Canon Glass vs. Nikon Glass

[IDLaxStar]

So I have heard from multiple people that Canon glass is generally cheaper then Nikon glass but the same quality. Is there any truth here?

 

[Neil S.]

OH NOES...

 

[o hey tyler]

OH NOES...

Seconded.

 

[tirediron]

Someone pass the popcorn?

 

[Derrel]

Uh...oh....but, to add something here...has anybody noticed that Canon, and Sigma have recently started pricing significantly higher than they used to??? I mean, look at what Sigma has done with its 70-200 f/2.8 lenses...they used to be at $799 retail...now they have jacked that price up to some ridiculous list price, like $2199 or something, and are getting like $1600 for it at actual retail!!! Meanwhile, Tamron's 70-200 f/2.8 lens is in the $800 price range, more or less...it seems like Canon and Sigma are raising the stakes on us...

Conversely, there is also now a move underway to make really quite low-cost kit zooms, like 55-200 and 18-55 lenses and 70-300 lenses that cost less than such lenses used to cost, even a few years ago. The quality of the lower-priced lenses is better now than it was in the 1970's, in my opinion. it used to be almost impossible to make a good 4x ratio zoom....but now all the makers can crank out pretty doggone good lenses for relatively low amounts of money--if they want to play in a particular segment.

The 18-105mm kit zoom for example--surprisingly sharp and good, for such a wide-ranging ratio of focal lengths, from wide-view to telephoto....light,and affordable(ish).

 

[Taylor510ce]

Derrel has dreams at night about these threads....lol.

 

[Overread]

So I have heard from multiple people that Canon glass is generally cheaper then Nikon glass but the same quality. Is there any truth here?

I now present to you the only thing Canon can do that Nikon can't (at least straight out of the box with lenses - there are of course ways to get similar and better quality shots with various alternate setups - like microscope elements, reverse mounting and diopters)

Otherwise when it comes to comparing the systems it is a case of splitting hairs on quality and on mix/matching specific lenses to ones needs.

And yes Canon and Sigma have been boosting prices a lot recently. Partly this is through the financial downturn, but I also think that in the case of sigma they are now making a serious push into the pro market or at least the semi-pro market with their gear/

 

[Neil S.]

I now present to you the only thing Canon can do that Nikon can't (at least straight out of the box with lenses - there are of course ways to get similar and better quality shots with various alternate setups - like microscope elements, reverse mounting and diopters)

Well theres at least one more thing...

That is shooting with the 85 1.2 wide open, and having like 99% of the shot out of focus lol.

Please explain more about what that photo is, and what lens it was. Great pic by the way, very unique. :thumbup:

I dont really know what you are talking about here though lol...

 

[tirediron]

I now present to you the only thing Canon can do that Nikon can't (at least straight out of the box with lenses - there are of course ways to get similar and better quality shots with various alternate setups - like microscope elements, reverse mounting and diopters)
...

:raisedbrow: You can't shoot albino termites with Nikon glass? What am I missing?

 

[KmH]

A 1:5 macro ratio?

 

[Overread]

:raisedbrow: You can't shoot albino termites with Nikon glass? What am I missing?

Please explain more about what that photo is, and what lens it was. Great pic by the way, very unique. :thumbup:

A 1:5 macro ratio?

5:1

It's a springtail - for an idea its something like 2mm long at the most - taken with the Canon MPE65mm macro. I'm quite serious as well its the only truly unique lens in the canon/nikon lineup. Each company has their own unique lenses, eg canons 100-400mm and nikons 200-400mm but each company can cover the same subjects/situations as the other. Clearly dedicated enthusiasts with clear and select interests might favour one company over the other because of specific lenses.
However the MPE is the only 1:1 to 5:1 macro "zoom" lens on the market - though as I said there are other ways to get to 5:1 and some of them are actually better (image quality wise) than the MPE

 

[prodigy2k7]

Uh...oh....but, to add something here...has anybody noticed that Canon, and Sigma have recently started pricing significantly higher than they used to??? I mean, look at what Sigma has done with its 70-200 f/2.8 lenses...they used to be at $799 retail...now they have jacked that price up to some ridiculous list price, like $2199 or something, and are getting like $1600 for it at actual retail!!! Meanwhile, Tamron's 70-200 f/2.8 lens is in the $800 price range, more or less...it seems like Canon and Sigma are raising the stakes on us...

Conversely, there is also now a move underway to make really quite low-cost kit zooms, like 55-200 and 18-55 lenses and 70-300 lenses that cost less than such lenses used to cost, even a few years ago. The quality of the lower-priced lenses is better now than it was in the 1970's, in my opinion. it used to be almost impossible to make a good 4x ratio zoom....but now all the makers can crank out pretty doggone good lenses for relatively low amounts of money--if they want to play in a particular segment.

The 18-105mm kit zoom for example--surprisingly sharp and good, for such a wide-ranging ratio of focal lengths, from wide-view to telephoto....light,and affordable(ish).

Yes, its pissing me off -.-
canon's 70-200mm F/2.8 IS used to be $1600 now its $1900?
I bought my canon 50mm F/1.4 for $300, its now $350
They both increased by a fixed % (or near fixed lol)

 

[Derrel]

I think it's safe to say that the Japanese lens makers have a real "Yen" for American dollars. And European Euros. And British Pounds Sterling.

 

[Overread]

Yah everything from canon, sigma and nikon took around a 20%+ (or now I think on it was it 40 - some big number) price hike about half a year after the recession kicked in. In the case of canon and nikon this was a few 10% price increases (excluding canons new pricing on new M2 released lenses) whilst sigma did it in one big price jump.

 

[gsgary]

:raisedbrow: You can't shoot albino termites with Nikon glass? What am I missing?

Please explain more about what that photo is, and what lens it was. Great pic by the way, very unique. :thumbup:

A 1:5 macro ratio?

5:1

It's a springtail - for an idea its something like 2mm long at the most - taken with the Canon MPE65mm macro. I'm quite serious as well its the only truly unique lens in the canon/nikon lineup. Each company has their own unique lenses, eg canons 100-400mm and nikons 200-400mm but each company can cover the same subjects/situations as the other. Clearly dedicated enthusiasts with clear and select interests might favour one company over the other because of specific lenses.
However the MPE is the only 1:1 to 5:1 macro "zoom" lens on the market - though as I said there are other ways to get to 5:1 and some of them are actually better (image quality wise) than the MPE

Does Nikon have an 800mm don't think they do not new anyway