What the folks around here REALLY think of you and your photos.

[Croissant Seven]

What does semi-pro mean? That you get semi-paid?

Good point, let me adjust my vernacular.

I'm going into the water quality/pollution cleanup/watershed management field and I will be moving to a mountain town or small city adjacent to the mountains (Missoula, Bozeman, Carson City, etc.). I wouldn't be pursuing photography as a career, and I'm not into for-hire style stuff, I want to make a little name as a writer and photographer for nature and snowsports magazines. It's a goal I had before I mortgaged my life to a woman and a cubicle, and now that I'm free of those scourges, I want to go after it.

Does that explain it better?

 

[davisphotos]

@BitterJeweler-Hah! I like that....semi-pro gear is semi-expensive, so maybe semi-pros get semi-paid. And I agree with @subscuck 100%. I'm a professional photographer, I enjoy photography, but it's not all I want to talk about. And every time somebody asks me for a suggestion for a point and shoot, I cringe a little, and try to explain without sounding too 'elitist' that the only compact cameras I can suggest are at least $500.

I run into the same thing for being a graphic designer-people ask me questions about how to do something in Outlook or Powerpoint or Word, and I really can't help them, because I don't use those programs.

So a lot of the conversations I avoid isn't because I'm an elitist snob, it's because I don't have anything useful to add.

 

[Nolan]

As great as all the other blog posts are on this site... is anyone going HOLY $!&% LOOK AT THAT MUG! I think I may just get one... only it will be a Nikon mug rather then a pathetic Cannon one as seen in the tumblr post....

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

What does semi-pro mean? That you get semi-paid?

Good point, let me adjust my vernacular.

I'm going into the water quality/pollution cleanup/watershed management field and I will be moving to a mountain town or small city adjacent to the mountains (Missoula, Bozeman, Carson City, etc.). I wouldn't be pursuing photography as a career, and I'm not into for-hire style stuff, I want to make a little name as a writer and photographer for nature and snowsports magazines. It's a goal I had before I mortgaged my life to a woman and a cubicle, and now that I'm free of those scourges, I want to go after it.

Does that explain it better?

Yeah. Good luck! I mean that sincerely, rather than a dismissive snarky way.

As great as all the other blog posts are on this site... is anyone going HOLY $!&% LOOK AT THAT MUG! I think I may just get one... only it will be a Nikon mug rather then a pathetic Cannon one as seen in the tumblr post....

Cool! A Nikon Fanboi! :roll:

 

[e.rose]

As great as all the other blog posts are on this site... is anyone going HOLY $!&% LOOK AT THAT MUG! I think I may just get one... only it will be a Nikon mug rather then a pathetic Cannon one as seen in the tumblr post....

Yes, I've been saying that for months... except mine WILL be a pathetic Canon (one 'n', not two) one as seen in the Tumblr post.

Or maybe I'll get the L lens version since it probably holds more...

I don't actually really care *what* lens it's modeled after as long as it has moving parts like one of my friend's lens mugs!

 

[Overread36]

It's over now but you could have owned a Real L lens mug - not a rip off - not a half made bit of plastic - the proper all metal finish '

 

[e.rose]

It's over now but you could have owned a Real L lens mug - not a rip off - not a half made bit of plastic - the proper all metal finish '

YouTube - World's First Canon 300mm L Lens Cup (real L lens!)

That's AWESOME! :lmao:

 

[Croissant Seven]

I wont always have semi-expensive gear. But while I'm semi-employed and semi-enrolled in school, my semi-pro camera and semi-quality lenses are gonna suffice for my semi-skill level. Semi-sarcasm gives me a semi.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Hahaha. Just browse the forums using the "New Posts" button up top.
You will soon realize, with few exceptions, that the whole forum reads like the beginner section. Pros post in the beginner section, beginners post in the professional gallery, people ask what camera to buy in the general gallery...try it...you'll see. :lmao:

You mean I will likely see the same crazy overboard intrawebs drama and "offended delicate flower" like over-reaction on the other forums I see in the beginner's area?!?!?
I'm on it!:coffee:

[exits like a streak of lightning to the "NEW POSTS" button]

From "Beyond the Basics" - http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/beyond-basics/233707-canon-camera-out-box-picture-quality.html

 

[enzodm]

From "Beyond the Basics" - http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/beyond-basics/233707-canon-camera-out-box-picture-quality.html

so, you are telling the whole Internet is just an extra-large beginners forum?

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Possibly?

 

[Stradawhovious]

I positively ADORE the intrawebs. They're dramariffic!!

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

 

[DerekSalem]

I'm sure the spite is tongue-in-cheek. If not, then you're right. He's an asshat. A hilarious, hilarious Asshat.

