c.cloudwalker
TPF Noob!
- Joined
- Jun 15, 2009
- Messages
- 5,394
- Reaction score
- 405
- Location
- An American in Europe
- Can others edit my Photos
- Photos NOT OK to edit
My wife hates that I answer a lot of question in a "yes and no" kind of way but life is not B&W, it is shades of gray. A lot of points raised so far are valid. At the same time they are useless because some things about human nature cannot be changed in a group situation such as this forum.
For example, the critique problem. Yes, I agree that those coming from noobs who don't know jack about photography can be extremely annoying. Some noob just learned about the rule of third and will remind everyone in sight when they don't apply it with no understanding that rules are meant to be broken. ANNOYING! At the same time, how are they supposed to learn? They have to act like idiots like most of us more experienced people did once upon a time.
No forum is perfect but, to be honest, the ones that think they are better are not necessarily that at all. Go start your own forum and let us know how it works out.
I belong to 2 photo forums where you don't just join. Your work will be reviewed and you will only be let in if its quality satisfies the "board of admissions" or whoever decides. So yes, the quality of the work and the membership is much higher. Does it make those places better? NO. A noob would be so totally lost there that he would find them absolutely horrible. It's a matter of perspective.
But the noobs have to have a place to go too. Yes they ask stupid things and we probably asked the same stupid things at some point so, your question is kind of elitist. If you don't have the patience, and I'll agree that it can be taxing, it is time for you to move on.
Nothing wrong with either way you go but it's your decision and you shouldn't have to ask others about it. This community is what it is. Deal with it or leave it or find a way to deal with it that is livable. At least on a forum this big it is easy enough to avoid the people you really can't stand. Much harder on a place with just a few members.
I just left another forum for the second time because I couldn't deal with it. The first time I was "asked" to come back and I made the mistake of going back. Nothing had changed in a few weeks, obviously, so I'm gone again. Unfortunately, my leaving this time is not as friendly. And that is too bad because my having a problem with that place doesn't really mean it is a bad place. It just doesn't fit me but somebody else may very well find what they want there.
Same thing here. No, it is not perfect, but it is not half as bad as some people want to make it sound. You don't like it, fine. It just is not the place for you.
As for the drive-by posters, I don't get the problem. Just don't click on links from members with barely any posts, that's it. Done.
For example, the critique problem. Yes, I agree that those coming from noobs who don't know jack about photography can be extremely annoying. Some noob just learned about the rule of third and will remind everyone in sight when they don't apply it with no understanding that rules are meant to be broken. ANNOYING! At the same time, how are they supposed to learn? They have to act like idiots like most of us more experienced people did once upon a time.
No forum is perfect but, to be honest, the ones that think they are better are not necessarily that at all. Go start your own forum and let us know how it works out.
I belong to 2 photo forums where you don't just join. Your work will be reviewed and you will only be let in if its quality satisfies the "board of admissions" or whoever decides. So yes, the quality of the work and the membership is much higher. Does it make those places better? NO. A noob would be so totally lost there that he would find them absolutely horrible. It's a matter of perspective.
But the noobs have to have a place to go too. Yes they ask stupid things and we probably asked the same stupid things at some point so, your question is kind of elitist. If you don't have the patience, and I'll agree that it can be taxing, it is time for you to move on.
Nothing wrong with either way you go but it's your decision and you shouldn't have to ask others about it. This community is what it is. Deal with it or leave it or find a way to deal with it that is livable. At least on a forum this big it is easy enough to avoid the people you really can't stand. Much harder on a place with just a few members.
I just left another forum for the second time because I couldn't deal with it. The first time I was "asked" to come back and I made the mistake of going back. Nothing had changed in a few weeks, obviously, so I'm gone again. Unfortunately, my leaving this time is not as friendly. And that is too bad because my having a problem with that place doesn't really mean it is a bad place. It just doesn't fit me but somebody else may very well find what they want there.
Same thing here. No, it is not perfect, but it is not half as bad as some people want to make it sound. You don't like it, fine. It just is not the place for you.
As for the drive-by posters, I don't get the problem. Just don't click on links from members with barely any posts, that's it. Done.