how a computer works and knowing how to write code is helpful.

 

[pixmedic]

Gimp updated to having 16 bit editing and even upped it to 32 and 64 bit floating point editing capabilities.
These are the guys that built the GEGL processing engine.:Rhythm & Hues Studios :: Home
GIMP 2.9.2 Released - GIMP
10 Reasons Open Source Is Good for Business
pay special attention to 2 and 3 in the link above
Benefits of Using Open Source Software
I can keep listing links to articles that explaing why FOSS is a better choice, but it's ultimately down to a choice, and you have to live with yours and I with mine.
But anyone saying that open source can't do 16 bit editing is just being misinformed or isn't doing the research themselves.
I am not trying to convince you to drop the money grubbing proprietary system if you love supporting those that only help you when your wallet is fat, nor will you convince me to join you in their support when FOSS works perfectly well and does everything that proprietary does.
Have a great day and God Bless.

What? No "Disagree Button" use in response to every single comment made by every poster? Are you suddenly feeling under the weather?

I stopped by your link to the Gimp 2.9.2 release page. I noticed they mention that:

"File Format Support

Thanks to Mukund Sivamaran, Rasmus Hahn, and Øyvind Kolås, GIMPnow features basic support for OpenEXR files, both loading and exporting. It’s currently missing advanced features such as layered or multiresolution EXR files, or unpremultiplication when exporting etc., but you should be able to load, process, and export a “regular” floating pointEXR file just fine.

Additionally, GIMP 2.9.2 features initial support for WebP images, also both loading and exporting. Missing features so far are ICC profiles, metadata, and animation."
*******

Just For Kicks...no ICC profiles, no metadata support, from the mighty GIMP! By their own admission, they say their almost-version-3 Baby cannot handle ICC profiles OR metadata?

WOW!!! Welcome to the early 1990's! Who needs ICC profiles, and who needs metadata! #amiright

Yeah, boy howdy...impressive.

Do you not understand that being open source you can add the functionalities you want to the program? Try that with PS. lol

maybe you can, but what do us non-programmers do?
the most complicated computer thing I can do is a double click. anything my complex than that and im lost.
I mean, i can drag and drop too, which might be considered by some to be a more complex maneuver than the double click, but still...thats about it for me.

 

[Watchful]

Gimp updated to having 16 bit editing and even upped it to 32 and 64 bit floating point editing capabilities.
These are the guys that built the GEGL processing engine.:Rhythm & Hues Studios :: Home
GIMP 2.9.2 Released - GIMP
10 Reasons Open Source Is Good for Business
pay special attention to 2 and 3 in the link above
Benefits of Using Open Source Software
I can keep listing links to articles that explaing why FOSS is a better choice, but it's ultimately down to a choice, and you have to live with yours and I with mine.
But anyone saying that open source can't do 16 bit editing is just being misinformed or isn't doing the research themselves.
I am not trying to convince you to drop the money grubbing proprietary system if you love supporting those that only help you when your wallet is fat, nor will you convince me to join you in their support when FOSS works perfectly well and does everything that proprietary does.
Have a great day and God Bless.

What? No "Disagree Button" use in response to every single comment made by every poster? Are you suddenly feeling under the weather?

I stopped by your link to the Gimp 2.9.2 release page. I noticed they mention that:

"File Format Support

Thanks to Mukund Sivamaran, Rasmus Hahn, and Øyvind Kolås, GIMPnow features basic support for OpenEXR files, both loading and exporting. It’s currently missing advanced features such as layered or multiresolution EXR files, or unpremultiplication when exporting etc., but you should be able to load, process, and export a “regular” floating pointEXR file just fine.

Additionally, GIMP 2.9.2 features initial support for WebP images, also both loading and exporting. Missing features so far are ICC profiles, metadata, and animation."
*******

Just For Kicks...no ICC profiles, no metadata support, from the mighty GIMP! By their own admission, they say their almost-version-3 Baby cannot handle ICC profiles OR metadata?

WOW!!! Welcome to the early 1990's! Who needs ICC profiles, and who needs metadata! #amiright

Yeah, boy howdy...impressive.

Do you not understand that being open source you can add the functionalities you want to the program? Try that with PS. lol

maybe you can, but what do us non-programmers do?
the most complicated computer thing I can do is a double click. anything my complex than that and im lost.
I mean, i can drag and drop too, which might be considered by some to be a more complex maneuver than the double click, but still...thats about it for me.

You can learn, can't you? Most people can.
When it comes to anything in life you either learn to do it yourself or pay through the nose for someone else to do it for you.

