5D MKIII or 6D...

[runnah]

That's the one thing I wish it didn't have. I have exactly zero interest in shooting video. I know that capability is strong with the MKIII, but it's something I would never use beyond the "let's goof with it" phase. If I want to shoot video, I'll use my phone or my G12...

I think you are thinking of it as "just another feature" when in fact it's a huge deal. Like I said before it's not just a cell phone quality video it's a full on production quality video camera. The quality blows most video only cameras out of the water.

I dare say it's revolutionized the industry.

 

[Steve5D]

That's the one thing I wish it didn't have. I have exactly zero interest in shooting video. I know that capability is strong with the MKIII, but it's something I would never use beyond the "let's goof with it" phase. If I want to shoot video, I'll use my phone or my G12...

I think you are thinking of it as "just another feature" when in fact it's a huge deal. Like I said before it's not just a cell phone quality video it's a full on production quality video camera. The quality blows most video only cameras out of the water.

I dare say it's revolutionized the industry.

I'm not saying it's not a quality feature. I'm not saying it's not revolutionized the industry (which, I suppose, could be debated). I have, however, said it's something that I simply would not use. I'm not at all interested in producing video. If someone doesn't want to hire me because I don't do video (and that's already happened), I'm completely cool with that. When I played music for a living, I lost out on gigs because I didn't play reggae. That was fine. Playing reggae didn't interest me in the least.

So, while video may be a huge deal to some, it's pretty meaningless to me. It's simply something else that can break. I fully acknowledge that the likelihood of buying a new body without video capability is going to be slim, its mere presence isn't going to suddenly compel me to buy one.

I can say this unequivocally: If I buy a MkIII, it's not going to be because of the video capabilities...

 

[imagemaker46]

Have to agree with Steve on the Video feature. I would rather have a straight up camera that doesn't do anything but what I want it to do, and that is shoot stills. If I wanted to shoot video I would rather buy a video camera.

 

[TinySquid]

I can say this unequivocally: If I buy a MkIII, it's not going to be because of the video capabilities...

That's good, because I'd argue that the 70D's auto focusing system (that actually works) makes it much better suited for most video work. If you're in a controlled environment and are used to and practiced in manually focusing video equipment, then the 5D is great but the quality difference is negligible unless you start shooting RAW video through ML and you don't have the option of auto focus.

With that out of the way, it sounds like this is really going to come down to a few feature differences which are covered here: Canon 5D Mark III vs. 6D

There's some give-and-take here as the 6D has some features that the Mk.III doesn't and the Mk.III can do some stuff that the 6D can't... it all depends on which of these features/differences you value.

Side note: don't immediately write features like GPS off as a gimmick, since it can actually be pretty useful for location scouting (I recently started a photo session location folder with this--scroll through the folder in Bridge, find a location that looks right for what I want to do, punch the GPS info from Exif into Google Maps, and off I go).

 

[minicoop1985]

Looks like I'm the only 6D'er in the group. I've used both, and love the 6D so much more! The Mark's body seems to be so much heavier, and I'm not a fan of the extra weight. 6D shot from today, 50mm - 1.8 - 1/160 - 640 ISO

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I'd do a 6D too. The controls look VERY similar to my 7D, so I have a feeling using it wouldn't be much different. As much as I want to throw a 5D mk III in people's faces and tell them I MUST BE BETTER BECAUSE I HAVE A 5D HAAAAHAHAHAHA that's not going to help as I prove how someone CAN be horrible with a full frame camera.


Edit: Oh crap, I confused them. It's the 5D mk III that has the similar controls. Son of a...

 

[shaylou]

I'd argue that you can't remove price from the equation. Are they both great camera bodies? Yes. Do they offer comparable image quality? Yes. Are there differences between the two? Yes, but whether or not the differences matter depends on your use case. So if someone's use case doesn't significantly take advantage of the differences, then it comes down to whether the differences are worth the price delta. I couldn't justify the price difference given my use case and other equipment. Yes, the 6D's focusing system is pretty simplistic but it gets the job done, the center focus point really is amazing in low light, and the control layout is better for single handed operation (granted, I don't like how Canon puts the power switch on the left...I prefer the Nikon-style power switch around the shutter release). The 6D/70D combo that I went with offers me more capability and flexibility than a single 5D Mk.III body ever could and the two bodies together cost less than a single 5D Mk.III. The Mk.III does feel more refined, but a camera is a utilitarian thing to me so that perception of additional refinement doesn't add value. But what do I know... I'm crazy. :lmao:

How can you argue the price when the op question clearly stated take that out of the equation?

