Artistic Nudity discussion?

DecadentDashes · Jan 6, 2011

I agree with you on that one Erose. For me most of those pictures, no matter how well they are taken, fall under pornography rather than artistic nude. I see it as a combination of body language and perspective. When the model's posturing screams 'sex' the photograph stops acting as a medium to showcase the art and vision of the photographer and starts selling or projecting the sex appeal of the model. That may very well be the vision of the photographer, which is perfectly fine, but then don't label it 'artistic nude'. Just call it by what it is.

That's how I feel about it anyway.

GeorgieGirl · Jan 6, 2011

I can't see the flikr, I need to log in and I don't think I have one...

FWIW, I have been provided links by some here to truly beautiful work. Artisitc work that is impressive and wow. They are highly styled set-ups and the best of technical photography. They are photgraphic works of art. Top Shelf. I don't think they can be confused with porn at all.

I have not seen that kind of work posted here.

Rob1n · Jan 6, 2011

There is a massive differnce betweeen the two, intent. Is the intent to sexualy arouse the viewer if yes then it's porn. simple really.

AleK · Jan 6, 2011

You've pretty right Erose86.

if i take exemple of my works.
it's fine art nude, not erotic or pornographic, for my taste.

Beast

Je perds mes plumes

Madame

Derrel · Jan 6, 2011

Wow...this discussion has been populated by an "either art or porn" degree of extremism that's pretty narrow-minded. Where does erotica come in? How does one go straight to "porn"? Overall, some ridiculous comments have been made in this thread.

MichiganFarts · Jan 6, 2011

Derrel said:
Wow...this discussion has been populated by an "either art or porn" degree of extremism that's pretty narrow-minded. Where does erotica come in? How does one go straight to "porn"? Overall, some ridiculous comments have been made in this thread.

Ironically, your opinion seems to be the only one that matters to you, making your post the most narrow minded in this thread.

eVilcreations · Jan 6, 2011

There is a lot of good opinions in this thread, thank you all for spawning this discussion.

I guess more important than anything in how the photos are looked at, is how society has influenced a persons views or beliefs.

What some call artistic nudity, others would blatantly call pornography.

Please continue the discussion as I really like all the different opinions and arguments.

Yucel · Jan 6, 2011

eVilcreations said:
At what point does the human form turn from artistic nudity into pornography?

Obviously photos depicting acts of any kind that are sexual in nature would be past that line into the realm of pornography.

Josh

Having thought about this, I wrote at lenght about it, and you can see the detail if you like at link below, let me say this about any

..."obvious depictions of acts of ANY kind ... sexual in nature ... would be... pornography."

This makes a lot of nature shows about dolphins mating pornographic. This makes the photo of the sailor kissing the woman in NY after WWII pornographic...

If you think I am being overly picky here... I am with the comment above about views of porn being culture specific.

In some countries, and some societies, these kinds of images ARE considered pornographic. In others, well... viva l'internet.

For more of the general discussion see: The Line between Art Nude and Pornographic Obscene, Where is it? | Cultured Woman, LLC

table1349 · Jan 6, 2011

Just wondering, should we be discussing this subject here, since we are not big enough boys and girls to have a Photo Gallery forum here to display such artistic works? :lol:

GeorgieGirl · Jan 6, 2011

I think from what I have seen so far its best to leave it to other sites due to quality issues. :blushing:

RockDawg · Jan 6, 2011

MichiganFarts said:
Derrel said:

Wow...this discussion has been populated by an "either art or porn" degree of extremism that's pretty narrow-minded. Where does erotica come in? How does one go straight to "porn"? Overall, some ridiculous comments have been made in this thread.

Click to expand...

Ironically, your opinion seems to be the only one that matters to you, making your post the most narrow minded in this thread.

This is SOOO true. I am always amazed at how often the "open-minded" don't have an open mind when it comes to "closed or narrow-minded" people's point of view. Oh sure, they have an open-mind when it comes to what other people should tolerate or accept, but shouldn't they, by virtue of their own beliefs, tolerate or accept other's so-called limited views?

As for the porn versus art topic, I'm generally among the more narrow-minded of view points. To me, most nudity that involves genitalia is more pornographic than art (with the exception of things like nude baby pictures). My thinking is that it is, by definition, sexual in nature. I know MANY people disagree and that's cool. We all have out own beliefs.

gsgary · Jan 7, 2011

Looks like they have banned a subject that is very popular, this is a friend from another forum who shoots some really great and interesting stuff
Project Latex Land
P&P IMAGE FACTORY: photography of Martin Perreault & Gil Perron

dnurv · Jan 7, 2011

hello...my flickr account shows several referrals from this forum...i suppose i should thank some one...perhaps not...

some may find the link* below will help explain how i interpret the adult images i see and how i chose to describe them...

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*it appears i can't hot link here with a new account
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you are welcome to contact me directly at...ooops**
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**apparently i can't even post a email address..so try me at flickr...i'll pass along the appropriate links if you are at all interested...

regards

dana richardson
aka dnurv