 

[pixmedic]

Gimp updated to having 16 bit editing and even upped it to 32 and 64 bit floating point editing capabilities.
These are the guys that built the GEGL processing engine.:Rhythm & Hues Studios :: Home
GIMP 2.9.2 Released - GIMP
10 Reasons Open Source Is Good for Business
pay special attention to 2 and 3 in the link above
Benefits of Using Open Source Software
I can keep listing links to articles that explaing why FOSS is a better choice, but it's ultimately down to a choice, and you have to live with yours and I with mine.
But anyone saying that open source can't do 16 bit editing is just being misinformed or isn't doing the research themselves.
I am not trying to convince you to drop the money grubbing proprietary system if you love supporting those that only help you when your wallet is fat, nor will you convince me to join you in their support when FOSS works perfectly well and does everything that proprietary does.
Have a great day and God Bless.

What? No "Disagree Button" use in response to every single comment made by every poster? Are you suddenly feeling under the weather?

I stopped by your link to the Gimp 2.9.2 release page. I noticed they mention that:

"File Format Support

Thanks to Mukund Sivamaran, Rasmus Hahn, and Øyvind Kolås, GIMPnow features basic support for OpenEXR files, both loading and exporting. It’s currently missing advanced features such as layered or multiresolution EXR files, or unpremultiplication when exporting etc., but you should be able to load, process, and export a “regular” floating pointEXR file just fine.

Additionally, GIMP 2.9.2 features initial support for WebP images, also both loading and exporting. Missing features so far are ICC profiles, metadata, and animation."
*******

Just For Kicks...no ICC profiles, no metadata support, from the mighty GIMP! By their own admission, they say their almost-version-3 Baby cannot handle ICC profiles OR metadata?

WOW!!! Welcome to the early 1990's! Who needs ICC profiles, and who needs metadata! #amiright

Yeah, boy howdy...impressive.

Do you not understand that being open source you can add the functionalities you want to the program? Try that with PS. lol

maybe you can, but what do us non-programmers do?
the most complicated computer thing I can do is a double click. anything my complex than that and im lost.
I mean, i can drag and drop too, which might be considered by some to be a more complex maneuver than the double click, but still...thats about it for me.

You can learn, can't you? Most people can.

so, just to make sure i am understanding correctly...
your suggesting that I learn an entirely new skillset in order to use an open source program that doesn't even do as much as my paid for program?

 

[Watchful]

Who lied to you and told you it doesn't do as much? It does as much and in fact it is capable of doing a lot more.
I am suggesting you learn to use your cerebral cortex, if that's a skillset you have yet to master, maybe it's too late already.
The day I decide I am no longer able to learn is the day I crawl into the pine box and pull the lid closed.
There ya go Derel, I gave you your well earned 'disagree' you were bucking for. grats.
Save up a million of those and add 25 cents and you can use a pay phone.

 

[pixmedic]

Who lied to you and told you it doesn't do as much? It does as much and in fact it is capable of doing a lot more.
I am suggesting you learn to use your cerebral cortex, if that's a skillset you have yet to master, maybe it's too late already.
The day I decide I am no longer able to learn is the day I crawl into the pine box and pull the lid closed.

you just said that you have to program the extra features to make GIMP do those things...
so out of the box, GIMP does not do everything PS and LR do does it?
why should I have to learn how to program in order to make GIMP do what I can already do with what I have?

somehow you have turned not wanting to learn how to write code equal not being able to use my brain?
ive never once, not once, given anyone grief over their choice of editing software for whatever their reason is for using it.
im surprised that someone advocating open source software would be even more elitist than the usual adobe snobs.
you surprise me sir.
perhaps one day you will need a doctor to make you better and they will tell you to just use your brain and figure it out yourself.

 

[Ysarex]

Gimp updated to having 16 bit editing and even upped it to 32 and 64 bit floating point editing capabilities.

I'm curious to know why you continue to conflate 16 bit file editing with floating point math support. They are unrelated topics. Your repeated mention of 32 and 64 bit floating point math seems to suggest some confusion.

The issue here is the ability to edit 16 bit files which is an essential function of professional editing software.

These are the guys that built the GEGL processing engine.:Rhythm & Hues Studios :: Home
GIMP 2.9.2 Released - GIMP

GIMP 2.9.2 is the unstable beta or as they say "development" release that I mentioned earlier. They have released numerous 2.9.x versions now for years. I have a version on my system I've examined now for years. It remains unstable and is not an official release.

It is available with this disclaimer: "This is unstable software, please use it at your own risk."

The current stable version of GIMP is 2.8.16 which DOES NOT SUPPORT 16 bit file editing. As such (noted earlier) GIMP "does not support industry best practice."