Easy, the idea of simply ignoring price is silly given that the cameras are all built to a price point with a different use case in mind--5D and 1D included. It's no different than ridiculous tech customers who pull the 'money is no object, I want the best' BS. In the realm of reality, everything has cost and use case constraints as well as functional trade-offs.

Once again the op took price out of the equation. He could be a gazillionaire for all you know. Silly is thinking that you understand everyone's situation. When I am looking for equipment I always take price out of the equation at first and look at a quality comparison. Once I have a clear understanding of how the product compares I add price back in. It's only at that point I can make a sound decision about what to buy. Sometimes I find that what I really should buy is out of my price range so I have to wait to buy it. Other times I find that the extra price is not worth the features. If you are a salesman and your customers tell you that price doesn't matter (like I would) and you are dismissing that statement you are doing a disservice to your customers.

 

[Steve5D]

Easy, the idea of simply ignoring price is silly given that the cameras are all built to a price point with a different use case in mind--5D and 1D included. It's no different than ridiculous tech customers who pull the 'money is no object, I want the best' BS. In the realm of reality, everything has cost and use case constraints as well as functional trade-offs.

It's not silly. I wanted to hear input based solely on features. Given the fact that some actually chose the 6D, I wasn't off base.

If you can't bring yourself to address the question asked, really, you won't offend me if you don't respond.

The question can be discussed without a discussion of price, and that's kinda' what I'm going for, thanks...

 

[Steve5D]

He could be a gazillionaire for all you know.

LOL! Man, I wish!

Silly is thinking that you understand everyone's situation. When I am looking for equipment I always take price out of the equation at first and look at a quality comparison. Once I have a clear understanding of how the product compares I add price back in. It's only at that point I can make a sound decision about what to buy. Sometimes I find that what I really should buy is out of my price range so I have to wait to buy it. Other times I find that the extra price is not worth the features. If you are a salesman and your customers tell you that price doesn't matter (like I would) and you are dismissing that statement you are doing a disservice to your customers.

Either body will fit into my budget. I'm far more interested in the capabilities of each than I am with the price of each...

 

[tevo]

5D3 so you don't have to change your TPF username.

 

[Steve5D]

5D3 so you don't have to change your TPF username.

 

[kathyt]

Mark III because it has so many focal points.

 

[robbins.photo]

Well, I've certainly been called "crazy" on occasion.

Ahh.. crap. Was that out loud? Sorry Steve. Lol

ideo is something that simply doesn't interest me in the least. It's like shooting weddings. You could say "Someone would be crazy to not to want to shoot weddings, because that's where the big money is!"

No interest in video or shooting weddings here either. In fact I think shooting a video at a wedding would fall under the "fate worse than death" category.

I'm not on any "bandwagon". The word "bandwagon" suggests that I don't want to do video because it's popular to not to want to do video. I don't want to do video because I don't want to do video; it simply doesn't interest me. I suppose that could change at some point but, if I'm not going to allow a remote possibility (and, trust me, it's remote) to dictate a gear purchase. Also, my lack of appropriate video equipment doesn't seem to have hurt my business.

Funny thing is the expression "jump on the bandwagon" actually got started when a guy who used to be a famous circus clown ran for president back in the late 1800's. Considering how many clowns get elected today I guess the phrase still works.. lol.

 

[runnah]

Maybe its because none of you shoot video on a regular basis but to just disregard it completely is a crime. I am constantly blown away by how good the video is on a little dslr body.

 

[ronlane]

Mark III because it has so many focal points.

I thought you only need one, as long as it's focused on you. huh?

 

[bribrius]

I love video. Don't know enough about it but I have the old camcorders still kicking around put it that way. Use my cameras for video now. Granted not on a pro level. I like it for family home movies, martial arts competitions, considering coming up with a play right now for the kids to perform for fun make a little movie out of it. Works for music recitals...
I have definitely found a use for video.
save them to a laptop, plug the laptop into the tv and we sit around eating popcorn watching them. kids really get a kick out of seeing themselves on tv.