What the folks around here REALLY think of you and your photos.

[crimbfighter]

IMHO, the point being missed is that trained professionals in any field are often beset by non pros who automatically feel some type of kinship because they do as a hobby what the pro does as a vocation. "Hey, look, I've got a camera too!" What they often don't realize is the pro has technical knowledge and experience far beyond what they have.

I'm a pastry chef, so I'm often approached by people who have no formal training, but lots of recipes from grandma. Mostly what they produce is competently done, but far from professional standards. They usually have a different opinion of their work. So what do me and my pastry chef friends do when we get together? We share our stories about these family members and friends, and we do it in a mostly humorous, often sarcastic way. Do we mean any harm? No. We don't hate or bare malice towards these people. Are we talking down to them? No, but I understand where it could be interpreted that way. What we're doing is venting over a type of behavior/attitude that gets thrusts upon us with regularity by people who don't have the technical knowledge or experience that we do, and don't understand the difference that makes. That's all that blog is, venting. If you don't vent, sooner or later you go to work for the Post Office and buy a gun.

:thumbup: Very accurate statement! This type of behavior is pretty consistent across the board, no matter what profession, hobby, talent you are in. I get it all the time. It's funny how many people think they're cops because they know someone who is a cop, watched CSI and Law & Order too many times, or took a constitutional law class in college. We humor them on the street, then chuckle about it later. Doesn't mean we don't like that person, it's just how people deal with it, rationalize it and so on. This rant just happened to be what normally would be reserved for a peer to peer conversation, but instead got directed at those who represent the subject.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

That blog is hilarious!

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photographic-discussions/233525-photojournalist-fun-blog.html
Poor KmH

Tell me about it.

I had the newbies sensabilities in mind when I posted it in Photographic Discussions and didn't point everyone to the funniest post on the page.

But for so many members, the only place worth posting is the Beginners Forum and Gallery.

Didn't realize it was a double post....... My apologies. I don't make it to the other forums yet... they are strange and scary to me due to my extreme noobness.

Hahaha. Just browse the forums using the "New Posts" button up top.
You will soon realize, with few exceptions, that the whole forum reads like the beginner section. Pros post in the beginner section, beginners post in the professional gallery, people ask what camera to buy in the general gallery...try it...you'll see. :lmao:

 

[Stradawhovious]

Hahaha. Just browse the forums using the "New Posts" button up top.
You will soon realize, with few exceptions, that the whole forum reads like the beginner section. Pros post in the beginner section, beginners post in the professional gallery, people ask what camera to buy in the general gallery...try it...you'll see. :lmao:

You mean I will likely see the same crazy overboard intrawebs drama and "offended delicate flower" like over-reaction on the other forums I see in the beginner's area?!?!?
I'm on it!:coffee:

[exits like a streak of lightning to the "NEW POSTS" button]

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

YES!

 

[ausemmao]

Had a great laugh at this one.... Blog labelled "**** photojournalists like / Judging Amateurs"

Look HERE

Hi-Freakin-larious.

Also seemingly very, very true.

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I'm glad I finished my drink before I started that :lmao:

 

[spacefuzz]

I guess the problem is photography is too forgiving. If amateurs try to perform my job without training....there is a high rate of natural selection.

So if when you got your exposure wrong your camera exploded.....then you wouldnt have to worry about amateurs like me edging in on the pro buisiness.

 

[Ron Evers]

Remembering my skiing days - folks with the fastest clothes were never seen @ the top of the hill.

 

[Abby Rose]

According to him noobs are keeping the cat population under control...

"everytime you use a kit lens a kitten dies"

*Dead kittens are not funny, but that tag was*

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

So if when you got your exposure wrong your camera exploded.....then you wouldnt have to worry about amateurs like me edging in on the pro buisiness.

:lmao:

 

[Croissant Seven]

I believe that was an insinuation that he was going to attack Tyler's computer.

I have a friend who is a programmer and what not and apparently can hack people's computers as long as he knows their e-mail addresses.

I'm hardly that sophisticated.

*drops netbook in toilet*

 

[e.rose]

*drops netbook in toilet*

I did that with my phone once... :lmao:

 

[Croissant Seven]

*drops netbook in toilet*

I did that with my phone once... :lmao:

I watched a very drunk man drop his phone into a full-wall urinal in Dublin, then fall face first into the floor trough when he bent down to retrieve it, splitting his lip on the porcelain. But that wasn't the best part.

The guy next to him looked over, saw his chum bleeding face down in urine, and immediately projectile vomited.

I love Ireland.

 

[e.rose]

*drops netbook in toilet*

I did that with my phone once... :lmao:

I watched a very drunk man drop his phone into a full-wall urinal in Dublin, then fall face first into the floor trough when he bent down to retrieve it, splitting his lip on the porcelain. But that wasn't the best part.

The guy next to him looked over, saw his chum bleeding face down in urine, and immediately projectile vomited.

I love Ireland.

Niiiiiiiiiiiiice.

 

[Croissant Seven]

As for me being a weenus, let me explain.

Everything that I'm good at and love, I taught myself. I taught myself bass guitar, then 6 string, then drums, then piano, now I'm learning cello. I've played well over 100 shows as a rock musician.

I taught myself to snowboard. I tried teaching myself to ski but I wrecked myself and said "mmmm...nah."

I taught myself to use Photoshop and Illustrator when my bands needed higher-than-punk-rock-quality logo work and promotional material, and I taught myself how to use Cubase when it came time to record a demo, then albums.

Now I'm teaching myself photography, and hope to one day be a semi-pro photographer, given the circumstances I'm trying to put myself into.

Along the way, with everything I've learned to do on my own, I've had to deal with haters who tried to ridicule me into giving up, or accepting my "place" in relation to themselves. I was never given the opportunity to take music lessons, go to art school, or have private snowboarding instructions growing up, so I took control of what I wanted to do and just did it.

Art has a high level of elitism associated with it, and there seems to always be a cadre of guys who resent dudes like me coming into their territory, when they spent X number of years in art school, had private instruction on their high-dollar basses by name artists, or had a ton of apprenticeship time, and that resentment sucks. So when I read articles like that, I can see the humor involved, but really, that attitude just pisses me off.

Every year, I teach at least one kid to snowboard. I've given bass guitars to kids to learn on and never asked for them back, and showed them the ropes to get them started. I want to share what I have, even if it means "competition", because you know, in any discipline, competition improves outcomes from the top people. Even if that means dealing with the occasional chump with more money than sense.

*triple gainer backflip off soapbox into vat of Miller Lite*

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

What does semi-pro mean? That you get semi-paid?