Here's a screen shot of what you'll find at the official GIMP download page right now:

Joe

 

[Ysarex]

So where does one go to actually download it?

That's a good question. It's tricky because 2.9.2 is not an official stable release and so it's not available in a complied version from the official GIMP website in other than a Linux version. So just download the Linux version and you're good to go. Unless there's an odd chance that you may have some weird thing like a Windows or MAC system. Well then you could download the source code and compile it yourself.

Or in the freaky and unusual case that you might have a Windows or MAC computer and not have a complier to create an executable yourself you'll have to rely on a 3rd party other than the official GIMP website. This link for Win systems is supplied on the GIMP site: Gimp - Nightly Builds - Dark Refraction (Thank you Dark Refraction!) As for you MAC folks, well there can't be enough of you to actually matter.

Joe

 

[Ysarex]

Who lied to you and told you it doesn't do as much? It does as much and in fact it is capable of doing a lot more.

This kind of claim is nonsense. No two software programs have identical toolsets. Of course there are things that other programs can do that GIMP can't and likewise there are features in GIMP that are unique and not duplicated by other software.

The question should be: When editing a photograph with software X do you regularly encounter problems and find yourself saying, "Damn! I could do this with GIMP!" And likewise when editing a photograph with GIMP do you regularly encounter problems and find yourself saying, "Damn! I could do this with X!"

I rarely find myself in the first scenario where I'm using X and wind up missing a GIMP feature. The reverse however is not true. GIMP is regularly frustrating because it lacks tools that I need and am accustomed to having available from other software. And of course the 16 bit file issue. This is my profession. I'm not using software that tells me this: "This is unstable software, please use it at your own risk.", before I install it.

Do you really need a list?

Let's start with the GIMP tool to remove Barrel or pinchusion lens distortion. Where is that?
Next the tool to edit lens chromatic aberration. Where's that one?
How about using the Hue/Saturation tool and targeting a very specific color?
How about convert the photo to the Lab color model and then make Levels adjustments to the L channel, visually?
How about convert the photo to the Lab color model and edit saturation in the b channel, visually?

And don't tell me I can write my own or go looking for a plugin. This isn't about other software it's about GIMP.

Joe

 

[Watchful]

The beauty of GIMP is that, if you are able to use it correctly, like any open source you CAN make it do ANYTHING you want it to do, unlike locked software, you will NEVER find yourself in a situation where you need something that you can't do with it if you are smart and can create plugins and scripts.
That's what GIMP can do that PS cannot. If you can't do it with PS you can't fix it yourself, you are at the mercy of 12 guys in a closed room deciding what they give you and when and what they want to charge you for it. With Gimp, you can do it yourself and also have over 50,000 other developers working along side you that can help you if you get stuck or chances are, that if you need something, you aren't the first, and there's a good chance it was already solved for you by others like you.
If you don't get that now, you never will.
You are obviously better suited to pay for software and buy as many programs as it takes to do all the things you want to do.
Version 2.9.2 is now live, it's not unstable, especially compared to PS which has a lot of bugs, so save often. You will have to know how to install software yourself as there isn't a setup exe for it. But that's so simple it's funny.

I guess you are right, there is nothing that YOU can do with gimp, but don't try to tell me that I can't either because you can't.
I use it all the time as do thousands of other photographers and video editors.
The guys that built the engine it uses run a professional movie studio, and you think you have needs that they can't meet? They built it because there is nothing on the market that you can buy that does all the things it does.
PS didn't do enough for them to use in a professional studio, so they built GEGL.

 

[Dave442]

All I can say is that I downloaded it and hope to use it this week.
A couple years ago I debated between Nik and On1, went with On1 as it has layers and I did not have PS at the time. So now I have Nik and On1.

 

[Vtec44]

Dang long thread. Thanks @cherylynne1 for posting this!

Photoshop has been the industry's standard for decades. To get a job in the creative industry, it's given that you have to know how to use a lot of Adobe products (even if you feel that it's crappy LOL ).

 

[480sparky]

.........Version 2.9.2 is now live, ..........

Once again........ where does one go to download it?

 

[Ysarex]

Version 2.9.2 is now live, it's not unstable,

From the official GIMP website: " The current development branch is GIMP 2.9 and will finally lead to the next stable GIMP release 2.10. For instructions, how to build GIMP from source code, please see this page. Nightly builds for Windows are available at darkrefraction.com. This is unstable software, please use it at your own risk.

I have GIMP 2.9.2 installed on my system. It still has debugging comments visible in the tools. The GIMP developers say in print that it's unstable.

You are proven wrong.

Joe