I have a very strong distaste towards elitists of any type, and I have to say that, even in my short time as a hackatuer photographer, I've yet to encounter a "pro" photographer that wasn't dismissive and snarky to my face. I like taking pictures of them to piss them off.

All I can say to dudes like that is, don't hate me and my $500 DSLR and kit lenses, hate Nikon for making it so cheap that I can get all up inside your game, sucka.

You should see how territorial the "pro" photographers are in snowboard parks, especially Breckenridge. They act like, if you take a certain picture, you're stealing it from them. Doesn't help that most of them are bro-brah trustfund hippies with their typical attitudes, and not really "professional" at all, they're just trying to break into something, just like I am. Except their gear is much more expensive...as are their clothes. Tools.

I couldn't disagree more.

BTW, you're being more dismissive and snarky than almost every "pro" I've ever met in my life. I'm not a pro by *any* means but I do love taking pictures. I am amazed every day by the number of new "Photography Studios" that start up out of nowhere. Most of them are 17 year olds with Rebels and kit lenses and think they should have a business because they can take pictures.

I'm not saying someone can't be a pro or make a living using a Rebel...there are a few people on this site that use Rebels and blow me away by the pictures they take. They could easily make a living out of it.

At the same time I'm using a 7D and multiple L lenses...and I don't. Why? Because I don't think I'm talented enough. I could easily sell a lot of the events I do for a discounted price, but I don't because I think it would ruin the integrity of Photography as a whole. I don't want to add to the thought that Photography should be cheap for the end-user.

 

[Croissant Seven]

I have a very strong distaste towards elitists of any type, and I have to say that, even in my short time as a hackatuer photographer, I've yet to encounter a "pro" photographer that wasn't dismissive and snarky to my face. I like taking pictures of them to piss them off.

All I can say to dudes like that is, don't hate me and my $500 DSLR and kit lenses, hate Nikon for making it so cheap that I can get all up inside your game, sucka.

You should see how territorial the "pro" photographers are in snowboard parks, especially Breckenridge. They act like, if you take a certain picture, you're stealing it from them. Doesn't help that most of them are bro-brah trustfund hippies with their typical attitudes, and not really "professional" at all, they're just trying to break into something, just like I am. Except their gear is much more expensive...as are their clothes. Tools.

I couldn't disagree more.

BTW, you're being more dismissive and snarky than almost every "pro" I've ever met in my life. I'm not a pro by *any* means but I do love taking pictures. I am amazed every day by the number of new "Photography Studios" that start up out of nowhere. Most of them are 17 year olds with Rebels and kit lenses and think they should have a business because they can take pictures.

I'm not saying someone can't be a pro or make a living using a Rebel...there are a few people on this site that use Rebels and blow me away by the pictures they take. They could easily make a living out of it.

At the same time I'm using a 7D and multiple L lenses...and I don't. Why? Because I don't think I'm talented enough. I could easily sell a lot of the events I do for a discounted price, but I don't because I think it would ruin the integrity of Photography as a whole. I don't want to add to the thought that Photography should be cheap for the end-user.

What exactly do you disagree with?

Point to the dismissiveness, also. I'll cop to being snarky.

As far as the "integrity" of photography, and the idea that it shouldn't be cheap for the end-user, exactly what about technological advances bothers you the most? We'll never stop things from being more accessible and less expensive as long as there's a drive to compete in the marketplace.

In a way, the advent of inexpensive DSLR's has made expensive equipment more readily available and less expensive for the high-end user, not to mention more awesome. Just look at the curve that advancements in imaging technology has taken over the last 10 years, and slide it up next to the affordability of mass produced digital P&S's...R&D money doesn't come from selling ten thousand $5000 cameras a year.

Then you have Adobe slinging Photoshop to students for $99, and making it WAY more intuitive and user-friendly. I taught my mom how to fix her photos in PS CS3 in a matter of minutes.

If you want to blame someone for the downfall of the "integrity" of photography, blame the manufacturers of the camera equipment and editing software for taking a once daunting, expensive,and labor intensive task, and making it so easy and cheap that a 12 year old can master it.

Take it from someone with the mind and imagination of a 9 year old.

 

[benlonghair]

I sell sheetrock for a living.

"Hi, Home Depot has sheets for $2 less per sheet."
"That's nice."
"Will you match their price?"
"They won't match my service, so I won't match their price."
"Oh, what's the difference?"
"Well, Home Depot drops all the sheetrock for your house in your garage. You have to carry it everywhere. I put it in every room, upstairs and downstairs and guarantee there will be no damage."
"Oh. When can I schedule a delivery?"

See how that works? Sure, you can get sh*tty service for cheap, but sometimes the lowest bidder isn't the best for the job. Charge what you're worth and stop b*tching.